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#TeamSuramar
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Suramar is really beautiful and cool but navigating it sucks ass, and its even worse in the area to get the questline to unlock CoS and Arc. Like at a certain point I just soulstone myself because I am going to die no matter what. Yeah those little baskets are there if you get caught but more often then not there's a guard with vision right next to it so wtf is the point?
You're not wrong about that part, the elites mixed in with tons of mobs that can see through your disguise kind of sucks.
But that's just it, warlocks make themselves victims due to being stuck on Affliction - sorry, but as long as your class has a good spec the class isn't busted. Every class has bad specs. Aff isn't even the worst spec in the game.
RPGCrazied
Member
Maybe my question got lost. When/how do I start being able to recruit Naga warriors?
Completely agree with this.
There's about 5 different ways you can nerf monks aoe dmg. Strike of the windlord is great aoe burst yes but with a 40sec cd I feel like its the wrong choice. The artifact abilities are not just another spell... they should feel powerful and special. Strike of the windlord in a raiding situation really isn't going to be making a massive difference. Nerf some of the other aoe and leave the artifact abilities. Or at least the ones that are great. Buff the ones that aren't.
Chie Satonaka
Member
839.
Is it me, or is it the best feeling in the world when something you actually really want is the item that ends up being Warforged?
Is it me, or is it the best feeling in the world when something you actually really want is the item that ends up being Warforged?
Goddammit Blizz
They took a bunch of things away from warlocks and gave them to other classes (mostly DH) and also made the specs even clunkier to play. It is absolutely worth complaining about.
This is too hilarious to not laugh at.
I love Suramar. I'm in tank spec 95% of the time I'm in the city just in case, though.
Did you finish the class hall research for it?
lol. Probably code that says if you already have one make it harder to get second that they got reversed.
Someone fat-fingered the minus key.lol. Probably code that says if you already have one make it harder to get second that they got reversed.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
rofl. I cant. remove this profession.
Oh neat, so I won't have to manually remove them
I mean, in the grand scheme of things it does not really take that long. It's just this really pointless hurdle where I'm like..."oh, okay, I guess I have to go do this thing." If Blizzard wanted to gate lots of content they wouldn't just rain down high ilevel gear for simple quests.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
Yeah, it's pretty sad that they gate the class campaigns like this. I've only done DK, and all the actual story shit we went out to do was awesome. But then all the lame day long missions and having to go to random dungeons and shit. It's just annoying and detracts from the experience. I have every class at 100, so I really wanna see all the story stuff, but the gating mechanisms are making me hesitant to start leveling again.
RPGCrazied
Member
I just thought that turned ashtongue into naga sometimes. I thought maybe you could recruit them along with the other 2.
first 2 withered scenarios as WW monk were complete failures as expected. low ilvl, low withered, no buff items, and melee char = I miss my hunter :3
will focus on getting like 1 chest at least each run for a bit like I did on the hunter, and also will have better gear soon (818 now!).
also just healed my first heroic, very smooth. Asked the druid to not go crazy on the pulls because my ilvl wasnt very high and he complied. fun times, Mistweaver is my favorite healing spec in ages
will focus on getting like 1 chest at least each run for a bit like I did on the hunter, and also will have better gear soon (818 now!).
also just healed my first heroic, very smooth. Asked the druid to not go crazy on the pulls because my ilvl wasnt very high and he complied. fun times, Mistweaver is my favorite healing spec in ages
mythic+?
arenas, rbgs?
find a new guild?
i mean... you have options here, and if youre not raiding anyway then what exactly are you "irrelevant" compared to
There's a class hall research project on tier 4 to turn all Ashtongue into Naga. That's the only way I know of to get them.
What talents are you running for five-mans? I've been using the statue plus the one that lets you move during soothing mist, but I miss my boy Chi-Ji. I'm also curious how well the melee talents work.
Edit: Also really liked Life Cycles when I tried it, but mana hasn't been much of an issue in heroics so I switched off of it.
jaundicejuice
Member
I love Prot Paladin. Everyone died on me in the Assault on Violet Hold, I was able to live long enough to solo the boss. Granted it was just on normal because I was just running an Order Hall quest but it still felt pretty awesome.
Flintty
Member
Your reasoning makes no sense. You're saying it's ok to take a viable spec which is fun to play AND competitive, make it poor but hey just rerolling spec? Na. I'm not making myself a victim. I'm saying it how it is; they ruined the spec (competitively only - mechanically it's pretty sound and fun to play). And to be honest, it's not like the other two specs are worth singing about.
You can't excuse poor game design with "but choices". Shit balance is shit, end of.
This too. I remember tanking on my Demo lock in the Cata beta. Everybody cried it couldn't be done but it worked. So they ripped it out because they knew full well what they were gonna do with it (Hello DHs!). Is it fair that they pillaged warlock abilities for the new class? Probably not, but it's nothing new (See DKs with Deathcoil).
statue is trash, that bird is too good man...it might be my favorite spell in the game.
also im not using life cycles because I find moving while channeling the passive heal thing way too good, it should be base in fact. Plus like you say I havent had much mana issues so far.
that thunder brew talent to have 2 charges is amazing. My favorite thing to do with that is pop 3 rejuvenation mists (or whtever its called), we druids now son! Or to cast the aoe heal on the move, or 200% on that single target heal if its hairy... man such a good spell (especially talented) thudner brew is.
Also the artifact spell is also really good, I rarely use it but when you have 12 charges, it heals for a ton, great emergency heal. I really like everything about mistweaving right now.
pls dont nerf kk blizz thanks
Lanrutcon
Member
Maybe Affliction isn't the worst spec, but by god it's in the running.
In the current burst/cleave heavy environment, you have a spec with no burst, a shitty resource dump and a ramp up time on both single target and aoe. I don't care if you're the goddamn John Wick of Warlock players...the spec's mechanics won't let you shine.
In the current burst/cleave heavy environment, you have a spec with no burst, a shitty resource dump and a ramp up time on both single target and aoe. I don't care if you're the goddamn John Wick of Warlock players...the spec's mechanics won't let you shine.
Open followers screen and your inventory. Select a follower, then use item on that follower.
The statue doesn't really bring a lot to the table compared to Chi-Ji. It's best during periods of sustained damage rather than spikey damage, and you have enough tools to deal with that as it is, so having Chi-Ji to clean up potential messes is much more valuable. As for lifecycles, it's great but considering the reality of boss encounters right now, being able to channel soothing mist while moving is a bit too valuable at the moment I think.
Orochinagis
Member
Oh boy I guess I gotta leave my clan if they keep doing their members to use facebook to sign up for the core, wtf.
In other news I am starting to get better gear than the class hall gear, should I upgrade my tirifal gear or just getting geared with world quest gear
In other news I am starting to get better gear than the class hall gear, should I upgrade my tirifal gear or just getting geared with world quest gear
You can be mad about Warlock abilities being given to another class...but at the end of the day nothing is stopping a player from rolling a Demon Hunter. Warlocks should have never had those abilities to begin with to be honest, and the design space for them as tanks was pretty limited without adding a fourth spec or something, which is kind of pointless when a new class can just be added.
Demon Hunters are wildly successful for Blizzard. In the stats they tweeted today the most used tank artifact is the DH one, and early third party census numbers show Demon Hunter as the #1 most popular class on both NA and EU. After the poor adoption Monks have seen (which are now the least played class) it's hard to not see Demon Hunter as a class design that really hit what the player base wanted.
Demon Hunters are wildly successful for Blizzard. In the stats they tweeted today the most used tank artifact is the DH one, and early third party census numbers show Demon Hunter as the #1 most popular class on both NA and EU. After the poor adoption Monks have seen (which are now the least played class) it's hard to not see Demon Hunter as a class design that really hit what the player base wanted.
Well.. they gave them game-breaking mobility with no cooldown. Honestly any class they give that too would shoot up in popularity
I mean, Monks easily had the highest tier of mobility when they came out. Better than Demon Hunter in a number of ways.
Flintty
Member
They could have had Demo as a bi-spec like Feral Druids.
I don't think 'they should never had those abilities' is a valid argument either. Those abilities fit the class; Warlocks summon demons using fel energy and get them to do their shit, and could use that energy to meta themselves into a demon to go fucking crazy. Versus Demon Hunters who are supposed to be killing demons but can turn into the very thing it's designed to destroy. Hmm.
No point me going on about it though (it is indeed a bone of contention) it'll never go back to what it was. Unless drain tank spec...
Oh and they may celebrate the uptake of DHs now but when every other person is playing them they'll be nerfed to shit, like DKs initially were. If not, gg Blizzard you made World of Demonhuntercraft.
Yep. DH being more mobile than Monks even now is arguable too.
Demon Hunters are about using the Legion's weapons against them. Fighting fire with fire.
Human Trashcan
Banned
That, and they are super, super edgy. Of course they're popular as shit!
Also that legendary bug is the stupidest goddamn thing I've ever heard of. Blizzard just shitting on everyone's dick who doesn't have a legendary yet (me)