Yeah, of course, but unless I have a ton of Maelstrom ready to go or blow cooldowns I just don't seem to keep up with others that have more consistent AoE.
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Yeah, of course, but unless I have a ton of Maelstrom ready to go or blow cooldowns I just don't seem to keep up with others that have more consistent AoE.
Mossybrew
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Finally got my main to 110. I think this is the first time that hitting the level cap hasn't been the beginning of the end for that character, I don't raid, so at endgame I'd usually do some dungeons, maybe dabble in pvp, and then move on to an alt. Now I feel like I have a ton of stuff to still do and look forward to, it's pretty great.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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If they do, then they need to cut out the first hundred levels or something. The last stat squish made leveling one of the least exciting things in the world, because the damn gear you get has barely any improvements. I got a pair or gloves in a vanilla dungeon that I didn't replace until WoD. Progression is fun, and the stat squish shat all over that. I'd really rather there not be a stat squish, especially considering all the problems that came with the last one.
Hey guys, quick question regarding Champions:
So far I only have 2, I'm level 103 and did a lot of Aszuna and just started Stormheim. Will more Champions be attained just through questing, or is there a specific chain I should be doing? I did all 3 of the Artifact quests, and following the 'warrior' line brought me to Stormheim so I'm working on that set of quests.
Loooove this expansion overall, haven't been able to play a lot but what I've played has been a blast. The companion app is also really great, fun little thing to progress on when I can't be playing the main game.
So far I only have 2, I'm level 103 and did a lot of Aszuna and just started Stormheim. Will more Champions be attained just through questing, or is there a specific chain I should be doing? I did all 3 of the Artifact quests, and following the 'warrior' line brought me to Stormheim so I'm working on that set of quests.
Loooove this expansion overall, haven't been able to play a lot but what I've played has been a blast. The companion app is also really great, fun little thing to progress on when I can't be playing the main game.
They come through your Order Hall questline. Just keep at it.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
They are acquired naturally through your class hall quests. As long as you are doing every quest given you in your class hall, and doing the table missions related to quests (They have the ! icon) you will get all your dudes.
^^^Awesome thanks!
I would just ignore them tbh. You have the leverage as the Tank, if they kick you, you get an insta queuefor the next dungeon, if they don't like how you're tanking let them quit and wait in another half hour queue before being able to play again.
I would just ignore them tbh. You have the leverage as the Tank, if they kick you, you get an insta queuefor the next dungeon, if they don't like how you're tanking let them quit and wait in another half hour queue before being able to play again.
What made the difference for me was not saving my cooldowns, but just using them as they come up. The improvement is dramatic if you can use both Crash Lightning and Stormstrike whenever they are available.
Also, in dungeons, I had been using Ancestral Swiftness instead of Hailstorm which allows you to cast Crash Lightning more often.
If you're not getting Stormstrike procs are you using Lava Lash more during AoE then you would for single target? Also the Swiftness over Hailstorm is a good idea, I'll give that a shot. Thanks!
RPGCrazied
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Lol, $10 to change your battle tag now.
jaundicejuice
Member
They need to address the leveling experience, 1-60 in particular, but Blizzard doesn't really approach WoW as a game-as-a-service, they treat it like a standard triple A game and only mete out content or quality of life improvements with major expansions. Something like Gnomes being Hunters isn't something that needs to be tied to an expansion to be added to the game. That's expansion agnostic content, it's not something like a brand new class like the Demon Hunter. If they add stuff like that in between say the content drought between HFC and Legion, it would've provided some players something to do, although Horde-only players might cry foul or favouritism.
They need to do something about Azeroth since playing through the 1-60 content is sort of something they want people to do given the profession bonuses for boosting a lvl 60. Cataclysm is now as old as Vanilla was when Cata improved the 1-60 questing experience in Azeroth. While the character models and melee animations have improved, with ranged casting animations planned, the classes have all been significantly overhauled, the world has not. I also don't understand why they don't have some junior artists back-porting modern generic world assets into zones in the base game. Unless there's some mandate to keep the floor low or it's a drawback of their system/implementation. If their world objects are all referenced and instanced it should be as simple as swapping in a new model to back-populate it. If these objects are all unique, well, then I could see why they'd be hesitant to open that can of worms.
In regards to older content all they ever seem to do is just make it so you can level through older content faster or bypass it completely and just leave the leveling content as-is for those that want to play through it. Which is inelegant but the path of least resistance.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Yeah, this was pretty shocking to me while leveling in between invasions.
Aside from Heirloom gear, my odds of finding a serious upgrade between, say, 58 to 80 were seemingly few and far between.
Cata had a little bump, but other than that, until WoD, it kind of happened again.
IIRC Blizz has already said they're at least planning on another one for the next expansion.....which is going to make the leveling process even worse with the leveling/'progression' theme.
Aside from introducing more heirlooms though (which, tbh, they've pretty much got covered at this point), I dunno what can be done without a severe revamp of the scaling process, rather than a flat 'smoosh' of items/mobs at level range 'x to y.'
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's because World Quests intentionally try to bottleneck you out of getting into random Heroics because you'll get to 825-830 avg. ilvl. really fast after you hit 810 or so.
jaundicejuice
Member
Apply the Legion level scaling to Azeroth. Then people can finish a zone without it being a detriment to their leveling experience because they no longer hit the exp cap midway through questing and dungeons queuing won't make whole swathes of zones obsolete before you get to them. Players can have a more free form leveling experience, rather than going through the same route every time and go to whatever zones they're capable of getting to. They need to tune how wildlife scales and aggros though, that's annoying in Legion.
Most zones have their own self-contained story arcs and it's not like there's some overall narrative structure pushing you through Azeroth in the 1-60 zones. It's just the Cata zones that are sort of stuck in a fixed point in time--Stone Talon Mountains, and Thousand Needles come to mind.
They can leave level gating for the expansions.
im doing normals to try and get a friend geared up, I just got outdamaged on my 844 hunter by a... 101 Arms Warrior
...lolwhut?he was doing like 280k on bosses
HIs damage scales to yours don't worry if you are a geared lvl 100 you do more dmg than a lvl 110.
Nawww, I like the current numbers.
still... are Arms Warriors quite strong atm or something? at one point on trash he had like 900k dps lol
Arms are excellent and he was probably wearing good gear from WoD. You're 'supposed' to have around 690-700 ilvl by that point so that's what the scaling expects. When you give it 720+, you get humongous numbers.
I think Arms does really good single target damage.
You're only going to get like 900k from Bladestorm/Avatar/Artifact weapon combo though...
The cleave/ buffed WW combo does a decent bit if you have a large enough group
It's whatever. Average AoE, but a little underrated when people say Arms has bad AoE. Nobody has the artifact talents to make it seem okay.
What excites me is that they've all but confirmed that they'll be applying the scaling tech to older zones in the future, hopefully during the life cycle of Legion.
This opens the door to rejigging the entire leveling experience and would be the opportune time to introduce other changes, too.
I wonder if they could cut the XP required to level 1-100 in half (or more!), and package that experience in a series of 'stories' (like, each expansion basically), which you could select from at the outset, Mega-Man-style (or I guess, in the same vein as Artifacts or choosing Legion zone order). This could even be framed as you being a new adventurer hearing about the stories in the Caverns of Time before setting out into the new Legion world at 100, which is why you could also do them out of order with the game scaling to the order you pick.
Here's what I'm thinking this could look like:
Level 1-10 (or 1-15 or 1-20): Relatively the same. The intro to your class in Azeroth/Pandaria, and for a brand new player, to the game. Then, you get the option to do the rest of the levelling (from 11-100) by selecting from the 'stories' below.
Level 11-100: Expansion stories, selectable in any order you wish with scaling tech implemented:
- 5-7 zones from the 1-60 experience in Cata, maybe the most Deathwing-focused ones?
- Burning Crusade
- Wrath of the Lich King-
- Cataclysm (the newer 80-85 zones in Azeroth/Kalimdor)
- Pandaria
- Draenor
The idea would be that you only need to maybe do...like, 2 of these 'stories' in their entirety, but that would take you all the way to 100. It would allow each character to have a very different experience on the way to 100, but would also allow people to quest in any zone they want basically, right through to completion. Some of the best stuff is at the end of each zone, but people never see it anymore because they out-level zones so quickly.
What do you guys think?
I know it's a sort of half-baked idea, but I hope it's a possibility with scaling tech.
This opens the door to rejigging the entire leveling experience and would be the opportune time to introduce other changes, too.
I wonder if they could cut the XP required to level 1-100 in half (or more!), and package that experience in a series of 'stories' (like, each expansion basically), which you could select from at the outset, Mega-Man-style (or I guess, in the same vein as Artifacts or choosing Legion zone order). This could even be framed as you being a new adventurer hearing about the stories in the Caverns of Time before setting out into the new Legion world at 100, which is why you could also do them out of order with the game scaling to the order you pick.
Here's what I'm thinking this could look like:
Level 1-10 (or 1-15 or 1-20): Relatively the same. The intro to your class in Azeroth/Pandaria, and for a brand new player, to the game. Then, you get the option to do the rest of the levelling (from 11-100) by selecting from the 'stories' below.
Level 11-100: Expansion stories, selectable in any order you wish with scaling tech implemented:
- 5-7 zones from the 1-60 experience in Cata, maybe the most Deathwing-focused ones?
- Burning Crusade
- Wrath of the Lich King-
- Cataclysm (the newer 80-85 zones in Azeroth/Kalimdor)
- Pandaria
- Draenor
The idea would be that you only need to maybe do...like, 2 of these 'stories' in their entirety, but that would take you all the way to 100. It would allow each character to have a very different experience on the way to 100, but would also allow people to quest in any zone they want basically, right through to completion. Some of the best stuff is at the end of each zone, but people never see it anymore because they out-level zones so quickly.
What do you guys think?
I know it's a sort of half-baked idea, but I hope it's a possibility with scaling tech.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Finished the Mage Order questline .
It is... pretty average? The final battle against
is really disappointing.
It is... pretty average? The final battle against
Kathranatir
Novel Mike
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Has anyone gotten bored already of the expansion? I played it for a week non stop got myself geared up to at least start raiding once it came out but since then I have other things I could be doing on my character they just don't feel like they are worth doing. IDK hopefully raids will help but I hate the idea I have to do a mythic dungeon for a class hall quest when I've already done that dungeon twice and can't get gear from it and people are still struggling with mythics somewhat >.> IDK I just don't have the drive I was expecting to have with the new expansion out.
I'd love it, *if* it is optional. It would be great to choose any zone to level in, because I never want to do Outland again. But if I just want to go back and blow through stuff for achievements or xmogs, the original level scale should still be available. Which seems like an easy enough toggle to implement.
Lanrutcon
Member
Icy Veins is considered the premier source.
Noxxic is trash and has historically fucked up more than once.
Lanrutcon
Member
In terms of?
People are struggling in mythics? My only rough mythic was first week when I was 828 and the only ranged so I get hit by every boss mechanic. Mythics lately are easier than heroics cause the tank won't chain pull 50 mobs that all fear. It's pretty regular that I'm the only ranged as a healer though, almost all groups are 3 melee dps.
The other was askmrrobot. I've been leaning towards Icy Veins because they make it point to mention who wrote the guide but I know no one is infallible.
RPGCrazied
Member
Everyone show your DH, you know you have one! Man, I'm still playing him. Haven't touched any of my other 100's other than getting their artifact. Talk about to much to do. lol
"Off to Zerkhanar then to join my loved ones and friends!"
"...to kill them of course for harming your dragon. Bunch of mana addict degenerates the lot of them OH SHIT SON THERES MANA THERE BRB"
love this quest
edit: I just noticed they actually scratch themselves and twitch and shit, they really are crackheads
I was totally doubting the dude, but by the end of the quest I felt bad for him.
Hit 110 on my paladin and now I have too much shit to do between tradeskill quests, zones, 110 stuff etc etc.
RPGCrazied
Member
Also, anyone know the ilevel requirement for the emerald nightmare LFR coming up? I'm 824 right now.
It hasn't been proof-read ("The other legendary items available to Protection Paladins cannot compete...). It doesn't give different stat builds for offensive/balanced/defensive (like DK does), and I'm not even sure the stat priority is right (then again, no-one is). The Legendary bracers on the BiS list are a major omission given the stats & effect. Doesn't value main-stat food.
Lanrutcon
Member
Ah, ok. Noted.
Friendly reminder that the stack ranks are not helpful and you should not consider them at all really.
Avoid crit if you can, haste is valuable until you start energy capping, then go for mastery, but vers is good too.
825 I think.
jaundicejuice
Member
Dragon Quest VII just came out, Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse is about to come out and I haven't even hit 110 on one toon in Legion yet. Guess I'm set for the next year or so in terms of gaming and probably not going to be running any alts.
RPGCrazied
Member
Lol, one point. That should be easy enough I guess.