jaundicejuice
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So the Nightfallen and Withered are basically what the Blood Elves almost became, or were? Magical meth heads.
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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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Yup, the Wretched, in the BE's case.
With the Sunwell, Blood Elves can degenerate into the Wretched, which are different in the way that they eat mana and it doesn't sustain them unlike the Nightwell's Ancient Mana can. So they're continuously ravenous until they die.
Thankfully, the Blood Elves don't have to worry about that any more, because their Sunwell is powered by a Naaru's energy - giving them unlimited access to the Light to sustain them that magic never could.
Basically Blood Elves are powered by the Light now.
A Serious Man
Member
I've not had to worry about that at all, myself. I'm at like 29k resources right now and still have the final two tiers to go.
SRTtoZ
Member
Got so much done today. Got my Fox mount, which is so adorable, and joined a group of chinese players (I play on Illidan) for Court of Stars and the Arcway mythics and got both quests done and some gear! Damn some of those seem a bit harder than the other mythics maybe minus HoV.
Orochinagis
Member
Holy cow the Monks companions are pretty recognizable
Taran zhu
Monkey King
Lili
Shen
Michael Jordan
While my Mage have
Old woman
Blu dragon dude who dont remembers you
.....more dudes and a golem
In the BEs starting zone can see BEs without the sunwell energy becoming withered you even have to kill some and you can see some beggers for mana.
In this expansion are Highborne (Night elves) becoming withered because they lost their lunar energy and became withered
Taran zhu
Monkey King
Lili
Shen
Michael Jordan
While my Mage have
Old woman
Blu dragon dude who dont remembers you
.....more dudes and a golem
In the BEs starting zone can see BEs without the sunwell energy becoming withered you even have to kill some and you can see some beggers for mana.
In this expansion are Highborne (Night elves) becoming withered because they lost their lunar energy and became withered
To be fair, Kalec has been around a while (and was a boss, of sorts, in Sunwell) and Millhouse is...well, Millhouse. We have our own recognizable ones.
That said, they're a bit plain, yeah.
Human Trashcan
Banned
So satisfying
Looks awesome, but you're still playing Ret.
Also, I got my Shadowmourne quest past the hard part (Blood Infusion) this week, so in a few weeks I will also have that tabard!
Jokes on them, arms is broken as shit single target.
Actually managed to beat Leystalker Dro as an Enhancement Shaman today. I realized what I had been doing wrong all along, and it wasn't actually the way I was fighting the boss. It was the way I was using my Withered early to open treasure chests instead of using them to power through all the enemies. This time, what I did was open all of the doors I could and clear the way.
When Dro engaged, I just set my ~25-27 minions to berserk mode, blew all my DPS cooldowns and did as much damage as I could before he started doing heavy damage to me. Then I used Frostbrand and Ghost Wolf to buy some distance, but not too much since your zombies freak out if they don't see you.. plus the boss will teleport to you and gank you. Then I re-engaged after healing up, but he was dead within a couple more seconds. Didn't even need to use the stun.
After that, I got up to 400 points for max rep, killed Phyx and then opened treasure chests. Afterwards I pulled Volatile Wraithlord but I also had elite spiders at the same time and died to the cumulative damage.
All in all, pretty encouraging run. It was the first time I went through it and didn't feel like rerolling a tank.
When Dro engaged, I just set my ~25-27 minions to berserk mode, blew all my DPS cooldowns and did as much damage as I could before he started doing heavy damage to me. Then I used Frostbrand and Ghost Wolf to buy some distance, but not too much since your zombies freak out if they don't see you.. plus the boss will teleport to you and gank you. Then I re-engaged after healing up, but he was dead within a couple more seconds. Didn't even need to use the stun.
After that, I got up to 400 points for max rep, killed Phyx and then opened treasure chests. Afterwards I pulled Volatile Wraithlord but I also had elite spiders at the same time and died to the cumulative damage.
All in all, pretty encouraging run. It was the first time I went through it and didn't feel like rerolling a tank.
Dro is complete nightmare even as a tank. As DK I have a fair bit of CC, but he uses his charge so often there's not much I can do. Plus he seems immune to death grip. As you say the best defence seems to be just burning him down as fast as possible. Still had probably my best withered training today. Three large chests, one medium, and 425+ score. Feels good man!
While we're on the subject of Dro... Any reason to bother with Withered Army Training other than rep? Can't find any related achievements, and after having server issues the last two times, I'm kinda hesitant to go back.
Plus I'm 10/21k anyway, so who cares I'll be exalted soon either way.
Never found myself under 10k, and that's not doing the WQs (except Warden's/Emissary ones), spending all I can on follower upgrades, and always recruiting. Do get quite a lot in dungeons, though.
Only have the last Order Hall upgrade left to pay for.
Plus I'm 10/21k anyway, so who cares I'll be exalted soon either way.
Never found myself under 10k, and that's not doing the WQs (except Warden's/Emissary ones), spending all I can on follower upgrades, and always recruiting. Do get quite a lot in dungeons, though.
Only have the last Order Hall upgrade left to pay for.
Star Falcon
Member
You can collect a few bits for Shal'Aran there which are handy (i found a pop-up bank last night).
I did ease off the grinding once i got attuned though..no rush for any of those other things.
I did ease off the grinding once i got attuned though..no rush for any of those other things.
piratethingy
Self professed bad raider
1500 rep to go
sucks not having any way to reliably push this forward besides waiting
sucks not having any way to reliably push this forward besides waiting
Me too but I still don't find anything rewarding about attaining order resources, it just feels like a job. Maybe something like bonus rolls would help because it's just so tedious feeling right now. Order Halls and managing missions are far and away my least favorite part of this expansion. Love most other things but I disliked that in Draenor and I dislike it here.
welp you cant steal my 850 neck and shoulders from me now Blizz! :3
just got the final chest in the withered scenario on the hunter, next run is basically just...for score I guess? mweh
Human Trashcan
Banned
Got the hidden appearance of Truthguard out of withered training today, pretty nice. Wanna unlock the other colors though because I kinda hate that default purple but it's gonna take a while.
Also it's easy as shit now. I have all the special units and buffs for the army, if you go in with 20 you can burn Leystalker Dro down before he does a third rush attack. It's not a thing at all.
Also it's easy as shit now. I have all the special units and buffs for the army, if you go in with 20 you can burn Leystalker Dro down before he does a third rush attack. It's not a thing at all.
Lanrutcon
Member
Don't forget Moonfire to tap stragglers?
Lanrutcon
Member
Oh, well...just drop Death and Decay and it'll feel better
Hah, I used to play XIV so I'm used to something like tomahawk / shield lob.
complete the achievement leyling bling and get the improved mana scavenging perks from merethil (or w/e it's c alled) for +75 rep each time you activate a leyline or get an improvement to the perk
warden quest to kill nightborne targets in suramar also give nightfallen rep
if you have a kirin tor emissary questline up you can get a +750 nightfallen rep item from it
Teletraan1
Banned
This has always been my issue with blizzard "balance". They have always done this kind of thing. Huge 25-50% nerfs/buffs on something that just needed a small tweak. I doubt they will ever learn as well.
RoninChaos
Member
Anyone fucking with Alts yet? Got my DK raid ready and I'm feeling the itch to try someone new.
"It's too early to tweak numbers, also we're tweaking the numbers for tank specs."
Lanrutcon
Member
Meanwhile, my lock just almost got kicked from a heroic repeatedly because the Healer didn't like my dps. 839 lock. Heroic. Apparently there was too much of a gap between myself, the Unholy dk and the DH.
You don't understand though. We need to wait for beta to end before they can collect data on how classes perform.
NumberThree
Member
Pff you get to start combat with three soul shards, what more do you want?!
Lanrutcon
Member
Have you seen what a Mythic geared DH does to a group of Heroic enemies?
Oh, well neither have I. I blinked.
I did a bit, but I'm too scared to do anything serious incase this suggested Bad Luck Protection is account wide. I do the herb/skinning WQs, but nothing else.
just had my proper decent withered scenario on the monk. As windwalker. So some tips for those still struggling.
My gear is about ilvl 830, and I went in with 15 withered (1300 mana).I had no upgrades yet because the only chest I go last time was the bank lol.
Stared off clearing the initial are and ignoring the first boss in the locked room. Carefully killed the patroling mana elemental in the circular area and the centaur ladies whatever they are, went down and cleared that area with the spiders which is easy. There were no withered to recruit down there this time unfortunately, and no chest because thats where the bank chest is.
Back up, cleared another mana elemental from one side so I could proceed, went down always dreading Dio would show up but he didnt, killed more spiders, recruited more withered along the way, got a big (10 withered) chest because I was afraid Dio would pop soon and I already had around 18 or so withered and I figured with the remaining 8 I could get some score and maybe a medium chest.
Then I got to the downstairs spider circular room and as I was clearing to get more withered, Dio pops. This is where I lucked out because as he killed me, that buff you get from Thalysra that makes an explosion when you are about to die procced and killed Dio lol. It must have taken like 2 thirds of his life.
So I was down to 1 withered. I explored some more, carefully pulled spiders and shit, gathered a few more withered but all the doors were locked because I didnt have 10 withered to open them. Explored some more and got the room you open with the dio key, got 3 withered in there, went around opening all the doors (but not fighting the bosses), just so I could see if I could carefully get some more withered in those rooms without pulling bosses. And I did.
Long story short, after some mroe careful pulls and exploring, I managed to get 2 big chests and 2 medium ones from that run, last medium was after killing the first spider boss (in the long room, not the one at the end).
I got VERY lucky with Dio, and he is deffinately a problem, but if you can deal with him, the rest is just a matter of being careful and ignoring bosses until later runs when you have more upgrades and better gear.
My score was about 459 I think too which is very decent. So yeah, melee and not even tank specced. Hopefully peeps dont see this as a brag (especially when I got so lucky with Dio lol) just to hopefully show that its not impossible at all with some patience. It took me like 45mins tbh I was so careful walking around and pulling heh.
(My hunter earlier of course obliterated the place lol)
My gear is about ilvl 830, and I went in with 15 withered (1300 mana).I had no upgrades yet because the only chest I go last time was the bank lol.
Stared off clearing the initial are and ignoring the first boss in the locked room. Carefully killed the patroling mana elemental in the circular area and the centaur ladies whatever they are, went down and cleared that area with the spiders which is easy. There were no withered to recruit down there this time unfortunately, and no chest because thats where the bank chest is.
Back up, cleared another mana elemental from one side so I could proceed, went down always dreading Dio would show up but he didnt, killed more spiders, recruited more withered along the way, got a big (10 withered) chest because I was afraid Dio would pop soon and I already had around 18 or so withered and I figured with the remaining 8 I could get some score and maybe a medium chest.
Then I got to the downstairs spider circular room and as I was clearing to get more withered, Dio pops. This is where I lucked out because as he killed me, that buff you get from Thalysra that makes an explosion when you are about to die procced and killed Dio lol. It must have taken like 2 thirds of his life.
So I was down to 1 withered. I explored some more, carefully pulled spiders and shit, gathered a few more withered but all the doors were locked because I didnt have 10 withered to open them. Explored some more and got the room you open with the dio key, got 3 withered in there, went around opening all the doors (but not fighting the bosses), just so I could see if I could carefully get some more withered in those rooms without pulling bosses. And I did.
Long story short, after some mroe careful pulls and exploring, I managed to get 2 big chests and 2 medium ones from that run, last medium was after killing the first spider boss (in the long room, not the one at the end).
I got VERY lucky with Dio, and he is deffinately a problem, but if you can deal with him, the rest is just a matter of being careful and ignoring bosses until later runs when you have more upgrades and better gear.
My score was about 459 I think too which is very decent. So yeah, melee and not even tank specced. Hopefully peeps dont see this as a brag (especially when I got so lucky with Dio lol) just to hopefully show that its not impossible at all with some patience. It took me like 45mins tbh I was so careful walking around and pulling heh.
(My hunter earlier of course obliterated the place lol)
wat
Start swimming!
Oh, for fuck's sake. I can't log into my account the old fashioned way via the game client. It just gives me "We couldn't log you in with what you just entered. Please try again.". I can only log in using the battle.net launcher
Thing is, I'm now trying to start WoW via Steam in order to enable the Steam Controller. And AFAIK, this has to be done specifically with the WoW executable and not the launcher.
Thing is, I'm now trying to start WoW via Steam in order to enable the Steam Controller. And AFAIK, this has to be done specifically with the WoW executable and not the launcher.
So I unsubscribed earlier.
If I wanted to play an alt at 110 I'd have to do the grind to unlock the two dungeons, and then constantly play catch up on artifact power which.. kind of sucks tbh.
My original plan was to level my priest and then the warlock which has been my main since the end of Wrath, but that's not really a plan if all I ever want to do is five man content.
The state of warlocks and a bunch of other classes/specs at the moment doesn't fill me with the greatest confidence, especially since ignoring six months of feedback from beta is apparently the game plan for shoving Legion out the door.
I dunno, I'm sure someone will probably just go "lol stop complaining" but that's my feeling on WoW at the moment.
If I wanted to play an alt at 110 I'd have to do the grind to unlock the two dungeons, and then constantly play catch up on artifact power which.. kind of sucks tbh.
My original plan was to level my priest and then the warlock which has been my main since the end of Wrath, but that's not really a plan if all I ever want to do is five man content.
The state of warlocks and a bunch of other classes/specs at the moment doesn't fill me with the greatest confidence, especially since ignoring six months of feedback from beta is apparently the game plan for shoving Legion out the door.
I dunno, I'm sure someone will probably just go "lol stop complaining" but that's my feeling on WoW at the moment.
Human Trashcan
Banned
I just can't even with this across the board 10% nerf to tank damage, including (presumably) single-target abilities. Not like they're buffing other shitty specs to compensate for the loss of damage in the meanwhile, it's just so goddamn stupid. One of the biggest games in the world and apparently it's being (not) balanced by complete idiots.
I feel you Rizzi, I can guarantee you I am never ever going to do Rumor Has It again.
I feel you Rizzi, I can guarantee you I am never ever going to do Rumor Has It again.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Its just 10% across the board? i had heard it was an effect in Broken Isles that for every mob that was targeting a tank the enemies did 10% more damage while doing 10% less damage to them.
Yea, I typically love alts (have at least 1 of every class at 100), but this expansion is really making it hard to want to play them. If I started an alt, I would have to do the exact same quests in the exact same zones to level, because blizzard made leveling any way besides questing non-viable (grinding, dungeons, finding treasures), and I need rep with the factions to unlock world quests. I would then have to go back to suramar and do the exact same story line again and do the exact same slow rep grind to unlock the dungeons. And all this just to be at super low artifact power and always playing catch up. Honestly, keeping my off-specs relevant seems tough enough, alts just seem non-viable.
I think allowing artifact knowledge to be researched at 100 or at least 102 would help this a lot. Be able to at least stay somewhat current, and you need resources to do it so its not like you could do it without playing the character at all.