it's doubly worse if you're a pet class
your pet having pathing issues will double your chances for the mob to randomly start evading
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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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it's doubly worse if you're a pet class
your pet having pathing issues will double your chances for the mob to randomly start evading
Damn! We got 3/7 on Normal in 2.5 hours and I felt pretty good about it. A good portion of our guild is undergeared though, I was top of the DPS charts and I'm not a good player.
Damn, that is insane. I've always played on low pop servers so its never been an issue but that would drive me mad.
Il'gnyoth is such a jerk. We clear the first cycle really easily, but in the second cycle is seems like he spawns adds much faster. Is that true? I thought it would just be a rinse and repeat, but everything falls apart once the two Mind's Eye-casting tentacles spawn and then 2 Corruptor Tentacles quickly follow.
BolognaOni
Member
All the tanks rage quit from the nerfs. Or not since healer queues are still short.
It may have something to do with the artifact system and some of the folks who would normally tank/heal dungeons as alt specs being more focused on their DPS spec to get up to raiding speed. Just conjecture though.
jaundicejuice
Member
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Legion is actually the buggiest expansion I've played, but the amount of actual content and things to do seems a lot higher so I'm okay with it. They should really fix the tooltips though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
We're still on Normal because about ~25% of the group literally didn't gear at all and almost nobody actually knew the fights beyond a minimal level.
No Shamans definitely get dazed. But if you're playing Enhancement, you can kill most mobs in two hits anyway.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Our Hunters were doing the most DPS by quite a bit, followed by me and a warrior (Outlaw and Arms) and our equally geared (and last I remember, decently skilled) Ret Pally was just atrocious.
I can technically do more than everyone, but that only happens when I roll a 6 with Roll the Bones.
I can technically do more than everyone, but that only happens when I roll a 6 with Roll the Bones.
Blood DK doing 40% less damage after the '10%' nerf here. Considering in most random heroics as a tank I typically ended up doing 35-45% of the group total damage, that makes me a hell of a lot less likely to want to run heroics. I'd rather wait 20 minutes as Unholy and finish the dungeon way faster because at least we'll have one guy doing damage.
RoninChaos
Member
Fuck, it's that bad?!
Yeah, us too. 3 hunters in a 14-person group and we were all consistently in the top 5. Two BM and one MM.
Lanrutcon
Member
The global logs for EN show Hunters and Demon Hunters kick the shit out of other specs when they can keep cleaving.
Yeah, that and constantly being stuck in combat. And it's not just a broken isles thing, it was happening during 7.0; they changed something for the worse. The absolute worst is bodyguards that taunt though, they get stuck, taunt a mob, mob gets stuck, and it's just an inescapable nightmare.
There was someone in here talking about 2 hour queues and how he had barely been able to play at all in over a week, he contacted blizzard about a free transfer and they basically said they didn't care, so he closed his account.
While it is a bit silly since Normal loot would only be marginally better in most cases, it's not like it's hard to have gotten to 840 already.
Itll be 850 w/ Xavius achieve next week.
With LFR, you can at least see all the raids as a super casual player. I did it to finish out Blackrock Foundry/Hellfire in WoD since I had quit shortly after Foundry opened.
piratethingy
Self professed bad raider
if i can easily fill a group of random people with those i know have played the game slightly more and have more of a statistical cushion for bad play, and i can do that at absolutely no cost to me, i will.
Pretty good. You can get Mythic raid quality loot from Mythic+ dungeons, which are the new Challenge Modes (think Greater Rifts from Diablo 3).
Only thing you'd really be missing out on is Mythic-level raid sets.
jaundicejuice
Member
There's a lot to do in the end-game in Legion, while there is an end-game zone, Suramar, the end-game content is spread across all questing zones with the World Quest system. The end-game basically takes place in all zones. With world quests, every day you can complete 4 world quests for 3 faction and get a reward, although completing individual world quests always nets an individual, smaller reward. There's also profession questing, which is fairly involved and an order hall campaign to invest yourself in outside of pvp and raiding.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
first EN boss was easy. 2nd time I beat the first boss of a raid on a pug on the first day in 1 try (other being Kargath in HM but this took longer)
my guild got all the way to xavius before calling it a day
my guild got all the way to xavius before calling it a day
840 requirement is fine? Pugs aren't as good as coordinated groups, and getting 840 is a joke.
We're 5 tries 5 kills so far (on normal >.>).
more just relating to what cdyhybrid already said.. Normal is a minimal upgrade from 840, or even no upgrade in specific cases presuming you already have a number of 850 pieces. screams to the group creator looking for more of a carry......
Yeah, that's pugging though
If you don't want to carry people you need to make your own group.
Lanrutcon
Member
asmongold took a pug of viewers through N EN for a 100% clear in one night
no problem
enjoy not getting an ez mode pass through all the group world content
no problem
enjoy not getting an ez mode pass through all the group world content
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So, when is the raid unlocking?
Unlocked today
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Ah cool, wanna watch some streams then. I am out of my raiding days tbh.
Can anyone help me out here?
Its been a while since last I played and I dont really understand how to level up a crafting profession from 0 to 800 (Jewelcrafting in my case).
It seems like I can craft a lot of Legion items at level 1, but they seem really expensive to make. Is there some catchup mechanic to get me up to a reasonable level, or should I just start crafting tons of copper goods?
Its been a while since last I played and I dont really understand how to level up a crafting profession from 0 to 800 (Jewelcrafting in my case).
It seems like I can craft a lot of Legion items at level 1, but they seem really expensive to make. Is there some catchup mechanic to get me up to a reasonable level, or should I just start crafting tons of copper goods?
Hah, yeah right. That 10% damage nerf adding a few seconds to a world quest kill will really hurt, especially when there's only four I need to do a day.
Make WoD stuff. Go to Ashran, and buy the JC recipe book for 100g.
exactly, so it's a non-issue
Tank DPS could get pretty high in trivial dungeons where you could AOE down multiple packs at once. Still didn't touch what a real DPS class could do. I mean last night I was doing 330k as Unholy during heroic trash and I barely know what I'm doing (hell I didn't even know about the death and decay scourge strike interaction for way too long). It just happens that for a couple weeks, easy Mythics were 'endgame' so there was a lot of fixation on how much damage tanks were doing. But it's less relevant now that we're into raids where tank DPS is meaningless and mythic+ which presumably will involve CC and not endless cleave.
But hey I guess these 70k heroes in random heroics will be happier even though their dungeons now take way longer.
I mean whatever nerfs happen, although such huge massive sweeping nerfs are rare. It's the fact that they said 10% and it was actually much much worse is what's messed up.
Yeah, cap is raised across the board. I think you can get a bonus proc all the way up to mythic ilvl.
Fragamemnon
Member
You can titanforge into really high values, so it's usually worthwhile to do gear quests now.
Blood DK can kill ten mobs at a time without breaking a sweat. The only time I've felt the damage nerf is when I'm whittling away at a ! quest mob or a silver, and that sucked before the nerf anyway. Otherwise D&D/HS/blood boil do great DPS(for a tank) on giant piles of mobs.
Prot warrior doesn't have great area damage but you have to give something up for how stupid easy ignore pain/shield block is to use vs. the AM/recovery mechanics of almost every other tank spec. You can cheat some area damage talents probably if dungeon/world quest deeps are an issue.
Lanrutcon
Member
I feel a nerf was obviously necessary to maintain the balance, but I'll agree that the a huge massive sweeping nerf indicates Blizzard were on vacation during Beta and are now scrambling.
Orochinagis
Member
Should Invest my coins on the world boss for better gear or try dying on dungeons for better gear