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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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I'm honestly confused, haha. What does holy nova do that mind sear doesn't in withered training? You can't heal withered, afaik, and the DPS on holy nova couldn't possibly outpace Sear, could it?
And in terms of interrupts, what does Holy have again, chastise? Isn't that on a long cooldown? You get mind bomb and Silence on Shadow.
Also I was generally talking about WQs and not just withered training.
Only a few classes get that
DKs are in great place right now. All three specs are very fun to play, and having played DK since WotLK unholy gameplay is the best it has ever been. And after these frost buffs it too should be able to even do competetive dps!
Hmm ok so how do I get back? I hope I don't actually have to fly to Light's Hope Chapel?
I assume there's a portal somewhere in Dalaran. The other classes I've played that don't have a teleport have one.
Most classes don't. I don't play my Paladin but I'd bet not. Monk, Druid and DK all kind of had a teleport before.
I think the Paladin one is near the Priest one... at least for Horde. I think the Paladin one is in the room behind the city portal room for Alliance.
Portal in Dalaran near where the PVP vendors used to be
That's fairly unique to Monk's because their class hall is a wandering turtle. You have to go to Dalaran to port to your class hall, so it's not really a big issue.
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Any tips would be appreciated for some scrub normal running friends. We're having trouble on Il'gynoth. We're not have any trouble through the very first phase, downtime between adds, and phase 2 we get it to around 35-40%. However that 2nd "Phase 1" just destroys us. Oozes, corruptors, and very little dps getting put on the Horror. I feel like something is being overlooked. Just curious if there's some strategy we could try out. We are a little melee heavy if that makes a difference.
Yeah, was hoping for an AE buff for Enhancement. While the bug fix may end up being neutral on single target bosses, I'm a bit concerned about how it will impact trash damage since were pretty reliant on DW to prop us up there.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
Got back into WoW after not playing for 6 years. Shadow Priest main.
Honestly thinking about canceling my sub after these changes. I don't have any alts so to level another class to 110 and having zero artifact knowledge puts me so far behind it's pointless. Even future changes are probably too far in the future or won't be enough
Honestly thinking about canceling my sub after these changes. I don't have any alts so to level another class to 110 and having zero artifact knowledge puts me so far behind it's pointless. Even future changes are probably too far in the future or won't be enough
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
i'm not an amazing player so it feels gud to get to ursoc and down him tonight with my guild
Rain of Fire cast time getting removed is a great boost to Destruction's otherwise-nonexistent burst AoE.
Channel Demonfire getting buffed makes me groan, though. Not that buffs are bad things... but this will put it substantially over Soul Conduit on single-target DPS, and dang do I hate casting Channel Demonfire. Maybe I'll get used to it.
Channel Demonfire getting buffed makes me groan, though. Not that buffs are bad things... but this will put it substantially over Soul Conduit on single-target DPS, and dang do I hate casting Channel Demonfire. Maybe I'll get used to it.
I use it for pulls where lots of adds are physically attacking since it's just a flat reduction, and also to boost the damage of my Shield Slams.
But I don't NEED it. Aggro is a non-issue in the game today, and with the rage gen nerf Ignore Pain is just going to be a smarter use of it in most pulls. I don't anticipate having nearly as much uptime on Shield Block anymore, but we'll see.
you can level as resto
Most of your loot will be Agi or Int depending on your current spec regardless... only real worries are trinkets and relics. Enhancement is your best bet for leveling quickly, I don't think your loot choice will really give you much either way while leveling.
It occurred to me that some Blizzard employees are probably getting harassed (and maybe even death threats) on social media right now because of these changes. So I checked Twitter for some of them, and sure enough.
Just so embarrassed to be a part of these sorts of communities.
Just so embarrassed to be a part of these sorts of communities.
I'm in the same place mate. Good luck!
It'd be pretty awesome if they could figure out their battle.net account from their twitter account and just lock it.
None of the specs are too bad to play, it didn't take me long to get the hang of it after not having touched mine since Cataclysm. The Icy-Veins guides are really helpful too.
jaundicejuice
Member
Yeah, it's called the Dalaran Hearthstone. Then go to your faction hub in Dalaran and use the portal there.
So I finally got a legendary on my Guardian Druid!.. And its the one that increases damage by 30% on mobs over 90% HP... Oh well an 895 piece is an 895 piece, though as a tank it would be nice if my legendary had even a tiny fraction of defensive benefit. Guess it will be cool on stuff like Odyn.
Nothing new, unfortunately.
NormalFish
Banned
Ele Shamans are not among them. Clearly of a higher order of WoW player.
Well, I never liked the gated DPS form so I slowly switched to holy. As for why is holy better, I think it's the whole spam holy nova and can use the big heal to top yourself off at an instant.
Ele Shaman gave up hope a long time ago
Dog Problems
Banned
It really is disgusting.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
I don't understand how Blizzard can be so fucking awful at balancing. They've been doing this shit for a decade, and they still don't know how to not nerf the shit out of classes. There's rarely simple nerfs. Class is doing well? Crush it, except for that spec or two. There's zero consistency and zero logic. This constant ping pong of nerfs is really starting to erode my will to play. I just switched to Arms a few days ago from Fury and then boom.
They can't do this shit when we have to invest so much into artifacts and yet here we are
They can't do this shit when we have to invest so much into artifacts and yet here we are
~3-4% overall damage buff. Hahahahahhaha.
And this is after patch notes that were 95% buffs to various specs.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Flyhacking gatherers.
It's like I'm back in Wrath, holy shit.
It's like I'm back in Wrath, holy shit.
So I have a question (that I don't think anyone could possibly know the answer to). The order hall weekly gear chest is based on the highest mythic+ you've completed that week. But how is it calculated? Is it just based on the highest keystone that you used and completed? Or based on your highest upgraded -1? For example, if you did HoV+2 and your stone upgraded to +5, would your chest count as +2 or +4? I hope it is the latter, as otherwise it kind of leads to odd situations. For example, we had time to do ~3 runs this week (I have a wedding to go to tomorrow and sunday), so we did 3 different +2 keystones, so that we could get 3 chests from each and max possible loot. Does that mean we get a worse order hall chest, and that we would've been better off going slightly slower on one run, upgrading it to +3, then doing a fast +3 run with 2 chests? Just a little confused as to how the system counts a dungeon done quickly in terms of the order hall chest. I'm pretty sure we're gonna end up with max +2 loot from it, which kind of sucks, as none of us really want to try +5s just yet, but we can definitely do +2 (because of no affixes at +2) fast enough to go straight to +5.
It would count as +4. Beating the timer fast enough to get multiple upgrades treats it as if you actually completed the other runs as well, that is why you got the extra chest at the end of the run, thats the loot you would have gotten if you did the +3 mythic.
I'll go ahead and throw it here then, Rindh-Bonechewer or scy#1745 for NA Horde. See if we can get together at least some Mythic / Mythic+ things this week and try and get a more stable setup for the weeks to come.
Edit: And this applies to anyone else NA Horde side just looking for someone to add.
So I'm having a strange issue on my desktop. First time really playing on it tonight and I'm getting CRAZY hangs when I'm going to new areas. Once it's hung for ~15 seconds it will be fine, just really strange to see it do that when everything else is fine.
I'm running CHKDSK and Defragging to be sure the disk isn't dying since I do see usage spike to 100% when I tab out to try and diagnose the hangs.
I'm running CHKDSK and Defragging to be sure the disk isn't dying since I do see usage spike to 100% when I tab out to try and diagnose the hangs.
I'm back to WoW after not playing since Cata and after not really playing since WotLK (I didn't even hit level cap in Cata - only played ~2 weeks).
It's amazing how much better Blizzard seems to understand the importance of re-onboarding lapsed players like me. When I came back before I didn't know where I was, my skills were COMPLETELY different (Warlock), my bags were full of trash, I had 4 skill bars full of confusing icons, and I had reset skill trees to deal with. It took literally hours to get back on track.
But with Legion little stuff like clearing my bags and emailing me the loot, resetting my skill bars, and clearing my quest log really make a big difference. It's a little "presumptuous" to dump all the quests a Toon had and whatnot, but it's a safe presumption to make when someone hasn't logged on in years - just start them fresh and throw them directly into Legion. It's the right call for Blizz to make and I can't even imagine the complexity of the task from Blizzard's perspective.
It doesn't hurt that we're back in Dalaran in Lich King is the only era I played hardcore enough to Raid, etc.
Still, even with all that hand-holding to get my main into Legion, I've opted to roll a new character instead. I figured I haven't seen the redesigned Vanilla zones, half the new Cata zones, or any of the new MoP/Draenor zones. So I'm kinda chilling out questing with a level 58 Priest named Book (I squatted on the name 7 years ago). Questing as Disc and running each 5-man Dungeon once as Holy.
It's a good time.
It's amazing how much better Blizzard seems to understand the importance of re-onboarding lapsed players like me. When I came back before I didn't know where I was, my skills were COMPLETELY different (Warlock), my bags were full of trash, I had 4 skill bars full of confusing icons, and I had reset skill trees to deal with. It took literally hours to get back on track.
But with Legion little stuff like clearing my bags and emailing me the loot, resetting my skill bars, and clearing my quest log really make a big difference. It's a little "presumptuous" to dump all the quests a Toon had and whatnot, but it's a safe presumption to make when someone hasn't logged on in years - just start them fresh and throw them directly into Legion. It's the right call for Blizz to make and I can't even imagine the complexity of the task from Blizzard's perspective.
It doesn't hurt that we're back in Dalaran in Lich King is the only era I played hardcore enough to Raid, etc.
Still, even with all that hand-holding to get my main into Legion, I've opted to roll a new character instead. I figured I haven't seen the redesigned Vanilla zones, half the new Cata zones, or any of the new MoP/Draenor zones. So I'm kinda chilling out questing with a level 58 Priest named Book (I squatted on the name 7 years ago). Questing as Disc and running each 5-man Dungeon once as Holy.
It's a good time.