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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Loxley

Member
I bought the Mystic Runesaber on a whim. I am weak.

Pff, I bought it specifically to use on my Draenei arcane mage a few months back, I'm not proud of myself either but boy does my mage look cool while riding it XD Now that enough time has gone by and the shame has worn off, that freaking Armored Bloodwing mount is starting to call to me...

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with Blizzard's restraint toward adding microtransactions to WoW. Even though it can absolutely be argued that they over-charge for what few they do have, they could be making a killing of selling transmog pieces in particular. I mean, if folks are willing to pony up crazy amounts of cash for skins in Overwatch, a game where you can't even see your damn character 95% of the time while playing, imagine the ridiculous amount of cash they'd be pulling in for WoW. Millions son.

Though you know it'll happen the day the game finally goes free-to-play, whenever the heck that happens.
 

Magnus

Member
Just under 8 days /played at 110. No legendary.

Help.

Pff, I bought it specifically to use on my Draenei arcane mage a few months back, I'm not proud of myself either but boy does my mage look cool while riding it XD Now that enough time has gone by and the shame has worn off, that freaking Armored Bloodwing mount is starting to call to me...

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with Blizzard's restraint toward adding microtransactions to WoW. Even though it can absolutely be argued that they over-charge for what few they do have, they could be making a killing of selling transmog pieces in particular. I mean, if folks are willing to pony up crazy amounts of cash for skins in Overwatch, a game where you can't even see your damn character 95% of the time while playing, imagine the ridiculous amount of cash they'd be pulling in for WoW. Millions son.

Though you know it'll happen the day the game finally goes free-to-play, whenever the heck that happens.

I agree with this, as a player who probably would spend a bunch of dough on the right armor and mounts. I mean, I dumped cash on packs and loot boxes in Hearthstone and Overwatch with the HOPE of getting the stuff I wanted. (although in both cases, you pile up 'gold'/dust to eventually hand-pick your reward too).

I haven't seen a mount WORTH the money to me yet, but if I see a totally sick transmog set I can't live without and it was gated behind a $5-10 charge...man, I could see myself doing it. lol
 

Peachpies

Member
this finally happened
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Renekton

Member
Any GAFer here successfully solo-PUGed Mythic+ up to high levels without skilled friends or guildies? How did you do it?

Seems like if I don't blaze to a high ilvl when keystone loot opened up, there is a vicious circle going on whereby keystone PUGs reject anything below 855.
 
Pff, I bought it specifically to use on my Draenei arcane mage a few months back, I'm not proud of myself either but boy does my mage look cool while riding it XD Now that enough time has gone by and the shame has worn off, that freaking Armored Bloodwing mount is starting to call to me...

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with Blizzard's restraint toward adding microtransactions to WoW. Even though it can absolutely be argued that they over-charge for what few they do have, they could be making a killing of selling transmog pieces in particular. I mean, if folks are willing to pony up crazy amounts of cash for skins in Overwatch, a game where you can't even see your damn character 95% of the time while playing, imagine the ridiculous amount of cash they'd be pulling in for WoW. Millions son.

Though you know it'll happen the day the game finally goes free-to-play, whenever the heck that happens.

I thought those three transmog helms sold during MoP for real money did so poorly and had such poor reception that it killed any future paid transmogs. Maybe it just wasn't the right time but I'd say Blizzard seemed fairly excited about them and the reaction wasn't pleasant across most areas I saw chatter.

I could be misremembering but I've noticed they're not available to buy in the in-game store so I figure this is part of the reasoning as they distanced themselves from it.

Edit: I do see they're still available online: https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow?categories=helms
 

Lomax

Member
Pff, I bought it specifically to use on my Draenei arcane mage a few months back, I'm not proud of myself either but boy does my mage look cool while riding it XD Now that enough time has gone by and the shame has worn off, that freaking Armored Bloodwing mount is starting to call to me...

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with Blizzard's restraint toward adding microtransactions to WoW. Even though it can absolutely be argued that they over-charge for what few they do have, they could be making a killing of selling transmog pieces in particular. I mean, if folks are willing to pony up crazy amounts of cash for skins in Overwatch, a game where you can't even see your damn character 95% of the time while playing, imagine the ridiculous amount of cash they'd be pulling in for WoW. Millions son.

Though you know it'll happen the day the game finally goes free-to-play, whenever the heck that happens.

Purely just on microtransactions WoW is in the top 5 for income. It's amazing how big it still is. But I think the reason they haven't gone all in is because they don't want to appear headed towards f2p, which I really don't think will ever happen. I just wish they'd expand what the tokens do. Let me cash out a token for $15 battle.net (or whatever it's called now) credit, so I can buy mounts and pets or even other games for that matter. There's no reason for it to be restricted to subscription payment exclusively.
 
Any GAFer here successfully solo-PUGed Mythic+ up to high levels without skilled friends or guildies? How did you do it?

Seems like if I don't blaze to a high ilvl when keystone loot opened up, there is a vicious circle going on whereby keystone PUGs reject anything below 855.
I've PUGed mythic+ up to +10. Mostly just by joining groups and getting to know people that way, you've gotta stand out though.

If you're struggling to gain ilvl raids are the most reliable way to go about it; although it's definitely a lot harder to get into groups if you fall behind gear wise. Getting your keystone carried might also be a good way to get gear.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
yeah i gave up on my alts entirely but that's partially cause i just leveled the wrong classes. i ended up just leveling 3 damage bots - warr, dh, dk. Shoulda spiced it up with a stealther or somethin in there
 

Lanrutcon

Member
Any GAFer here successfully solo-PUGed Mythic+ up to high levels without skilled friends or guildies? How did you do it?

Seems like if I don't blaze to a high ilvl when keystone loot opened up, there is a vicious circle going on whereby keystone PUGs reject anything below 855.

Yup.

This expansion is pretty much guild or die.
 

vocab

Member
Pug life is rough. It helps to know at least one healer or tank for a dual queue.

Well the guild searching has been interesting in the past couple of days. Got contacted by some heavy hitters.
 

Westlo

Member
Pff, I bought it specifically to use on my Draenei arcane mage a few months back, I'm not proud of myself either but boy does my mage look cool while riding it XD Now that enough time has gone by and the shame has worn off, that freaking Armored Bloodwing mount is starting to call to me...

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with Blizzard's restraint toward adding microtransactions to WoW. Even though it can absolutely be argued that they over-charge for what few they do have, they could be making a killing of selling transmog pieces in particular. I mean, if folks are willing to pony up crazy amounts of cash for skins in Overwatch, a game where you can't even see your damn character 95% of the time while playing, imagine the ridiculous amount of cash they'd be pulling in for WoW. Millions son.

Though you know it'll happen the day the game finally goes free-to-play, whenever the heck that happens.

Would pay $25 for mercys halloween outfit in wow, real talk.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
i just missed out on the ebonchill hidden artifact appearance because i didn't see the chatlog message, went through a portal, and was so shockinged to find myself in frostfire ridge that instead of staying there to collect it i went straight back through the portal
1.0
 

Lain

Member
I've completed my 5 timewalking dungeons, but I've not done EN at all, no normal, no lfr or whatever (my ilvl is still too low for even lfr) so what kind of gear I should be expecting out of the chest? I remember reading about the chest having gear based on my progress on EN in game but I'm not sure.
 

erawsd

Member
I've completed my 5 timewalking dungeons, but I've not done EN at all, no normal, no lfr or whatever (my ilvl is still too low for even lfr) so what kind of gear I should be expecting out of the chest? I remember reading about the chest having gear based on my progress on EN in game but I'm not sure.

Itll be LFR quality
 

Kuntz

Member
I've completed my 5 timewalking dungeons, but I've not done EN at all, no normal, no lfr or whatever (my ilvl is still too low for even lfr) so what kind of gear I should be expecting out of the chest? I remember reading about the chest having gear based on my progress on EN in game but I'm not sure.

My 6 characters, who never stepped in a raid ever, all got a 850 piece.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
I think the people who don't have time for alts are probably spending all their time in Mythic dungeons getting incremental upgrades or chasing chests for legendaries or looking for hidden artifact appearances or whatever. Boo hoo they gave you a lot to do at the end of the game, some real first world problems but I don't really see how this expansion is any more anti-alt as any other expansion. People are just choosing to spend their time doing other things. I just got my 2rd alt to 110 and will probably have 4 characters ready to go by the time 7.1 drops. I guess it depends on what you aim is and how much time you have. I started the expansion late so I was behind the bleeding edge curve anyway on my main so I said fuck it and started leveling alts once I saw that AP research mechanic and how slow it was to gain AP early on. I don't think it is hard to get to a certain point gear wise with this expansion. I was able to hit around 830-840ish in a day or so with a healer and some luck, it would take a bit longer on a DPS. Anyone asking for gear higher than 840-850 for casual raiding through normal is not worth my time. The real grind is AP but as time goes on and if you are getting that research going it is so much faster to the point actually seems like a waste of time to even collect any AP until it is quite a few levels in which is perfect for alts, I can just have them sit in their class hall doing mission, researching until I want to play them seriously. At that point it is trivial to get them to a certain ilvl and there will only be more avenues as the expac goes on.

Having multiple alts with all the major money making professions fully leveled will give me some diversity when that blood vendor hits so I am not totally fucked and can exploit parts of the market that aren't as trashed by that vendor as well. Honestly a big part of the game for me now is making gold. I am not even that worried about the blood vendor either. I survived the Frozen Orb vendor and it will be the same thing here. A month of too much supply and not enough demand will drop prices on raw materials but they won't go and stay draenor levels. You have to actually engage the world for a blood. Can't just sit in a garrison and get free bloods on 12 alts every day. Eventually people will deplete their stockpiles and things will stabilize on what they can earn in a day. Prices will be lower than now but still profitable. Ricky Bobbyism will probably drive a lot of people right out of gathering professions. I am already seeing people suggest to drop all gathering once the vendor hits.
 

Lain

Member
Itll be LFR quality

My 6 characters, who never stepped in a raid ever, all got a 850 piece.

Nope. The chest does not scale up or down. It's always normal quality.

Good to know.

Oh, while I'm here, let me rant a second about blacksmithing and the quests involving learning recipes.
I just don't understand why they put the rank 2 recipes for the ilvl 715 stuff on a vendor for 25gold a piece and then the blacksmithing quests teach me... rank 2 recipes I already know. Hell, I'm in Suramar and this NPC is giving me a quest for rank 2 Leystone Armguards while I already have rank 3. Why have an npc in a zone which is 110 by default teach a rank 2 recipe for a piece of gear which is ilvl715 (useless by the time you're in Suramar)? Why aren't these quests teaching me rank 3, which instead are given to me by forging 1 piece of gear and turning it in to a NPC for a world quest?
 
I think the people who don't have time for alts are probably spending all their time in Mythic dungeons getting incremental upgrades or chasing chests for legendaries or looking for hidden artifact appearances or whatever. Boo hoo they gave you a lot to do at the end of the game, some real first world problems but I don't really see how this expansion is any more anti-alt as any other expansion. People are just choosing to spend their time doing other things. I just got my 2rd alt to 110 and will probably have 4 characters ready to go by the time 7.1 drops. I guess it depends on what you aim is and how much time you have. I started the expansion late so I was behind the bleeding edge curve anyway on my main so I said fuck it and started leveling alts once I saw that AP research mechanic and how slow it was to gain AP early on. I don't think it is hard to get to a certain point gear wise with this expansion. I was able to hit around 830-840ish in a day or so with a healer and some luck, it would take a bit longer on a DPS. Anyone asking for gear higher than 840-850 for casual raiding through normal is not worth my time. The real grind is AP but as time goes on and if you are getting that research going it is so much faster to the point actually seems like a waste of time to even collect any AP until it is quite a few levels in which is perfect for alts, I can just have them sit in their class hall doing mission, researching until I want to play them seriously. At that point it is trivial to get them to a certain ilvl and there will only be more avenues as the expac goes on.

They didn't really give you more to do though, they just added an extra layer of RNG with titanforging so that the chances of getting actual BiS items is like 00.1%. That is not very fun.
 

Tarazet

Member
I feel good for my group. We're a bunch of casual ex-raiders who all have stressful jobs, reconnected with some players who hadn't played at all since TBC and now we've cleared Emerald Nightmare as a 10-man and done Heroic Nythendra all with no pugs. Feels like a huge accomplishment for us.

Now I need to get some upgrades. I'm only at 852 and there was still nothing that dropped I could use.
 

Rambaldi

Member
It's cute when other people get all elitist about how other people play the game.

GAF, I'm having trouble with this one guy in my guild. He's very.... "I'm right, you're wrong" about every aspect of the game. He's usually the first to die on every pull (it's never his fault), he tells you what talents you should be taking on toons he doesn't play, and he also gets super offended when people don't run dungeons with him. We are a casual raiding guild. Not some 5 nights a week kind of thing.

Last night I was questing on my mage playing a bit of catch-up between queues. He was in guild trying to recruit for timewalking but I didn't want instant queues since I was trying to finish a Stormheim skinning quest between dungeons. So of course the game puts me in a dungeon with him and his friend healer (who is also in my guild) and dude got SUPER ANGRY. Like, he confronted me (I'm the GM fwiw) and explained why I wasn't running dungeons with them and he just replied with an "okay." I should also mention I didn't get a single heal that run. At all.

I'm at my wits end with this guy because he's so rude and we all try to be nice but I am getting to the point where I just want him gone.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
So I just had a dungeon where the hunter's Trex pet grew into a ridiculous size, bigger than actual Trex npcs you encounter in Ungoro or that isle north of Pandaria.

Was just able to grab that pic before he left the group. (gotta love the low poly/res leaves from the earlier WoW years.)

 

Rambaldi

Member
So I just had a dungeon where the hunter's Trex pet grew into a ridiculous size, bigger than actual Trex npcs you encounter in Ungoro or that isle north of Pandaria.

Was just able to grab that pic before he left the group. (gotta love the low poly/res leaves from the earlier WoW years.)

I saw this in Dalaran last night. It reminded me of Power Rangers or something.
 

Nere

Member
It's cute when other people get all elitist about how other people play the game.

GAF, I'm having trouble with this one guy in my guild. He's very.... "I'm right, you're wrong" about every aspect of the game. He's usually the first to die on every pull (it's never his fault), he tells you what talents you should be taking on toons he doesn't play, and he also gets super offended when people don't run dungeons with him. We are a casual raiding guild. Not some 5 nights a week kind of thing.

Last night I was questing on my mage playing a bit of catch-up between queues. He was in guild trying to recruit for timewalking but I didn't want instant queues since I was trying to finish a Stormheim skinning quest between dungeons. So of course the game puts me in a dungeon with him and his friend healer (who is also in my guild) and dude got SUPER ANGRY. Like, he confronted me (I'm the GM fwiw) and explained why I wasn't running dungeons with them and he just replied with an "okay." I should also mention I didn't get a single heal that run. At all.

I'm at my wits end with this guy because he's so rude and we all try to be nice but I am getting to the point where I just want him gone.

If you are the GM why don't you just kick him? Or warn him that if he continues like that he will get kicked? In every casual guild there is a guy who doesn't realize what the word casual means and acts all superior and elitistic.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
It's cute when other people get all elitist about how other people play the game.

GAF, I'm having trouble with this one guy in my guild. He's very.... "I'm right, you're wrong" about every aspect of the game. He's usually the first to die on every pull (it's never his fault), he tells you what talents you should be taking on toons he doesn't play, and he also gets super offended when people don't run dungeons with him. We are a casual raiding guild. Not some 5 nights a week kind of thing.

Last night I was questing on my mage playing a bit of catch-up between queues. He was in guild trying to recruit for timewalking but I didn't want instant queues since I was trying to finish a Stormheim skinning quest between dungeons. So of course the game puts me in a dungeon with him and his friend healer (who is also in my guild) and dude got SUPER ANGRY. Like, he confronted me (I'm the GM fwiw) and explained why I wasn't running dungeons with them and he just replied with an "okay." I should also mention I didn't get a single heal that run. At all.

I'm at my wits end with this guy because he's so rude and we all try to be nice but I am getting to the point where I just want him gone.

Life's too short for people like that, man.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Gonna drop LW/Skinning on my DH, I think. Can't decide if I should pick up Herb/Inscription or Herb/Ench though.

Herb/Ench

In between WQs, Emissary caches, Challenger Caches and worthless Mythic+ loot, you have a ton of disenchanting fodder. I don't even know if Inscription makes money. Certainly you're better off selling raw herbs to Alchemists than milling them for glyphs.
 

Rambaldi

Member
If you are the GM why don't you just kick him? Or warn him that if he continues like that he will get kicked? In every casual guild there is a guy who doesn't realize what the word casual means and acts all superior and elitistic.

Because kicking him would perpetuate the elitist atmosphere in trying to avoid. I'm going to warn him and then we will go from there.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
Herb/Ench

In between WQs, Emissary caches, Challenger Caches and worthless Mythic+ loot, you have a ton of disenchanting fodder. I don't even know if Inscription makes money. Certainly you're better off selling raw herbs to Alchemists than milling them for glyphs.

Hmm yeah, it would be nice to have free enchants too :p

Because kicking him would perpetuate the elitist atmosphere in trying to avoid. I'm going to warn him and then we will go from there.

Nothing elitist about kicking someone for being a dick.
 

Xeteh

Member
It's cute when other people get all elitist about how other people play the game.

GAF, I'm having trouble with this one guy in my guild. He's very.... "I'm right, you're wrong" about every aspect of the game. He's usually the first to die on every pull (it's never his fault), he tells you what talents you should be taking on toons he doesn't play, and he also gets super offended when people don't run dungeons with him. We are a casual raiding guild. Not some 5 nights a week kind of thing.

Last night I was questing on my mage playing a bit of catch-up between queues. He was in guild trying to recruit for timewalking but I didn't want instant queues since I was trying to finish a Stormheim skinning quest between dungeons. So of course the game puts me in a dungeon with him and his friend healer (who is also in my guild) and dude got SUPER ANGRY. Like, he confronted me (I'm the GM fwiw) and explained why I wasn't running dungeons with them and he just replied with an "okay." I should also mention I didn't get a single heal that run. At all.

I'm at my wits end with this guy because he's so rude and we all try to be nice but I am getting to the point where I just want him gone.

If you are the GM why don't you just kick him? Or warn him that if he continues like that he will get kicked? In every casual guild there is a guy who doesn't realize what the word casual means and acts all superior and elitistic.

Life's too short for people like that, man.

I dealt with so many people like this back when I used to raid 4-5 nights a week and there is very little that sucks the fun out of a guild faster than people like that. Talk to him and see if he'll dial it back but if not I wouldn't put up with it.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Because kicking him would perpetuate the elitist atmosphere in trying to avoid. I'm going to warn him and then we will go from there.

Nah dude, you want your guild to have a chill atmosphere. Kicking a dick doesn't make you elitist, just be sure everyone knows it's because he's a dick and not because he's bad if you're that worried about the reaction. Hell, odds are you're not the only one who wants him gone.
 

CHC

Member
Yup.

This expansion is pretty much guild or die.

Yep, I'm definitely reaching the end of the line for casual play. I'm at iLvl 849 and unless I just grind things out hoping for Titanforged procs, I'm not really going much further without a guild. I'm torn - on one hand Legion has been a ton of fun and I want to keep going, but on the other hand I've seen all the sights and I don't really feel much drive to do harder versions of the same stuff again and again.

One of my big worries is that Kara PUGs are going to be like "870+++ 300k DPS" for no good reason. We'll see.
 
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