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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004
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lol, I'm tanking Maw and my entire party, minus me and the healer, die to the 2nd Corrupted Blow on Helya. After a few minutes one of the DPS tells me "omg die already" "this is taking so long". Don't tell me to wipe because you can't dodge the most telegraphed boss skill in the game.
protip: if someone wants to do level 8 vault of the wardens, tell them to fuck off.
- first mid-boss one shots your entire party instantly at 30% and is only beatable by dragging her to the entrance to rez zerg her
- first real boss regenerates and has a recharging shield, dps requirement is beyond anything yet I've seen at this level of mythic+ and I've done them all. Party is 860-870 ilevel.
- second boss stacks Necrotic pretty fast on his own and also summons hordes of adds that will stack it to 20-30 in seconds unless you bloodlust them down
- dreadlord miniboss must be skipped as he will one shot your party with meteor
it's not too bad after inquisitor but jesus h christ that was by far the hardest thing I've seen in this expansion so far.
- first mid-boss one shots your entire party instantly at 30% and is only beatable by dragging her to the entrance to rez zerg her
- first real boss regenerates and has a recharging shield, dps requirement is beyond anything yet I've seen at this level of mythic+ and I've done them all. Party is 860-870 ilevel.
- second boss stacks Necrotic pretty fast on his own and also summons hordes of adds that will stack it to 20-30 in seconds unless you bloodlust them down
- dreadlord miniboss must be skipped as he will one shot your party with meteor
it's not too bad after inquisitor but jesus h christ that was by far the hardest thing I've seen in this expansion so far.
How do you die to that? You've got to be like blind if that's what kills you. Every part of that fight is telegraphed to hell and back...
I'm willing to concede that you die to it if you don't know the fight, thats fine. It was just how pissy he got because I wasn't dying like the rest of the group. Come on.
Yea, but it was the second one. That means if they were paying attention they knew what to look for.
Stunned by a hole for example? Sometimes they are in shit places and you might not notice because you're healing or something?
You could be standing on the left side when she casts the first on the right, it can happen.
You're not wrong, shit happens. First time I did Mythic Maw on my Enh Shaman I got hit by a tentacle that spawned beneath me that knocked me up in to the air right in to another tentacle that killed me. Shit happens, I'm not bitching that people died. I don't care about wipes... it was just the guy bitching at me that I wasn't dying to speed things up when he died to an easy mechanic.
Got 1 chest on a +6 Neltharion's Lair and finished a +7 Halls of Valor. Got an amazing 855 relic. Still at only 852 equipped, but my weapon is at 886. The big problem is that I am mega squishy. Enhancement is squishy anyway, but I am badly lacking hit points as well. I only have 1.8 million health, and at +7 the random splash on that difficulty hits harder than that. I use my AoE stun at 30%, but there's only so much good that can do.
Orochinagis
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So huh, did Blizzard removed blood elves yellow eyes? I cant find them anymore
Maybe: http://www.mistyteahouse.com/weakaura-school/weakaura-school-1-the-basics/ ?
Honestly when it comes to WA your best bet is using a configuration someone has already created.
Check out https://wago.io
I am using one as a base but when I add to it, it replaces existing parts of it. I have no clue why as I add and don't choose replace.
Orochinagis
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Lucky transmog runs, got the blue yrel shoulders for my pally and complete the green shoulders for my monk, I dont care about WoD Mage armor because it looks like leather gear than actually clotch gear
I cleared vow 10 last night. Blizzard didnt even test that shit with these affixes. The first miniboss and the shivarra are insane. Warlock portal, tigers lust, heroic leap, and abusing bad ai pathing is the way to win.
Had no issue on first boss, but can see some groups having issues.
Add priority on Inquisitor is important. Mogu dog, other mogu, warlock, dynamite guy and felguard is the order I came up with for my group and it worked fine. Tried the exploit but the door didnt open.
Comp was prot warrior, ww, lock, dh, and holy pal.
Chie Satonaka
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I need some feedback.
So I got the Unstable Arcanocrystal from Withered J'im: http://www.wowhead.com/item=141482/unstable-arcanocrystal&bonus=1477
I'm using The Devilsaur's Bite:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=140026/the-devilsaurs-bite&bonus=1497:3432 (epic quality, it does much more damage than the link)
And a Mana Crystal Shard:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=134335/mana-crystal-shard&bonus=605:1507:1727
I feel like I want to replace the Shard with the Arcanocrystal, but I really don't want to lose that agility. But +822 in all four secondary stats seems really good.
Should I ditch it?
Windwalker Monk, if that matters.
So I got the Unstable Arcanocrystal from Withered J'im: http://www.wowhead.com/item=141482/unstable-arcanocrystal&bonus=1477
I'm using The Devilsaur's Bite:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=140026/the-devilsaurs-bite&bonus=1497:3432 (epic quality, it does much more damage than the link)
And a Mana Crystal Shard:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=134335/mana-crystal-shard&bonus=605:1507:1727
I feel like I want to replace the Shard with the Arcanocrystal, but I really don't want to lose that agility. But +822 in all four secondary stats seems really good.
Should I ditch it?
Windwalker Monk, if that matters.
Just quoting myself as I'm watching the 7.1 Q&A...
https://youtu.be/KE0Wr9Hdrdw?t=1487
I like you, Ion, but please for the love of god no... We're truly headed towards that picture, aren't we? I can't find it
Finally unlocked world quests and killed my first Withered Jim but only got gold. Managed to take my main artifact to 17 because, if nothing else, I leveled up that artifact knowledge here and there while doing nothing, reaching level 7 so the ap rewards don't completely suck.
The Val questline is pretty lame. You get corrupted, and you get corrupted, and you get corrupted. How is it possible that Azeroth is still not in the grasp of the demons with how dumb the leaders and characters up top on the power chain are? Only because the demons are even more dumb, probably.
Suramar so far isn't too bad but I'm not too deep into it. I'm liking the withered story though.
Oh, and a word about the comic book level drivel the enemies spout. The harpies who turn people to stone call me vile. The demons invading Azeroth say I'm the one not belonging in this world and how they will cleanse it. The ... dark nobles? let the demons come in and be their ally and yet they insult me for being... an outsider. If I wasn't killing them already, I'd slap them around.
The Val questline is pretty lame. You get corrupted, and you get corrupted, and you get corrupted. How is it possible that Azeroth is still not in the grasp of the demons with how dumb the leaders and characters up top on the power chain are? Only because the demons are even more dumb, probably.
Suramar so far isn't too bad but I'm not too deep into it. I'm liking the withered story though.
Oh, and a word about the comic book level drivel the enemies spout. The harpies who turn people to stone call me vile. The demons invading Azeroth say I'm the one not belonging in this world and how they will cleanse it. The ... dark nobles? let the demons come in and be their ally and yet they insult me for being... an outsider. If I wasn't killing them already, I'd slap them around.
First boss only generates that shield if the tank doesn't have active mitigation up during Darkstrikes. This was a failing by your tank and I never have him generate any shield at all on my Monk
Have you tried simming your character? It can be hard to tell people what trinkets are better without a full picture of ilevels of all trinkets, and your current stat levels. I bet the Arcanocrystal is going to be better because of the massive amount of stats
http://www.simulationcraft.org/download.html Download the desktop app here and import your character and give it a whirl. Can sim yourself with different trinkets and see what gives you the best results
Why are people having so much trouble in EeA?
I was just in a group that said "going for +3 run". 3 of them were friends because one later defended his hunter friend who didn't know anything and died multiple times, and then started bitching about me telling him he needs focus the other add and not the one the 2 melee are focusing, and proceeded to die 2 more times (pretty sure he died on the first boss too), one on trash and on the last boss. The other one was a DH with 1.4m hp.
3 Chests. Sure.
I was just in a group that said "going for +3 run". 3 of them were friends because one later defended his hunter friend who didn't know anything and died multiple times, and then started bitching about me telling him he needs focus the other add and not the one the 2 melee are focusing, and proceeded to die 2 more times (pretty sure he died on the first boss too), one on trash and on the last boss. The other one was a DH with 1.4m hp.
3 Chests. Sure.
I got my Demo Lock hidden appearance last night as well. Anyone have any suggestions for what BG to use to farm kills in? I haven't pvped at all in ages. I don't care about honor ranks or wins or gear or anything, just the fastest way to the 1000 kills.
Thanks, I guess some things never change lol
Thanks, I guess some things never change lol
AV is probably your best bet.
I'm enjoying Legion, but the amount of work to do anything is staggering if you want to spend time doing anything other than playing WoW. Forget alts or even second specs. I went Prot spec with my warriors artifact and now I'm gimped if I want to DPS or PVP. I can't even imagine if they make major changes that nerf/buff a currently "bad" spec. I still have my level 100 boost because I can't even keep up with my two "main" characters.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it really this hard for people who don't play this game 8 hours a day?
Am I doing something wrong, or is it really this hard for people who don't play this game 8 hours a day?
Anyone know the current Blood of Sargeras vendor values in 7.1? Oh, this is it, derp... http://www.wowhead.com/news=256536/patch-7-1-ptr-preview-profession-and-blood-of-sargeras-updates
How the hell am I going to spend 1.9k bloods effectively...
Their answer seems to be "Well, artifact knowledge will make it easier to do things... In the future. Woo!"
How the hell am I going to spend 1.9k bloods effectively...
Their answer seems to be "Well, artifact knowledge will make it easier to do things... In the future. Woo!"
Well, I guess I'm not doing anything wrong, it's just too much work to do anything other than one class and one spec... I may have to rethink this playing WoW after a 6 year hiatus thing again. :|
Artifact knowledge scaling is so crazy it makes caring about artifact ranks right now as a casual player seem pointless. My paladin that is a couple weeks ahead of my warlock gets four times the AP per item (even with the faster research catchup), and in a couple months a single item will take a spec from level 1 to 20 instantly. If they do make it account wide (which it should be), changing specs and raising alts will instantly be trivial.
Napalm_Frank
Member
At this point everyone should have learned ''3 chests'' means wipefest group almost every time.
I feel like 3-2 chests are much more likely to come naturally depending how the group is doing damage taken and dealt wise than something you agree on at the start unless you are going with a group of friends. With volcanic in EU I have spotted so many hunters and mages that are in such a hurry to deal dps that they just die all the time to the volcanoes for not paying attention.
As a tank if the damage output is bad I won't do large pulls no matter how much the dps yell to pull more. Even better if the said dps is a spec that is heavy on single target damage.
My god Black Rook Hold raging+necrotic should not even be a keystone you are given, what an awful place with those affixes. Here's a list of all the annoying garbage in there:
- huge pulls to ensure as a tank you will always have plenty of necrotic stacks
- no room to kite to drop necrotic, unless you use stairs with broken LoS for healers
- Cats (leap on ranged), Arcane mobs (cast random target), archers (face randomly and do a cone), knife throwers (pick a random target), bat hallway (fel guards send bats at random target): these are not even all of the mobs in there that will attack a non tank, and if it happens during raging last 30%, have the potential to 1 shot
- Necrotic + wrathguard frenzy with a 20+ yard range, I was fully down the hallway and still got melee hit
That said, we still finished it, and weren't too far over the timer. But really ended up being so much harder than any other dungeon with this affix combo that it seemed silly to ever try again. I will say that the last boss on higher mythic+ is very fun though, interesting in that the first ~40 seconds of the fight is crazy hard then once you get the buff it stabilizes, but man those flies can mess you up.
- huge pulls to ensure as a tank you will always have plenty of necrotic stacks
- no room to kite to drop necrotic, unless you use stairs with broken LoS for healers
- Cats (leap on ranged), Arcane mobs (cast random target), archers (face randomly and do a cone), knife throwers (pick a random target), bat hallway (fel guards send bats at random target): these are not even all of the mobs in there that will attack a non tank, and if it happens during raging last 30%, have the potential to 1 shot
- Necrotic + wrathguard frenzy with a 20+ yard range, I was fully down the hallway and still got melee hit
That said, we still finished it, and weren't too far over the timer. But really ended up being so much harder than any other dungeon with this affix combo that it seemed silly to ever try again. I will say that the last boss on higher mythic+ is very fun though, interesting in that the first ~40 seconds of the fight is crazy hard then once you get the buff it stabilizes, but man those flies can mess you up.
Ilvl of mana crystal shard would help, but devilsaur bite for ww is terrible. It barely procs and the damage is weak.
jaundicejuice
Member
I've got 8 days left on my current sub and I don't know if I want to re-up. While Legion seems like it's a much better expansion than Warlords of Draenor (which I pretty much subbed from WoD launch til now), I just don't want to play it as much and can't exactly articulate why. The inability to settle on a faction/server/class/race, not having friends playing or being able to find a guild I enjoyed being in certainly didn't help. Civ VI comes out in 7 days so I think I'll just let my sub lapse, play some other games and only re-up (have two game time cards) when I start to feel that itch again.
My sub is up in a few days, and ive been playing less lately (playing other games when im not doing mythics instead of leveling alts or soing WQs for example) but there is zero chance im nissing the launch of Kara, thats worth a month of sub for me
For me the reason I'm dropping my sub is the incredible penalty the game now puts in alts. I think the expansions itself is fantastic, and clearly puts wow back on top of the pile as the bes MMO out there. But my original group hasn't worked out, and my other group of friends are on a different server. So I either pay 40 quid to join them on my current character, which is obscene and the price of a full price game, or I start over from scratch and have to grind the AP and rep again. Neither is acceptable, so I'll enjoy the month I got out of it and say goodbye.
To be fair if I didnt have my little mythic dungeon / normal EN posse, I too wouldnt stick around. Pug life is abysmal.
Edit: except my Pug, his life is better than mine the little bastard :3
Edit: except my Pug, his life is better than mine the little bastard :3
Not actually my pug
jaundicejuice
Member
The prices for boosting or character transfers is obscene. I bought Civ VI, that's how much a character boost costs, rather than pay for either of those. How Artifact Power and Knowledge are handled make this the least alt-friendly expansion. I would rather level multiple garrisons than artifacts.
Don't necessarily need to be on the same server to raid with them. I have to do this as I enjoy my character.
FINALLY
I never really join groups based on the "going for 2/3 chests" but I found this one to be frustrating because this guy wouldn't bother to learn from his mistakes.
I've had multiple pugs with chill people where we ended up rushing because everyone knew what they were doing and it was fun as hell, but I've also had ones where people clearly didn't know at least some of the tactics so we took it more slowly.
I've only pugged 2 +6/7 so far (doing higher ups mostly with my group guild) so I haven't had a lot of experience with randoms and volcanic but the 2 that I did weren't that bad IIRC
It's always nice when a tank knows what's he's doing and dictates the pace but in my experience a lot of the pugs I've been in had in-experienced tanks for whatever reason.
I never really join groups based on the "going for 2/3 chests" but I found this one to be frustrating because this guy wouldn't bother to learn from his mistakes.
I've had multiple pugs with chill people where we ended up rushing because everyone knew what they were doing and it was fun as hell, but I've also had ones where people clearly didn't know at least some of the tactics so we took it more slowly.
I've only pugged 2 +6/7 so far (doing higher ups mostly with my group guild) so I haven't had a lot of experience with randoms and volcanic but the 2 that I did weren't that bad IIRC
It's always nice when a tank knows what's he's doing and dictates the pace but in my experience a lot of the pugs I've been in had in-experienced tanks for whatever reason.
AP isn't very hard to catch up on, and they already said they're fixing rep for alts as far as WQ requirements etc. Either way, getting to world quest level (Which is the only REAL important part) is trivial. As noted, can play cross server for anything but mythic raiding too.
That looks awesome.
Dude, fuck it, I'm playing frost, you can too. DK but still. It's even worse (though unholy is a lot worse than fire too of course).
I leveled my DH to 110 and boy I do not like what that rotation becomes. I like fel rush as part of the rotation but throw glaive and vengeful retreat for a shitty little buff uptime and tryign to game yourself up against walls for maximum uptime is some of the most unfun DPS rotating I've ever done.
I think you should only advertise "2/3 chest" groups if you are a carry group taking one extra person. If 40% or more of your group isn't decided already, you are foolish to think you can go for 3 chest. Even at +2, 3 chest takes really solid coordination to make large pulls work, and that will never happen with several random people banding together.
When I advertise my carry groups, I always say "2 chest guaranteed, 3 chest likely" because we can 4 man a 2 chest +2 run, but even at our ilvl the carry can be bad enough to prevent a guaranteed 3 chest.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
I bought the Mystic Runesaber on a whim. I am weak.
I'm paying for race change haha
It is the best looking one, to be fair. I bought it
for gold
They fucked up by not making one of the rogue legendaries 'red defias mask'