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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Robin64

Member
Woo!

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Lanrutcon

Member
Yep, I'm definitely reaching the end of the line for casual play. I'm at iLvl 849 and unless I just grind things out hoping for Titanforged procs, I'm not really going much further without a guild. I'm torn - on one hand Legion has been a ton of fun and I want to keep going, but on the other hand I've seen all the sights and I don't really feel much drive to do harder versions of the same stuff again and again.

One of my big worries is that Kara PUGs are going to be like "870+++ 300k DPS" for no good reason. We'll see.

Kara is 855 loot, so yup. People will be asking for 860 minimum, most will ask for 870.
 

Vestal

Junior Member
If anyone needs a tank(pally 845) or a DPs(dh 843) for mythical or raids let me know. Play mostly after 9pm est. Working on my shammy now for heals hehe.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Did they mention anything about new Goblin or Worgen models in the 7.1 Q&A or is that the new Dance Studio?
I do not remember them ever saying they planned on updating the Cata models. Maybe it will happen one or two expansions down he road but it seems very low on the priority list for them.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I do not remember them ever saying they planned on updating the Cata models. Maybe it will happen one or two expansions down he road but it seems very low on the priority list for them.

Blood Elves, Goblins, and Worgen are planned to be updated at a future point in time.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/16365525

Now with everyone having the new models, they look extremely outdated by their very stilted animation and practically frozen facial features.
 

erawsd

Member
I do not remember them ever saying they planned on updating the Cata models. Maybe it will happen one or two expansions down he road but it seems very low on the priority list for them.

Yeah, I recall them saying Worgen/Goblin wasnt a priority. That said, Genn did get a new Worgen model so it wouldnt surprise me if thats a peak at whats to come, similar to Garrosh's upgrade in MoP.
 
Best argument I can make against leveling a healer in PVE current content is simply leveling a healer in PVE after spending a decent amount of time leveling as a tank. Holy Paladin has no interrupts outside of a stun on a 1 minute cooldown and two talent choices on the same tier. And it has half the dps abilities of a Retribution Paladin. Holy is basically a Ret without the Holy Power builders and spenders, so you spend even more time spinning your wheels waiting for what few dps abilities you have to come off of CD. You basically spend half of every encounter simply healing the damage you're sponging. Maybe AP gains makes leveling as a Holy in PVE better but there's just no point in playing anything but Protection while leveling.
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
It's cute when other people get all elitist about how other people play the game.

GAF, I'm having trouble with this one guy in my guild. He's very.... "I'm right, you're wrong" about every aspect of the game. He's usually the first to die on every pull (it's never his fault), he tells you what talents you should be taking on toons he doesn't play, and he also gets super offended when people don't run dungeons with him. We are a casual raiding guild. Not some 5 nights a week kind of thing.

Last night I was questing on my mage playing a bit of catch-up between queues. He was in guild trying to recruit for timewalking but I didn't want instant queues since I was trying to finish a Stormheim skinning quest between dungeons. So of course the game puts me in a dungeon with him and his friend healer (who is also in my guild) and dude got SUPER ANGRY. Like, he confronted me (I'm the GM fwiw) and explained why I wasn't running dungeons with them and he just replied with an "okay." I should also mention I didn't get a single heal that run. At all.

I'm at my wits end with this guy because he's so rude and we all try to be nice but I am getting to the point where I just want him gone.

Kick him out before he starts a revolution and takes more than just a few people with him....
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/16365525

Now with everyone having the new models, they look extremely outdated by their very stilted animation and practically frozen facial features.
If we see more Sylvanas/Greymane stuff and any Goblin stuff in the future that would be the push it needs, but it's hard to see them doing them independently. With how Blizzard did the reworks it almost feels like a waste of time even when the models need it, because there is literally no way to fix the entirety of female Worgen, male Worgen animations/armor, Goblin melee animations without a big overhaul. Unfortunately overhauls go against their philosophy of preserving character identity or something dumb like that.

If the next expansion is focused on Queen Azshara then I would expect Goblin reworks to come with something like that. Zero chance either just come in a patch.
 

Westlo

Member
Whats the most gold people have got from a class order hall mission.

Currently got 182% chance to get 1155 gold plus 750 bonus. This shit slays garrisons when it comes to single character. Probably 3 toons would equal 12 garrison lol... If i get this bonus proc thats like 6k in 3 days....
 
Any of you guys know how long it'll take an lfr group to clear 1 wing of EM? My friend is interested in raiding, but doesn't know if he has the time commitment for it.
 

scy

Member
Any GAFer here successfully solo-PUGed Mythic+ up to high levels without skilled friends or guildies? How did you do it?

Seems like if I don't blaze to a high ilvl when keystone loot opened up, there is a vicious circle going on whereby keystone PUGs reject anything below 855.

While not necessarily the situation you describe, I've pretty much just pugged via people on GAF or friends of GAF. Granted, I'm a tank, though I've been asked to come DPS as well, so that skews things a bit. Still, I'm always looking for trying to put together groups to run things (Horde NA) and I just consistently never have 4 other people on to even try with so I'm usually left with waiting around.

Would pay $25 for mercys halloween outfit in wow, real talk.

new Spirit of Redemption glyph
+10000% Priest population
 

TheYanger

Member
Because kicking him would perpetuate the elitist atmosphere in trying to avoid. I'm going to warn him and then we will go from there.

No, it wouldn't. Take it from a LOOOOONG time GM/raid leader/officer in almost every guild I've been in since EverQuest days. Toxic people breed shitty atmospheres, it's not elitist to kick them, it's EXTREMELY healthy for your guild. It doesn't even matter how good or bad they are, it's a rookie mistake to keep people around that are like this just because you think you 'need' them. You don't need anybody. Everyone is replaceable. Especially in a casual/friendly guild, you have literally no attachment to the guy.

Keeping him around is perpetuating the atmosphere you're talking about, kicking him relieves it.

EDIT: God dammit I need to not read threads backwards and double post. sorry.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Because kicking him would perpetuate the elitist atmosphere in trying to avoid. I'm going to warn him and then we will go from there.

Sounds like keeping from around is adding to the elitist atmosphere and removing him would help preserve the laid back atmosphere you want out of your guild.

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Any GAFer here successfully solo-PUGed Mythic+ up to high levels without skilled friends or guildies? How did you do it?

Seems like if I don't blaze to a high ilvl when keystone loot opened up, there is a vicious circle going on whereby keystone PUGs reject anything below 855.

Look for carry runs and then armory the leader to see what kind of gear they have. I've done a few of those and always end up with 2-3 chests.
 

Tenebrous

Member
Was he in the portal group? the logs need both being logged and merged to be accurate. Otherwise, yeesh.

He was, and we didn't merge logs, but still... Sucks to be that guy.

(He's actually done alright for us on all our kills, so it is just a portal thing. Our Enhance Shaman also finished between the two tanks).
 

Lanrutcon

Member
Ran Arcway for the first time.

Dungeon seems kinda bloated? Lots of trash mechanics, lots of trash, loads of pulls. It wasn't a nightmare, but I doubt I'd run it again unless I have a serious reason to.
 

TheYanger

Member
Ran Arcway for the first time.

Dungeon seems kinda bloated? Lots of trash mechanics, lots of trash, loads of pulls. It wasn't a nightmare, but I doubt I'd run it again unless I have a serious reason to.

Arcway is legitimately the worst dungeon in a LONG time in wow. The bosses are 'ok' at best.

Just imagine, you're doing it after they nerfed the ghost lady spawns too.

CoS being great makes up for it.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Oh, they nerfed the ghost NPCs? No wonder I haven't seen one in a while.

You used to do have to kill, like, 6 or more each run.
 
Ran Arcway for the first time.

Dungeon seems kinda bloated? Lots of trash mechanics, lots of trash, loads of pulls. It wasn't a nightmare, but I doubt I'd run it again unless I have a serious reason to.

Makes sense since is a sewer but eh, I feel is pretty lazy in design and enemy encounters , Blizzard didnt ever bother to make a proper unique Suramar dungeon to be different from Suramar
 

Lanrutcon

Member
Arcway is legitimately the worst dungeon in a LONG time in wow. The bosses are 'ok' at best.

Just imagine, you're doing it after they nerfed the ghost lady spawns too.

CoS being great makes up for it.

I'm actually a huge fan of the general dungeon design this time around. The WoD dungeons had me bored after a short while.

I particularly like MoS. Short, sweet, great set pieces, epic end fight, no filler and the whole thing is one giant mythology callback.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
The only dungeon I dislike so far is Violet Hold.

It's kinda bullshit that they brought that back and didn't change anything in it, it would've been great if one of the bosses had escaped and dug into the walls and it was a completely new dungeon or something like that.

VH came up on the daily heroic yesterday and I actually dozed off in a pull cus I was so bored.
 
The only dungeon I dislike so far is Violet Hold.

It's kinda bullshit that they brought that back and didn't change anything in it, it would've been great if one of the bosses had escaped and dug into the walls and it was a completely new dungeon or something like that.

VH came up on the daily heroic yesterday and I actually dozed off in a pull cus I was so bored.

VH's NPC Warden reaction sums of everyone reaction.

Sölf;220307400 said:
Woho, got a +7 keystone today! Also got several +6 keystones. We will try to at least finish +7 (Halls of Valor) tomorrow.

RIP
 

Sölf

Member
Woho, got a +7 keystone today! Also got several +6 keystones. We will try to at least finish +7 (Halls of Valor) tomorrow.
 

v1perz53

Member
Whats the most gold people have got from a class order hall mission.

Currently got 182% chance to get 1155 gold plus 750 bonus. This shit slays garrisons when it comes to single character. Probably 3 toons would equal 12 garrison lol... If i get this bonus proc thats like 6k in 3 days....

Yea, order halls can net a lot of gold. Unfortunately, thanks to the garrison gold surge and other factors, everything is way more expensive now than it was in WoD too... 400g for a single DPS potion, 1200g for a single flask. So you can earn way more but everything costs WAY more.
 

ampere

Member
Arcway is legitimately the worst dungeon in a LONG time in wow. The bosses are 'ok' at best.

Just imagine, you're doing it after they nerfed the ghost lady spawns too.

CoS being great makes up for it.

Arcway is pretty awful.

My issues with CoS are that some elements make for really inconsistent times to clear, like profession item RNG and the costume part if you don't have a demon detecting spec
 

v1perz53

Member
I like Eye of Azshara a lot, works well with mythic+ and I like the "play well or get fucked" idea of the way the mobs grab extra stuff. Also a lot of freedom with what you kill and what you don't. Seagulls can suck it though. Black Rook Hold is my personal nightmare, mechanics are bad, line of sight issues throughout, and every pull is huge with mobs that can't be positioned easily. Arcway is fine, but it never seems worth doing because it is so much longer and more complex than the others that I feel like there's limited point to running it. Court of Stars is a really cool Mythic dungeon that I like a lot but a TERRIBLE mythic+ dungeon. Too much randomness, and too much bias based on class composition, and I don't just mean the class based items.

I guess what I realize from typing this is that sometimes what makes a good Mythic+ dungeon doesn't translate well to mythic standard and vice versa.
 

Lomax

Member
Whats the most gold people have got from a class order hall mission.

Currently got 182% chance to get 1155 gold plus 750 bonus. This shit slays garrisons when it comes to single character. Probably 3 toons would equal 12 garrison lol... If i get this bonus proc thats like 6k in 3 days....

You'd have to get a mission like that almost every day to equal what garrisons were cranking out once set up. Not only that, but garrisons were completely self sustaining very quickly; the class halls don't generate resources, so lesser played alts are rapidly unable to run missions. It's nice getting some easy income, but it will never be what garrisons were, which is probably better for the game I guess.

On a related note, I find it funny that we now have the companion app when class halls barely need interacting with more than a couple times a day, whereas a companion app for garrisons would have been a godsend. It does annoy me though that the best way to deal with the order hall is to log out of the game and turn on the app, the missions button on the minimap in game should have the same functionality that the app does.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
Week in, and my Brewmaster is upto 853. Class is brilliant.

You're switching mains right? What are you switching from? (I think it was Prot Warrior but not sure)

Kinda want to roll a tank for my M+ groups (Pally is 108 at the moment), but I like the Monk fantasy. How are Brewmasters?
 
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