Also, Enhancement has a lot of RNG at play. The baseline chance for Stormbringer procs is 10%, increasing with your Mastery.. but sometimes it can proc off itself repeatedly. I had a 75 second fight where I used Stormstrike 34 times. Then I was a pug in a regular Court of Stars and managed to kill the first boss without ever getting a proc! It goes without saying the difference in damage done was massive.
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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004
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Also, Enhancement has a lot of RNG at play. The baseline chance for Stormbringer procs is 10%, increasing with your Mastery.. but sometimes it can proc off itself repeatedly. I had a 75 second fight where I used Stormstrike 34 times. Then I was a pug in a regular Court of Stars and managed to kill the first boss without ever getting a proc! It goes without saying the difference in damage done was massive.
Yea Dorothea mana-drained me twice and was running on empty, but Moroes down anyways coz HoTs are cheap and bloom crits are big.
I forgot to mention earlier than when we killed moroes, it wasnt beute forcing the adds. We tried that a couple of times and it didn't work, so we split the difference and CCed 2 and killed 2 at the start. A couple wipes later and we got him. The kill was actually very smooth, our mage died at the very end which actually prompted me to panic but then I looked at Moroes' health and he had like 9million left so I was like "oh hes basically dead cool".
I know some people (I imagine heroic and especially mythic raiders) dont get much out of it and dont like it, but Kara was everything I wanted. It totally feels like a 5 man raid, the sense of progression with boss wipes and whatnot, I hope there's more like that in the future. Hell make flex scale down to 5 people
We had the tank (me) sit on Baroness to just interrupt the mana drain until she was dead because we wanted to have DPS focus Kiera while we aoe'd everything else down.
That sounds totally crazy. The outgoing group damage is immense.
Yeah but instead of prolonging the fight and everyone being garroted by the time you kill all 4 adds you're taking out all the adds together and it makes the rest of it easier. It really wasn't too bad on me as an 859 Bear Druid.
I remember reading that the class is perfectly fine as a tank but that the issue is that they're way too difficult to play as currently made, and this does nothing to dispel that narrative lol
Fuck, I love these. There was one with Spriests, can not find it.
Holy shit at that beer part lmao. Is that what removes their stagger?
I never felt like I was playing it right, like I was always on the verge of dying. I leveled my Druid and everything is just infinitely easier.
Yeah, one brew reduces current stagger and the other spreads it out more.
Http://imgur.com/a/U9OVF <- this one?
Hahah yes. I main holy but me trying to play Shadow sums this up pretty much.
NumberThree
Member
As an example, my DPS last night on heroic Dragons was 90k lower than normal on Wednesday, and the fight itself didn't feel much worse (i.e. I didn't feel like I was doing bad) even though it was a progress kill.
Robin64
Member
It's a very odd choice.
Lanrutcon
Member
If you have a level 3 Garrison you can do a Garrison quest called "Unearthed Magic" that yields an Ultimate stone, that instantly takes a pet to 25. Quest involves 1 minute of walking.
Those little pet charms you get from pet world quests? 72 of those get you 24 level up stones. Pet WQs can be completed on each level 110 character you have. So if there's a quest for 20 charms, you can do it with 3 characters to get 60 stones. On any given day there are 1 to 2 pet quests up that give charms. You will need some proper battle pets to finish them though. This is my primary means of leveling pets.
The other alternative is using the pet WQs to level your Falcosaur. This takes some strategy and 2 other (specific) battle pets that will "carry" your Falcosaur. Again, if you haven't been collecting and raising pets this method isn't really an option (unless you spend some gold on the AH and buy max levels pets).
So, essentially I have to do a lot of pet battle related stuff? Yeah, that's my issue with it. I used the token when it was first introduced years ago, so I can't use that.
Lanrutcon
Member
Shit. Then you're boned if you already did Unearthed Magic on each level 3 garrison you have
Shit. Then you're boned if you already did Unearthed Magic on each level 3 garrison you have
You can get a lvl3 garrison on a DH in ~30 minutes if don't mind spending the gold for upgrading.
Lanrutcon
Member
But then he'd have to play a Demon Hunter. Ewww.
Yeah, he could do that. It's a hell of a lot less effort than manually leveling a pet, that's for sure.
How much gold?
5k for the upgrade to level 3. If you want to get the required 2k GR quickly you might want to add some Huge Ogre Caches from the AH (~1k gold per 1k GR). Or just do some treasure hunting and/or quests that reward GR.
Teletraan1
Banned
Your boosted character comes with a level 3 garrison as well.
Guhnmystro
Member
Kara was fun but I'll never do it again lol, took 6 hours total
Lanrutcon
Member
I am hearing a lot of people say this :/ haven't gotten in myself, but is it really that bad?
Like 2.5 hours first clear for me but it could easily be brought down. Six seems pretty crazy.
Took our group about 4 hours the first time. Blood, HPriest, Enhance, BM, Destro. Lots of random deaths to one-shot mechanics, and the run back is very long in some places (like the last boss). If they put more checkpoints in, it would be a more enjoyable experience.
The rewards were good, starting from an 860 baseline which is equivalent to a Mythic +8. Our Priest even got a legendary off the last boss, and I got a trinket that gives me 4% more critical strike chance on any fight where I'm on the same target longer than 10 seconds.
I think that's not what this dungeon is intended for.
It sort of takes me back to early wow dungeons like UBRS, where you needed to put in effort and a lot of time to learn fights and progress (which is exactly what I love about it).
Besides that, gating certain sections of the dungeon would really poorly influence the story heavy aspect of this instance.
It took me and a PUG group of 865+ about 2,5 hours to clear. We were all first timers there.
I think if I were to do it again with an experienced group you can bring it down to 1,5- 2 hours.
Teletraan1
Banned
I haven't done it either but it seems to be the opposite of how the majority of the game's players I have encountered want to run things. Fast, skipping every piece of trash possible. They should just release a dungeon that is just a a pure no nonsense boss rush if they wanted to appease the people actually playing this game. But they have to tap this nostalgia itch which lasts a few runs (if that) then you are left with another reminder that some of that game design is best left in the past.
ShinMaruku
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When meta works against you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEf_RC693E
Tiny ass arena 1 huge ass demon, I am a slight smaller but still huge ass demon, camera loves my wings... ;o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEf_RC693E
Tiny ass arena 1 huge ass demon, I am a slight smaller but still huge ass demon, camera loves my wings... ;o
I'm imagining a Caverns of Time dungeon in the style of Violet Hold where it's nothing but past bosses and no stupid portal shit.
Which would pretty much make instances work like a slot machine.
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Ah I remember that. Wasn't too bad. Just spam some heroics. Or do Glory of the Legion Hero cheevos.
Biggest slap in the face for me was the quest that required Obliterium. This was during launchweek when they were 5000g a pop. 5000g for a progression quest smh.
ShinMaruku
Member
I got console port almost at 95% working just a few tweaks and it will be perfect.
At first I was loopy about demon hunters, but with this mod, I can definatly keep it up. I just need to watch out for the dc mechanics.
At first I was loopy about demon hunters, but with this mod, I can definatly keep it up. I just need to watch out for the dc mechanics.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Decided to start raiding again. After Heroic ICC caused our guild to implode on an Arthas fight and had me quitting wow...I'm back at it. FML
Agreed with 4th spec.
Agreed with 4th spec.
I'm talking about the 7.1 quest that requires you to get 80 Lingering Soul Fragments that only drop on the last boss of dungeons and has a like 10% or something drop rate in heroics and a cap of 10 a week.
That's not "too bad"?
Robin64
Member
It's stupid, this questline was going so well up to that point.
My brain was unable to process the quest at first. You want what from me? Complete wtf moment.
Take a look at the Trial of the Crusader raid for an example of how players do not know what they actually want at all, and why a boss rush dungeon/raid is a terrible idea. People think they want it then they realize it is actually awful when they get it.
Anyway, I thought Kara was great. Considering that you can do all of the first half trash in ~35-40 minutes by definition for the Nightbane speed run, it may seem like a lot but it really isn't that bad, the pulls are just big. I wouldn't be opposed if they reduced it though.The second half was perfect though, but also why there should never be a queueing system for this dungeon. Trying to imagine doing shade of aran in a dungeon finder group makes my soul hurt.
Honestly until seeing some people complaining about this I had no idea it was a thing at all that people had an issue with, I thought people were complaining that TOO MANY dropped initially and they kept getting the error message and postmaster spam. Doing mythic+ runs you get like 7 from the end of each dungeon, I've probably gotten all 80 this week if there wasn't a 10 weekly cap. Really weird design decision to make them drop almost never from heroics but like candy in mythics. Honestly even mythic +0 drops like 5 per run guaranteed, though I know it isn't always easy to get into runs. But chain heroics is definitely not an optimal way to finish the quest (which is a dumb design decision on blizzards part)
Mythic +0 is 1 drop per run. Every + level adds another drop. So +5 drops 5. +10 drops 10.
I'm super casual. That quest line was super casual and content that super casuals like me could do. Finally Blizzard seemed to give us non-raiders and casuals new story content and a reason to keep subscribed from patch to patch. But nope. Not anymore. People like me would need to run on average 800 heroic dungeons. Even if I happened to find a guild or pug mythic (which I won't be able to because I have low iLvl and don't spec the way the community feels I should) that would be 80 runs minimum. I'm so far away from doing mythic +anything, that's not a viable thing for me.
I don't think I have ever run 80 dungeons in any expansion in the 2 year lifespan of each one. And this wants me to run 80+ in a single patch.
My play time is limited and I'm distracted by life a lot of the time and can't commit to sitting there for entire runs that often. In the 2 months since Legion's launch I've only run each dungeon 1-2 times. Once for the Pillars of Creation quest line and another time to try it out on Heroic. I haven't done the ones not required by the Pillars of Creation quest. Maw of Souls, the Suramar locked ones (I haven't even unlocked them yet).
I'll have you know I worked my ass off for that WQ! I deserved it.
Got it confused with a DH campaign quest. Yeah it sounds horrible.