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PhoenixDark
Banned
I got this from the Durn quest in Nagrand
http://thottbot.com/i25772
And I made this for myself
http://thottbot.com/i30074
Today was a good day
And I did good tanking Auchenai Crypts for the first time
(52% dm taken, healer 9% dm taken)
We got NO drops from mobs. I've never seen that happen. And all the boss drops were meh, at least to me (mail stuff, cloth, etc). I doubt I'll come back
We wiped a couple times mainly due to not knowing the instance at all. But overall it was pretty easy, plus we had a badass lv70 mage
http://thottbot.com/i25772
And I made this for myself
http://thottbot.com/i30074
Today was a good day
And I did good tanking Auchenai Crypts for the first time
(52% dm taken, healer 9% dm taken)
We got NO drops from mobs. I've never seen that happen. And all the boss drops were meh, at least to me (mail stuff, cloth, etc). I doubt I'll come back
We wiped a couple times mainly due to not knowing the instance at all. But overall it was pretty easy, plus we had a badass lv70 mage
SatelliteOfLove
Member
PhoenixDark said:I got this from the Durn quest in Nagrand
http://thottbot.com/i25772
And I made this for myself
http://thottbot.com/i30074
Today was a good day
And I did good tanking Auchenai Crypts for the first time
(52% dm taken, healer 9% dm taken)
We got NO drops from mobs. I've never seen that happen. And all the boss drops were meh, at least to me (mail stuff, cloth, etc). I doubt I'll come back
We wiped a couple times mainly due to not knowing the instance at all. But overall it was pretty easy, plus we had a badass lv70 mage
Good job; that's a hard instance to do (and frankly, to find a group for) at level; the Possessors are fun that first time, ain't they? :lol
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
So, guys who leveled warriors to 70, does it ever get hard to solo as a warrior? I'm at 37-38 right now and as arms it's been extremely easy to solo quest. When leveling toons all I do is solo questing so instances and most group quests are out of the question. I kinda figure it'll get even quicker and easy at 40 with me getting MS and plate but I just wanna make sure.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Ya I'm a pvp server but the alliance on my realm are pretty dead so its rare to run into them..besides in case I do I always camp 1 of my 70s where I'm currently questing at anyways. =]Hero said:
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Is it easy to find 2 duel weapons to use as fury though without instances? I could respec to fury at 40 I guess. I like to quest to 60 in 2-3 weeks and instances xp rate is too low to waste my time in ;( I've been using the Whirlwind axe with savagy enchant since 30 and its owned so much.trh said:
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
DarkAngelYuna said:Is it easy to find 2 duel weapons to use as fury though without instances? I could respec to fury at 40 I guess. I like to quest to 60 in 2-3 weeks and instances xp rate is too low to waste my time in ;( I've been using the Whirlwind axe with savagy enchant since 30 and its owned so much.
thrash blade or w/e is around that level i think, and i'm sure you can find something else. Also the MH / OH from ZF isn't bad if i remember correctly. What server you on? alliance are dead on mine too
.DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Demon Soul =[TheDrizzlerJ11 said:thrash blade or w/e is around that level i think, and i'm sure you can find something else. Also the MH / OH from ZF isn't bad if i remember correctly. What server you on? alliance are dead on mine too
I LOVE my feral druid. So easy to level and kinda fun in PvP too.DarkAngelYuna said:
and to be honest, the druid doesn't really become fun till level 30+ so you've still got a bit of grinding to do. don't expect it to become fun as soon as you get catform... you need to level up a bit to get some useful abilities in catform.
I only agree with #2. It becomes instant cast only with talent points, that's what balances it compared to druid travel form.firex said:
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Hero said:
Solo Warriors don't really go by the rage bar, it's really your HP bar; hence, unlike the other classes that fight, escape, or heal back up with their other bar, the Warrior is in deep shit at half health when jumped by adds/gankers.
I sorta disaggre about no MS; if you do any pvp at all during your leveling (PvP daily ftw), you'll want that MS (which is not terrible for leveling AT ALL).
bengraven
Member
DarkAngelYuna said:
It's so gear dependant, though, which could by why you're having a fairly easy time with it. If I had a 70 sugar daddy to pay for my baby warrior's clothes, I probably would have done a bit better.
But that said, yeah, he wasn't so bad at all. It's nice to handle 2 enemies at once on you without panicking. Dual wielding is the way to go for pve, fury.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Actually most of my gear is outdated. At 38 most of my armor is greens from high 20s to low 30s. The only great piece of gear I have is the whirlwind axe with savagery =]bengraven said:
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Ya, i just bought http://thottbot.com/i13018 on the AH for only 15g incase I stay arms. That'll last me until 51 when I can get the Ice Barbed Spear =]bengraven said:Well, gear dependency is more of an instance/raid/pvp issue anyway and you said you were mainly soloing.
But that axe is fantastic if you don't want dual swords. I used that for a large part of my 30s, early 40s.
Liferebooted
Banned
I've also been thinking about leveling a warrior lately. I've read the warrior forums plus a couple guides online at leveling warriors. So far it seems that fury isn't the only great leveling tree anymore. Arms with a 2hander seems to be the most desired spec for leveling if you'll be soloing. You can easily get a great blue or purple 2 hander for all level ranges off the AH or simple solo quests. DW fury weapons are a lot harder to come by on your own.
I found leveling fury to be a little faster than arms - but I kind of abandoned my warrior at level 63 in order to build up my other characters.
Second wind in Arms is great for grinding mobs that give you a stun every now and then, though. Adds a little rage and health and reduces the amount of downtime.
Second wind in Arms is great for grinding mobs that give you a stun every now and then, though. Adds a little rage and health and reduces the amount of downtime.
SatelliteOfLove said:
If we're talking about straight PVE-grinding MS isn't too bad but with Imp. Slam + Bloodthirst you'll be doing yourself a much better service. Also, I wouldn't recommend Dual Wield until you get to Outlands, as you're not going to find any +hit gear to help you. Throughout the game there are excellent 2H weapons like Whirlwind Axe and Ice Barbed Spear which are amazing if you get them as soon as you can.
With Improved Slam you can essentially double your DPS. Get the AddOn Quartz which can display your Swing Timer.
What should happen is something like:
White Attack, then as soon as it hits activate Improved Slam, .5 seconds later you have an attack that hits harder than your White Attack for a marginal rage cost.
Ideally you'd have a rotation like:
Bloodthirst -> White Attack -> Improved Slam -> White Attack
The problem with going Arms for leveling is that your only real attack is Mortal Strike and Heroic Strike. Heroic Strike is pretty horrible for damage per rage point. You could use regular Slam, but that's 1.5 second cast time and you lose a lot of the efficiency.
Edit:
Not to mention in Fury you get Sweeping Strikes, which if used properly is godly for grinding.
bengraven
Member
Hero said:
As said earlier, I'm hybrid Arms/Fury, but I find:
Bloodthirst - attack - mortal strike - attack - mortal strike cools down then hit it again- etc.
works very nice. You're getting a free attack basically. I can take out those 72 ogres above Shat with less than 1/4 life lost if done right. And Execute Execute Execute when it comes up.
bengraven said:
I don't mean to be a dick, but the past few posts regarding warrior spec and viability have been about PVE leveling a warrior. If you're grinding on ogres at level 70 that's great for you but you can't have Bloodthirst and MS until you're at the max level cap. I'm giving suggestions on what to spec for leveling. Do you understand?
Oni Link 666
Member
I just got my epic flying mount on my BE and started doing the Netherwing quests. That makes it my second character with an epic flying mount. It took about a week and a half to come up with the 3k I needed but I also didn't make any money during AV weekend and spent a lot of money on enchants and gems for the PVP gear I got. Questing at 70 and mining is where it's at btw. Skinning is pretty worthless at 70 since the skill to turn scraps and Knothide into heavy knothide and regular are on leatherworking and no one wants to pay anything good for most of the "rare" hides you can get except for Clefthoof.
just make sure to get a good 2h weapon until level 40ish, then get a pair of slow weapons you can dual wield after that. No swords (since shamans can't use swords) but axes, maces and fist weapons are all ok. You want a relatively slow (2.4 or greater is ideal) speed offhand so your offhand strikes don't proc windfury as much.
What is your class?JoeFu said:
Most melee characters have an instant attack that deals weapon damage (PLUS some amount), at the cost of rage/mana/energy. If you have a fast weapon in your main hand, you are wasting that rage/mana/energy because that fast weapon doesn't deal a lot of damage in a single hit. A slow weapon may not strike as frequently, but it kind of makes up for it with the various instant attacks that have higher damage.
slower weapons of the same level/quality as a faster one will usually hit harder, in order for their DPS to be equal to a faster weapon. For a lot of skills you want them to hit as hard as possible, or in the case of dual wielding, you want skills like heroic strike/sinister strike to hit with the slower weapon because it will do more damage than a faster one.
In the case of tanking, you want a 2.0 speed (average, 1.6 is about as fast as you'd want and 2.2 is about as slow as you'd want) weapon so you can keep your threat up from melee attacks.
In the case of a shaman, it's simple: Windfury has this hidden 3 second cooldown between procs. Since windfury is the best source of dps from auto-attacking that a shaman has, you want your offhand to be slow so your main hand (which will hit harder since offhand attacks always do half what they would do if they were in your main hand) will proc windfury for bigger damage.
edit: also, although this may not be an issue now, a slower weapon makes it easier to use your special without resetting your swing timer.
In the case of tanking, you want a 2.0 speed (average, 1.6 is about as fast as you'd want and 2.2 is about as slow as you'd want) weapon so you can keep your threat up from melee attacks.
In the case of a shaman, it's simple: Windfury has this hidden 3 second cooldown between procs. Since windfury is the best source of dps from auto-attacking that a shaman has, you want your offhand to be slow so your main hand (which will hit harder since offhand attacks always do half what they would do if they were in your main hand) will proc windfury for bigger damage.
edit: also, although this may not be an issue now, a slower weapon makes it easier to use your special without resetting your swing timer.
Oni Link 666
Member
When it comes to Rogues it's not about the speed of the mainhand weapon though. It's more about the weapon damage. For example, I can get a 2.90 or so mainhand but it's probably not going to be better than the 2.60 Gladiator's blade and that same 2.60 is not just as good as the 2.60 Merciless Gladiator's blade simply because of the speed. You pretty much always want a fast off-hand though because you want that off-hand to be hitting all the time to apply poisons and proc stuff like combat potency.
BigJonsson
Member
Ugh
Ring of blood
my group tried 7 times and had help from 70s and still couldnt beat the last fight.....the healer sucked assss
Ring of blood
my group tried 7 times and had help from 70s and still couldnt beat the last fight.....the healer sucked assss
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Railer said:
Elemental is fun if you can afford enchants and getting the best gear.
My level 70 shaman has been my main for this past 3 years, started out as enhancement, then elemental, then finally resto. For soloing/farming, enhancement is your best bet. You will want to get the slowest dual weapons you can get because of the hidden 3 second windfury cooldown procs. The slowest main/off/one-hand weapons are 2.7 seconds, unless they added something new.
All of my enchancement, elemental, restoration are kara-level epics now heh. I pretty much raided everything pre2.3. Right now I am working on getting S3 gears. It's pretty hard doing it 2s since my 3s friends never seem to log in at the same time.
All of my enchancement, elemental, restoration are kara-level epics now heh. I pretty much raided everything pre2.3. Right now I am working on getting S3 gears. It's pretty hard doing it 2s since my 3s friends never seem to log in at the same time.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
So, I hit 40.. replaced all my mail with plate except my shoulders. Armor went up by 600-700 and my ap by a little over 100.. this is nice.
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