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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, I don't get it either.LAUGHTREY said:
Raid comp isn't all that important on that fight. That's one thing I like about Wrath raiding, as long as you got your necessary classes, you can kind of pick up the best players/dps after that.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Virtually every 25m raid will have a MS, tank heals and raid heals, especially on a Heroic attempt.LAUGHTREY said:
I guess I meant more that DKs and Rogues don't really provide some stacking benefit on that fight a la Resto Shamans in the Sunwell. Maybe if you had like 3 Unholy DK tanks to stack Anti Magic Zone or something, but yeah.
jim-jam bongs
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A friend of mine is interviewing Kalgan in a few hours, he'll send me the recording once it's done. I'll let you guys know if anything interesting comes out of it.
jim-jam bongs
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Retro said:
What
The
Fuck
I just skyped someone and asked him if there was anything he wanted to ask and he replied "Ask him to show on the dolly where the bad Paladin touched him." :lol
Tom Chilton / Kalgan was already interviewed on The Instance podcast this week. It was 15 minutes of boring damage control over the Pet Store. I hope your friend does better than they did, since it was pretty clear he'd been instructed to stay on message about the dumb pet uproar rather than talk about the game.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'd believe you but, junior member.Xabora said:
So yeah.
Join Date: 10-07-2006Angry Grimace said:
Take your pick.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/11375/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/22509/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/ | http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/reports/
How are you STILL a junior member? The mods must hate you!Xabora said:Join Date: 10-07-2006
Take your pick.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/11375/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/22509/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/ | http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/reports/
*whistles*Trasher said:
Anywho, I find this to be funny.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677230964&sid=1&pageNo=1
It wouldn't be a bad deal except for the fact that if you need someone to run you through ToC then you don't have any source of Triumph emblems other than the occaisional VoA pug or Heroic Daily. If they wanted 16K G just for two set pieces that'd be a great price.....but since you'd have to spend all kinds of time and effort getting the emblems, it's useless. This is of course from the perspective of someone that doesn't raid at all, and amasses enough money that I don't care about literally paying for character progression.Xabora said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I was just funnen yeh.Xabora said:Join Date: 10-07-2006
Take your pick.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/11375/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/22509/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/ | http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/14624/reports/
SatelliteOfLove
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border said:
It's ToC. Even AM Horde side had 2 guild led pugs. That, and it's ToC.
I don't know what that means because I have never set foot inside ToC. My point was just that it seemed like a decent enough deal (if you were actually getting Tier pieces rather than a token that needs emblems to go with it). The regular BoE crafted stuff at that iLevel sells for more than 6-8K on the AH....so 16K for a couple tier pieces and a couple non-set pieces would actually be great.
Compared to having to deal with slow pugs and wasting weeklong lockouts on fail-groups, it sounds even better actually. The appeal is in only having to show up once or twice and get some stuff you'd like, rather than wrangling a group of pug misfits week after week and hoping you win a roll.
Compared to having to deal with slow pugs and wasting weeklong lockouts on fail-groups, it sounds even better actually. The appeal is in only having to show up once or twice and get some stuff you'd like, rather than wrangling a group of pug misfits week after week and hoping you win a roll.
jim-jam bongs
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border said:
Just finished listening to the recording, you'll be happy to know there was nothing about the Pet Store :lol There wasn't really much new in there, it was a 5th anniversary chat so he talked mostly about the evolution of the game so far, and not as much about the future.
One thing that did surprise me is that the classic Blackrock instances (including MC) will still be around in Cataclysm. I assumed they were removing them now that there is a new instance there that's from a later timeline.
It was a good talk if you've been playing for a while actually, he made a few interesting observations about players and explained a few of the major changes like revamping the honour system from his perspective. I'll post the link once the article is up.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
My guild is getting pretty shitty.
I had to quit on a 10m ToC run.
Yes. 10 man.
NORMAL.
Holy mother of God.
Even if you do ridiculous DPS, it doesn't matter if you're the only one :lol
I had to quit on a 10m ToC run.
Yes. 10 man.
NORMAL.
Holy mother of God.
Even if you do ridiculous DPS, it doesn't matter if you're the only one :lol
border said:
Just means you got there late. They still have to recruit dps. Those prices in that post Xab put up are absurd for TOC25 normal gear. The place is pugged an uncountable amount of times by different groups on Greymane alliance.
Angry Grimace said:
Ill admit I was in this spot a few weeks ago, but then again Im a fresh server and faction transfer to Greymane. I got into one single successful ToC25 run and now that I can link the achievement and do good dps I can run these any day of the week I decide to log on and hop in the LFG queue for it. Lots of guilds on our server pug 9 or so spots for their weekly runs, and tons more just run pugs for it all week and especially on the weekend. All I do now is when I get an invite, I ask the raid leader (before joining) "Are you requiring the achievement from every member before letting them in?" If they say yes, Ill ask for the vent info. If they have a vent going AND are requiring the achievement I join up. Haven't had a problem yet. If its a guild run filling spots open for a run, I dont even ask, I just go, those are always successful.
I'll probably never complete Anub on Heroic 25m mode (only about 3 or so pugs ran by well known people on my server clear it weekly from what I hear) but clearing the 25m mode, 10 man mode, Voa 10 and 25, Ony 10 and 25 and a chunk of Uld 25 if I happen to be playing ALOT weekly WITHOUT having to be guilded and on some raid schedule is perfect for me. Was just what I was looking for. Getting to see all of the content without being tied to the game.
jim-jam bongs said:
Sounds cool -- will the audio go up as a podcast, or is this an interview for print/online?
I've been playing since about 6 months after launch, so I'd definitely like to hear about when and how things changed behind the scenes. Obviously the first major shift towards the current philosophy was the change to PVP/Honor, given that the ranking system rewarded massive time investment and punished anyone who failed to make a massive time investment. Now there are just rewards, no punishments.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You might be a sad pandaren when Icecrown comes out. Ulduar, the last real raid that Blizzard put out there, was not really puggable to the end on 25m mode. Problem is with me that basically nobody is playing anymore. The average skill level is in the shitter, but gear scores are up because ToC is a shithole loot pinata.Puncture said:
On Heroic Anub 25 you need multiple DKs to pull frost down in precise positions and multiple paladins to BoP pursued targets. Depending on your strat you may also need uncrushable block-capable tanks. Even though it may be the only such ToC encounter, you can't walk into it with a random raidcomp and expect to do well.Angry Grimace said:
Puncture said:
Like I said, the BoE crafted gear from ToC easily goes for as much on my server....the cloth and plate items are running like 8-10K, and their Filthy Poor package gives you two high level drops for 16K (plus Emblems and 2 Trophies items).
There is a convenience fee that I'd think would be worth it for non-raiders. Yes I could pug ToC, but then I'd be rolling against 24 other people for Trophies, and at least 4-7 other people for the 2 non-set pieces you are guaranteed with your payment. Exactly how long would it take me to get the same stuff I can acquire for a simple fee? And what happens with a fail-pug? They beat the first couple easy bosses, then break up after a few wipes or when an important tank/healer DCs....then you're locked out for a week. I don't find the price unreasonable considering you get to skip all the headaches of a 25-man pug.
Maybe ToC25 is just faceroll easy, but even then you have to win the rolls for gear. With the time you save just paying for a run, you can be out there in your regular routine leveling alts, running dailies, making money on the AH. Ultimately it evens out, I feel. Obviously the players on the bleeding edge aren't going to see the upside, but that's because they can probably burn through the place in a couple hours every week and don't have to sit around Dalaran while a PUG leader spams trade for tanks/healers of questionable quality.
I've said it before in this thread, but there is a point in this game where money becomes utterly useless and cannot be used for character progression. If you can weasel your way around that and still buy progression with all that useless currency in your pocket, I don't see why you shouldn't. Ultimately it's a question of how much time your gold is worth, and I suppose my threshold is higher than others.
As for why you should care about gear, well the upgrades are nice for both questing and heroics. And of course money is transferable in a way that gear and badges are not. If I have an alt that just hit 80, you can believe I'm throwing down a good deal of money to get him up to the current level of content. I've never bought a run through anything, but have no problem stocking up on AH Epics. I like all my characters to at least be at the point where they won't be shamed in a VoA or Naxx pug.
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Angry Grimace said:
Eh-yup. I have had so many old friends on 4 servers, 3 Horde, 1 Alliance, and my friends list in those are/were so barren. Any people new to us are actually from like, Bronzebeard in 2005-2008, or Madoran 2004-2006, and had extensive RPG time before that. AM went from 4k during peak in January to 2.5k during peak in October when we jetted to Skullcrusher.
Instead, they're being replaced with people who have no real clue as to how they are to function, even lower than us in 2004, due to, quite frankly, a basic loss of a foundation; they haven't a background in RPGs or PC gaming, almost. You can tell by their play.
I've been under the impression that Blizz has been fishing for people outside the MMO crowd, even outside RPGers, and PC gamers for this expansion for quite a while now...
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You're way off base from the point that was being made there.thatbox said:
There's a big difference between "random raidcomp" and what we were referring to there.
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3.3 needs to come out faster.
3.3 needs to come out faster.
uhm... is anyone else getting totally weird text in this post from Xabora?Xabora said:̸̹̦̦̱̖̻̠͔̝̈́̾̉͗̆̄̃͗̄͠v̵̐̉̉ͤ̈ͧ̓̂̿͡Ò̧̡͈̼̜͕̯̝͉̣͕̳̤̮͊̊̎̽̎̄̿̐̄ͮ́͝M̸̡̙̖̥̠̓̌͒ͩ̐ͧ́Ģ͛ͦ̊ͯ͛̄̌҉̵̣̹̳ ̶͙̹͔̀̈͂̉ ̸̹̦̦̱̖̻̠͔̝̈́̾̉͗̆̄̃͗̄͠v̵̐̉̉ͤ̈ͧ̓̂̿͡
3.3 needs to come out faster.
wtf is that?
Nah, you said "raid comp isn't all that important on that fight" "especially on heroic." I'm in one of thousands of guilds currently bashing our faces up against this fight and we've had to call the raid before because our block tank couldn't make it, we've had to swap out one of our mages (very likely the highest-DPS mage on the server) for his DK alt to place frost, we've had to bring in my paladin over my priest to get an extra BoP and everyone in the raid is respecced for AoE.Angry Grimace said:
If you'd left off the heroic bit you'd have been right, since you could probably do every fight in normal with 25 of the same class, but acting like all the guilds cockblocked by Anub don't have to take some relatively strong (for WotLK) measures with raidcomp to ensure a chance at success rubbed me the wrong way.
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