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ShallNoiseUpon
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Son of Godzilla said:
I think MM is probably worse. You end up wasting 3 or 4 points into talents that are useless on bosses, then end up spending at least 33 into MM. The hunter trees (except BM) are a fucking mess.
UnblessedSoul
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Keep in mind some classes are a few builds behind which include paladins
GC said they are going to turn holy shield into a short cooldown
GC said they are going to turn holy shield into a short cooldown
Judging how buggy the patch is, this is all very early >_<
Servers are crashing like crazy.
Think they mainly released it because there were lots of people at the cap, 82, and they wanted to start testing Deepholm.
And yea, some people are going so nuts over this on other forums, but its like the first build of the beta, just came out of alpha, and they just released the talent over haul and its going to change a hellllllllllll of a lot before release... They dont even have players at lvl cap yet, 85, where lots of the... 'real' testing will happen for builds and talents and stuff.
Servers are crashing like crazy.
Think they mainly released it because there were lots of people at the cap, 82, and they wanted to start testing Deepholm.
And yea, some people are going so nuts over this on other forums, but its like the first build of the beta, just came out of alpha, and they just released the talent over haul and its going to change a hellllllllllll of a lot before release... They dont even have players at lvl cap yet, 85, where lots of the... 'real' testing will happen for builds and talents and stuff.
Seeing lots of complaints about the PVP points in trees... I seem to recall that one of the bullet points included when they unveiled the new 31-point system was that they wanted all trees to have viable PVP paths in the trees, so people wouldn't occupy one of their two talent builds with a PVP spec. They intend for talent builds to be generalized for more than one job.
The problem with that concept is that the general WoW community, led by the twinks at popular forums like Elitist Jerks, reject it out of hand. Anything that isn't specialized to focus on a small set of capabilities with laser precision is considered 'gimped', and since these are the guys who obsess the most over the inner machinery of the game the broader WoW community listens to their advice and adopts their values. This is the way it's always been.
The problem with that concept is that the general WoW community, led by the twinks at popular forums like Elitist Jerks, reject it out of hand. Anything that isn't specialized to focus on a small set of capabilities with laser precision is considered 'gimped', and since these are the guys who obsess the most over the inner machinery of the game the broader WoW community listens to their advice and adopts their values. This is the way it's always been.
ShallNoiseUpon
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Bisnic said:
No shit. That doesn't mean that we can't analyze and criticize how it is now. I agree when people are like "OMG HUNTERS R RUINED 4EVER !1!11!!!one!11!," it is an overreaction, but some trees are currently terrible at this point in time.
Edit: Also, what else are we going to talk about? :lol
UnblessedSoul said:
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968669894/holy-shield/
I suspect the talent that is currently called Holy Shield has become a bit conflated with this; I reckon that the cooldown ability will be separate from the uncrittable ability, the latter of which will still be a passive talent.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't care in the least that the talents are rough; they aren't going to ship them out the door that way. I just think it's kind of obvious they were full of shit. :lolBisnic said:
SuperAndroid17
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Any new music rips yet?
The Lamonster
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So what is the most realistic release date for Cata at this point?
notworksafe
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People thought September was a possibility? Funny.
notworksafe
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Just Vanilla for the New Old World. Cata will bring Archeology, Goblin/Worgen, and everything after level 80.
The Lamonster said:
[Shakes the 8-ball]
October 25th!
I think it'll be after Blizzcon - allowing the release to ride on the Blizzcon news wave, and I think Blizzard would want to avoid the negative press of reaching the two-year anniversary of Wrath's release without releasing the following expansion pack, which means they can't stray *too* far into November.
I don't think releasing before Blizzcon is impossible, mind you; I'm certainly hoping for a September-ish release. But we'll see.
A thought does spring to mind that, given the current release rate in-game, the 30% ICC buff should be hitting on the week starting July 20th (Holy hell, that's next week!). I wonder, as a last-ditch "okay, here's the final opportunity to polish off the LK while he's still at least vaguely current", we could see patch 4.0 therefore four weeks after that, at some point towards the end of August?
Then a month of launch event content would see a release in late September, by that measurement. I quite like that plan!
NB: Do bear in mind that I have, in the past, predicted the Cataclysm release date in this thread, and every prior guess has been atrocious. This is likely to follow suit.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Let's pray they remove the requirement to buy TBC, WLK AND Cataclysm just to play the full game.Garryk said:
The Lamonster
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My goal is to have the Green Proto Drake before Cata. Pray for me GAF
I don't know that they've said.Garryk said:
I expect you'll still be able to buy Vanilla only to play 1-60 content. The Cata changes to the old world will be pushed through as content patch 4.0 and available to everyone, with or without the expansion pack. The limits to running without Cata will be similar to running without TBC or Wrath: No access to the new races, inability to level past the lowest expansion pack you don't have (limiting you to 60 for Vanilla), no access to the new 81-85 zones or the Goblin and Worgen starting zones.
RiskyChris
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Bisnic said:
Heh, this is me in closed beta.
"Blizzard can do no wrong dudes, give them time! It's beta!"
lol
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Bisnic said:
With an authenticator.
notworksafe
Member
Yeah, some sort of super Battle Chest with every expansion and an Authenticator for $100 would be a pretty good deal. I'm still pretty sure that Blizzard will include an Authenticator with every box copy of Cataclysm, though.
The Lamonster
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Do you guys believe in the authenticator process? I have been apprehensive to get one because I've heard of people who get them end up getting hacked soon afterwards.ShallNoiseUpon said:
notworksafe
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I've not heard about that. I know a lot of hackers attach them to accounts they hack to keep the real owners out. Maybe that's what you've been hearing?The Lamonster said:
The Lamonster
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Oh I've already spent a lot of time hunting it. I'm worried that if I ever see it, I won't be able to defeat it. Is it possible with a lvl 80 with 3839 gearscore?JesseZao said:
ShallNoiseUpon
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The Lamonster said:
The crypto behind it is 100% secure, assuming no user error
this is the important part
HarryDemeanor
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Picture of Cho'gall. His right head is funky.
HarryDemeanor
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Whoops, double post.
The Lamonster said:
Why would people get hacked easier with an additional layer of security applied to their account? Don't listen to /2.
Anyways, still not seeing the "Fun" and "Cool" talents that were supposed to be in these new trees. They just lowered the scale of them, that's all. Boring. Cookie cutter is more prevalent than ever. And I don't believe some trees are much further along than others here, as basically every tree in the game looks to suffer the same problems.
notworksafe
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Yep, without a problem. People were getting it back when Wrath first launched so you shouldn't have any issues.The Lamonster said:
The Lamonster
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I assume that means being the victim of a key logger or something? I have Microsoft Security Essentials and do a full scan every few days. Is that enough to keep me safe from a "man-in-the-middle" attack?ShallNoiseUpon said:
Also, the authenticators are sold out. Any idea on how often they re-stock these things?
notworksafe
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Essentially, yes that's what it means. The authenticator makes something like that harder because the code on it changes very often (every 60sec I think). If you keep MSE updated and scan often you should be fine. Just don't visit shady websites (i.e. batttlenet.com, wurldofwowcraft.com) and you'll be fine.
Not sure how often they restock the physical units, but I imagine it's pretty often. There is a version for iPhone/iPod/Android (check iTunes/Android Market) that is free and there are super cheap versions for many other mobile phones as well.
http://mobile.blizzard.com/us-en/t401-c12902/applications-battle-net-mobile-authenticator
The Lamonster said:
It's really up to you and what you do on your computer.
I only have a free anti-virus(avast), an anti-spyware(spybot) that i use only a few times a year and an authenticator. My account was never hacked in the 4½ years i've been playing and only bought an authenticator this year because i was kinda scared of losing so much stuff even though nothing happened before, i didn't want to take any risk.
Confused101
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My birthday.Evlar said:
That would be a nice present.Anyway, I guess I won't try to gear up to do some of the current end-game content. It seems like I should wait until Cata drops and replace my current quest greens with new quest greens. I wouldn't even know where to start gearing up anyway. And even if I did, it looks like most stuff will be replaceable immediately unless you're in T9 or T10 which I will probably never obtain, haha.
I would like to get a nice very fast flying mount though. Any tips? Ya know, beside buying one. =)
Interesting that after all of the events of the last several issues of the comic that set up certain parts of Cataclysm, they're keeping Med'an himself out of it.mclem said:
Not that I'm complaining.
The Lamonster
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Buying one is much easier than "earning" one. You can get the Violet Proto Drake by doing all of the holiday achievements. It'll take a year but you won't have to rely on much luck or ridiculous timesinks. Maybe someone else has a better idea but if you don't want to buy one, I'd say go for that.Confused101 said:
ShallNoiseUpon
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Confused101 said:
Heroic COS speed run (almost every run is one now) will get you the Bronze Drake. It should be noted that the expensive part of epic flying is the training, not the mount.
The Lamonster
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That 5k took me FOREVER dammit :lolShallNoiseUpon said:
Confused101 said:
If you can gear up enough for Heroics, pretty much everyone already has a Bronze Drake. Just run the Culling of Stratholme instance, I think even PUGs can clear up to the Corruptor in time.
Other than that, you'll be farming or waiting a year doing a ton of terrible, boring holiday achievements.
Sciz said:
Because he's like officially-sanctioned fanfiction, the worst kind of Mary Sue this side of Rhonin. He's a Sha-mage-adin, the long lost offspring of two central characters who would probably never hook up, and oh yeah, he's the fucking Keanu Reeves of Azeroth, complete with his own prophecy. And he's like 16.
He's not in WoW because even WoW players have the intellectual capacity to call bullshit on him. /lolore
Confused101
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I have no problems with buying one but I wanted to see what my options were for something a little more interesting. Only 1.5k more to go for the training. That's definitely the worst part about the the whole thing.
So what would you guys consider to be appropriately geared for heroic CoS? Mind you, I'm definitely no where close considering I'm only 75 is quest greens. Thanks for the insight!
So what would you guys consider to be appropriately geared for heroic CoS? Mind you, I'm definitely no where close considering I'm only 75 is quest greens. Thanks for the insight!
notworksafe
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There's always the Outland reputation epic mounts and the crafted flyers. I never see those anymore, even though they are relatively easy to get.Confused101 said:
It's one of the easier ones. Some blue dungeon/quest gear would be fine.Confused101 said:
The Lamonster
Member
And if you're just a DPS class, I'd say jump in now and the other group members will support you.notworksafe said:
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