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Worst Oscar Snub Ever?
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Fixed2BeBroken
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levious said:
:lol
thats classic..
"black people fighting for thier freedom, or black man driving around white lady....damn those niggers! give the oscar to the black man drivingaround the white lady!"
damn cracker ass crackas
LinesInTheSand
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Pretty much anything having to do with Scorcese...
most notably the snubs of Goodfellas and Taxi Driver
most notably the snubs of Goodfellas and Taxi Driver
Duck of Death
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ManaByte said:
:lol :lol :lol
Do you like anything other than science-fiction?
As far as Oscar snubs, I don't really care. They're the Academy's awards, they can give them to whoever they want.
RonaldoSan
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E.T. is a better film than Ghandi. Biopic = Oscar Win. Annie Hall is better than Star Wars. Braveheart is ... well... not as good as I thought it was when I was 14.
1964...My Fair Lady over Dr. Strangelove...
Complete list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture
Complete list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture
I loved Forrest Gump. Maybe love. Haven't seen it in years. Still, I'd agree that at least Shawshank Redemption is better.
Alright, it's been said before, but I think your taste in movies SUUUUUUCKS. I wouldn't bother saying this if you would just stop being so contentious. Not that you mind.Matlock said:In most recent memory, Sean Penn over Johnny Depp was pretty fucking horrible.
'course, Depp's going to pick up a golden statue this year as an apology.
edit: let's look at the past few years, shall we?
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TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Most of what I'd say has been covered.
As for this year, I'm fucking amazed that A Series of Unfortunate Events didn't even get NOMINATED in the Best Visual Effects category.
I assumed that they tweaked real baby footage, like the talking-acting animal work in Babe. I never even suspected a fully-CG baby until I read the Cinefex article. The thing is in dozens of shots, sometimes full-frame, and... it's just sell-your-soul-to-the-devil good.
As for this year, I'm fucking amazed that A Series of Unfortunate Events didn't even get NOMINATED in the Best Visual Effects category.
I assumed that they tweaked real baby footage, like the talking-acting animal work in Babe. I never even suspected a fully-CG baby until I read the Cinefex article. The thing is in dozens of shots, sometimes full-frame, and... it's just sell-your-soul-to-the-devil good.
RonaldoSan
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Edward Norton not winning an oscar for his performance in American History X.
Apple Jax said:
I guess I was wrong about them being in the same year, '90's are just a blur to me...LOL (just checked with IMDB, oh well). The thing is that I've often heard people praising Silence of the Lambs and then admitting that they'd never seen Seven and I would always be like: wtf? 'coz I always thought that 7 beat SotL at it's own game in a completely original way (4 years later). That all said and done I think 7 should have at least been nominated for something 1995? Maybe 'Best Ending' or something.
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Ignatz Mouse
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That Braveheart won anything is a crime. What a miserable movie.
ET is also a lousy movie. I know I'm in the minority, but it was just sentimental, manipulative crap. Ghandi is a manupulative film as well, but miles, miles better than ET. SOme of the scenes is it are just too powerful to forget.
ET is also a lousy movie. I know I'm in the minority, but it was just sentimental, manipulative crap. Ghandi is a manupulative film as well, but miles, miles better than ET. SOme of the scenes is it are just too powerful to forget.
MrPing1000
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I wish they'd stop screwing Jim Carrey shud have gotten it for either Truman show or Man on the Moon
Matlock said:In most recent memory, Sean Penn over Johnny Depp was pretty fucking horrible.
'course, Depp's going to pick up a golden statue this year as an apology.
edit: let's look at the past few years, shall we?
2003: Chicago
Apologetic award put towards a musical for the past year.
2002: A Beautiful Mind
Horrible movie in all aspects--Gosford Park and/or Moulin Rouge! were far more deserving than the heap of made-for-tv-whitewashed BM the winner was.
2001: Gladiator
I'm still calling bullshit on this one, as Gladiator was a mediocre film with a great production around it.
2000: American Beauty
Average movie that tries to make a worthwhile observation, and completely robbed the Green Mile.
1999: Shakespeare in Love
I can't really argue much with this one.
1998: Titanic
Who really gives a fuck about this movie anymore? Honestly? Although debatable, the one that should have won was Boogie Nights.
1997: The English Patient
Same feeling as Titanic! Can anyone explain why the stronger film, Jerry MacGuire didn't win? Weak year all-around, but jeez.
1996. Braveheart
Decent enough film, but this was also the year that included Casino, Leaving Las Vegas, and The Usual Suspects. Amazingly, all of those latter films were left out of the best picture noms.
1995. Forrest Gump
I really like Forrest Gump, I admit. I also admit that it's fucking madness to say that it fairly beat Pulp Fiction and the Shawshank Redemption.
1994. Schindler's List
I...kind of agree. Not a film I liked much, but eh.
1993. Unforgiven
I can dig this pick, but Al Pacino winning an Oscar for his role in Scent of a Woman over Denzel in Malcolm X isn't even cool.
1992. Silence of the Lambs
Great pick, yet again. Screwjob this year goes to Jack Palance winning an award for City Slickers.
1991. Dances with Wolves
Dunno what happened here, I can only guess that Goodfellas' votes were pulled away a bit by Godfather 3. Just thank god Dick Tracy won the art awards this year, or else it would have been real shitty.
And that's a wrap! Or something.
Also of note: 1990 had Driving Miss Daisy beating out Born on the Fourth of July. That's wrong on so many levels.
I think it was a apologetic award. He didn't win anything for his work in The Godfather Trilogy and some others I can't remember at the moment.
Ignatz Mouse said:
you may be certifiably crazy. not the greatest movie ever made but certainly the best of the nominations that year....
All stories are manipulative. a manipulation to side with a character that previously you had no knowledge on. whether obvious or subtly, a you are always being manipulated by a story.
that being said, ET never pandered. It never did something set outside of the bounds of the story and never broke stride in telling it. It is arguably one of the last great original fairy tales to be told. It is no more overly sentimental than any other great heart warming tale.
Bud said:
I think Raoul Duke summed up my feelings nicely about the academy. The more I go over past ceremonies, the more apparent that politics mostly dictate things. You get your award when it's your "time" and not neccesarily over the merit of your work for that year.
I think the most disappointing award I've seen the academy give is the Best Actor award to Denzel for Training Day. It was a solid performance from him but in the end it falls short the work he did on Malcom X. Furthermore, I doubt that many of us will remember Training Day years from while Malcom X will continue a play an important role in setting the record straight about one the most infamous and misunderstood militant activists of the Civil Rights movement.
Lastly, I think the biggest slap to the face was that year seemed like thin attempt to make up for sleeping on black performers for decades. That pretty much cheapened Denzel's award beyond repair in my eyes--he should be recognized for his work and not because of his color. Washington is definately the bigger man than I am because I would not have shown up to the show at all if I was nominated.
Team Rancid
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For me its always been Scorsese being beaten for direction by KEVIN COSTNER in 1990. Goodfellas vs Dances w/ Wolves??!?!
Think about it. Martin Scorsese doesn't have an oscar for direction, but KEVIN COSTNER does? Truly disturbung.
This year the only nom snub I see is leaving Paul Giamatti out and nominating CLINT? Ouch.
Think about it. Martin Scorsese doesn't have an oscar for direction, but KEVIN COSTNER does? Truly disturbung.
This year the only nom snub I see is leaving Paul Giamatti out and nominating CLINT? Ouch.
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What's with the Gladiator hate? I love that movie...
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Fight for Freeform said:
well.. its not, that said.. thats a pretty ridiculous reason for not getting a nom.
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TAJ said:
yeah. i was really surprised to find out the baby was CG.. that movie had some great visual effects. it really caught me off-guard
Ignatz Mouse
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borghe said:
Apollo 13, Babe, and Sense and Sensibility are ALL better movies than Braveheart. I would have given the award to Sense and Sensibility, personally. I didn;t see il Postino.
Braveheart has some ridiculous acting, terrible, terrible script, and some damn fine battle scenes. If the award were for battle scenes, I could see the point. Can anybody watch the cartoon character that is supposed to be the King and still keep a reasonable Suspension of Disbelief? Never mind that it traches history-- that's a reasonable offense in the service of art (see Elizabeth)-- but to do so specifically to pander to some Scottish patriotism masking a rather weak production is a crime.
ET? I didn't see it until I was an adult. It had smarmy, awful children in it (Spielberg should never be allowed to film a child again) and was cute and coy to a fault. It's a kids movie, and that's fine, but it's not as well made a movie as Ghandi, or heck, most of Speildberg's other work, most of which I am not a fan of.
Here are a few snubs I can think of....
Best Supporting Actor: Benicio DelTorro in Traffic beats out Jaquin Phoenix in Gladiator. Sorry, regardless of what you may think of Gladiator Phoenix was bloody brilliant in this movie! He should've won over DelTorro.
Val Kilmer not even getting a nomination for Best Supporting Actor as Doc Holiday in Tombstone. I am still scratching my head over this one.
Sean Penn not winning best actor for "Dead Man Walking." This movie moves me quite like no other.
Denzel winning best actor for "Training Day" but not for Malcom X. Why? Training Day was a horrible movie and Denzel was basically asked to play a [insert racist name here].
Spike Lee not getting ANY Oscar respect whatsoever.
Star Wars loses to Annie Hall for best picture. No way!
Alec Guinness for best supporting actor in Star Wars.
Titanic over L.A. Confidential
Gene Wilder - best actor for Willie Wonka ( I don't even think he was nominated).
I would like to also take this opportunity to express my discontent with the Academy for failing to acknowledge comedic performances. Without question there should be a best comedic performance category added. There have been so many brilliant performances over the years that have simply gone unnoticed because they were comedies.
Cleavon Little- Blazing Saddles
Bill Murray - Caddyshack
John Belushi - Animal House
Christ Farley - Tommy Boy
Jim Carey - Dumb and Dumber
Ben Stiller - Meet the Parents
Chevy Chase - Fletch, Vacation, Christmas Vacation
Richard Pryor - Bustin' Lose, the Toy, Stir Crazy.
Best Supporting Actor: Benicio DelTorro in Traffic beats out Jaquin Phoenix in Gladiator. Sorry, regardless of what you may think of Gladiator Phoenix was bloody brilliant in this movie! He should've won over DelTorro.
Val Kilmer not even getting a nomination for Best Supporting Actor as Doc Holiday in Tombstone. I am still scratching my head over this one.
Sean Penn not winning best actor for "Dead Man Walking." This movie moves me quite like no other.
Denzel winning best actor for "Training Day" but not for Malcom X. Why? Training Day was a horrible movie and Denzel was basically asked to play a [insert racist name here].
Spike Lee not getting ANY Oscar respect whatsoever.
Star Wars loses to Annie Hall for best picture. No way!
Alec Guinness for best supporting actor in Star Wars.
Titanic over L.A. Confidential
Gene Wilder - best actor for Willie Wonka ( I don't even think he was nominated).
I would like to also take this opportunity to express my discontent with the Academy for failing to acknowledge comedic performances. Without question there should be a best comedic performance category added. There have been so many brilliant performances over the years that have simply gone unnoticed because they were comedies.
Cleavon Little- Blazing Saddles
Bill Murray - Caddyshack
John Belushi - Animal House
Christ Farley - Tommy Boy
Jim Carey - Dumb and Dumber
Ben Stiller - Meet the Parents
Chevy Chase - Fletch, Vacation, Christmas Vacation
Richard Pryor - Bustin' Lose, the Toy, Stir Crazy.
Ignatz Mouse said:
umm.. wow.. reverse that and tha't about how I feel about the movie.. the acting was decent, script was excellent, and the "comical" king was over the top but in a good evil evil villain type way... it was a just excellent movie.. guess we just have to agree to disagree.. I will say Apollo 13 was an easy contender that year as well.. yet another amazing movie.. but Sense and Sensibility and Babe? Ok, now you are just trying to pick a fight. S&S is yet more "let's try to make an 'important' movie and win some oscars", while babe was certainly a fun kids movie, but in no way shape or form an oscar contender. and the fact that Babe was nominated but Toy Story wasn't.. now THERE is one of the bigger snubs in Oscar history...
the kids in E.T. acted like the rest of us kids did then... when I saw E.T. it resonated strongly with me because those kids were exactly how I was and the rest of my friends were. While I won't argue the merits of the movie against Ghandi (apples to oranges) to question Spielberg's capabilities as a director of children is like questioning the sky being blue. I would argue that he gets more "real" performances out of children than anyone else.. oh sure other movies get great performances out of kids, but do kids really act like Haley Joel Osmet in Sixth Sense or Forrest Gump, or like Macauly Caulkin, or the kids in Mrs. Doubtfire, etc? Harry Potter? I'm not knocking any of those movies or the kids in them.. they are all fine for what they are.. but never once do you look at those kids and say "OH MY GOD THAT IS ME WHEN I WAS A KID!" That is what ET did and that is why Spielberg did a great job directing that movie.
As for dismissing it as a kid's movie, there are PLENTY of "kids movies" that are heads and shoulders above most adult movies. Virtually anything produced by Walt Disney himself, Disney in the early 90's, Miyazaki-san, Lassetter, most Roald Dahl adaptions, etc. Being a kids movie is only a simplistic way of labeling something as "family friendly", though most film snobs usually see such accessibility as a bad thing for some reason.....
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Ignatz Mouse said:
"Hey lets re-write history so William Wallace can knock up a princess who wasn't even born until long after he was dead so we can suggest that the Scottish freedom fighter polluted the royal bloodline! The Scottish will love it and the Brits will hate it!"
borghe said:
I remember back in the 80's one critic commenting on the win of Gandhi over E.T. by asking in 20 years, which movie will be remembered more fondly by people. And if you do a "Jaywalking" sort of thing and ask the average person they will remember E.T.
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