Until it's not overwhelming for the average person to intuitively setup a PC, as well as launch and fully operate the games using nothing more than a game controller then you'll continue to be scratching your head.The “I just want to turn it on and play” and “I want to just sit on my couch and play” comments have me scratching my head.
Consoles, especially this gen, have become much more like PCs in terms of graphics settings. Games on consoles now come with presets and the ability to customize your individual settings to optimize your experience based on console hardware and display. It’s not as micromanaged as PC but it’s getting there. You don’t need to fiddle with every setting on PC either, you can just choose a preset, same as consoles.
Also, it’s not like we’re in the late 90s or early 2000s anymore where you’re stuck behind a monitor with a proprietary or PC-only connector interface. Most GPUs have multiple HDMI outputs and wireless keyboards and mice mean you’re not tethered to a desk. Run an HDMI to your TV, launch your game, pick up your controller.
Edit: I can give a bit of credit to those who say they don’t want to deal with driver updates and the like but most driver updates can be made just as automated as game updates on consoles. And hell, you have driver updates on console too, they just call them “system updates”.
The poll says it all, just going off the results Sony's install base would be cut in half.
If that were the case there wouldn't be half the people on an enthusiast gaming forum saying they will stay with Playstation. There is a large number of gaming enthusiasts that play playstation and there are a lot of PC players playing Fortnite and CoD. There is also a large group that owns both and would maybe find it redundant if that were to happen. The poll is very close. They would certainly lose a lot of enthusiasts that probably spend more buying games, that's for sure.Yeah for nerds who post on gaming forums. Not for the vast majority of their install base who only play CoD/ Fortnite / Madden / whatever. Gaming enthusiasts gravitate to PC anyway.
They would certainly lose a lot of enthusiasts that probably spend more buying games, that's for sure.
Well guess it's time for them to reverse coarseI already stopped buying games on PS because I know theyll come in 2 years. Little chance I ever buy another console that isn’t Nintendo.
PCs aren't consoles, no I won't stop buying Playstations because of that.I saw this discussion on another forum and I want GAF's take on it too. If Sony starts to release games on PC day one going forward, will that make any difference to your ownership of PlayStation consoles? Why or why not?
I own a gaming laptop and a PS5.The “I just want to turn it on and play” and “I want to just sit on my couch and play” comments have me scratching my head.
Consoles, especially this gen, have become much more like PCs in terms of graphics settings. Games on consoles now come with presets and the ability to customize your individual settings to optimize your experience based on console hardware and display. It’s not as micromanaged as PC but it’s getting there. You don’t need to fiddle with every setting on PC either, you can just choose a preset, same as consoles.
Also, it’s not like we’re in the late 90s or early 2000s anymore where you’re stuck behind a monitor with a proprietary or PC-only connector interface. Most GPUs have multiple HDMI outputs and wireless keyboards and mice mean you’re not tethered to a desk. Run an HDMI to your TV, launch your game, pick up your controller.
Edit: I can give a bit of credit to those who say they don’t want to deal with driver updates and the like but most driver updates can be made just as automated as game updates on consoles. And hell, you have driver updates on console too, they just call them “system updates”.
As somebody that has owned and played on PCs since the late 90s when I was like a little kid (minus a few years here and there periodically) and as somebody that is firmly in the SFF PC camp because I move my PC back and forth between a desk setup and my OLED tv; PC gaming on a tv isn't the greatest experience. I've tried all sorts of setupsand it's just frustrating at times.The “I just want to turn it on and play” and “I want to just sit on my couch and play” comments have me scratching my head.
Consoles, especially this gen, have become much more like PCs in terms of graphics settings. Games on consoles now come with presets and the ability to customize your individual settings to optimize your experience based on console hardware and display. It’s not as micromanaged as PC but it’s getting there. You don’t need to fiddle with every setting on PC either, you can just choose a preset, same as consoles.
Also, it’s not like we’re in the late 90s or early 2000s anymore where you’re stuck behind a monitor with a proprietary or PC-only connector interface. Most GPUs have multiple HDMI outputs and wireless keyboards and mice mean you’re not tethered to a desk. Run an HDMI to your TV, launch your game, pick up your controller.
Edit: I can give a bit of credit to those who say they don’t want to deal with driver updates and the like but most driver updates can be made just as automated as game updates on consoles. And hell, you have driver updates on console too, they just call them “system updates”.
I always see this comment about how enthusiasts gravitate towards PC and it always comes across sort of naive. The vast majority of PC players that I know or have met in real life play almost entirely multiplayer games which I find it hard to call them "enthusiasts" or "hardcore".Yeah for nerds who post on gaming forums. Not for the vast majority of their install base who only play CoD/ Fortnite / Madden / whatever. Gaming enthusiasts gravitate to PC anyway.
Agreed. I would make love to PlayStation if I could.I'm too lazy to even change my HDD on playstation. You think I'll change platform because another platform gets our games Day 1?
Been with them since PS1 it ain't changing.
It definitely did. Loads of people said I dont need to own a Xbox anymore. Why would someone buy an Xbox when they have a PC if it has all the games?Putting games on PC didn’t hurt Xbox.
Does anybody still believe there will be no effect on the console if this were to happen?
I think the real question is this: If they started doing day-and-date releases on PC, some of us who have powerful PC's and prefer that platform would stop buying PS hardware. But how many PC players who won't buy PS hardware would buy those games on PC? They'd be losing some money on the first group, but making some on the second. So do the revenue and profit numbers from the second group outweigh the loss from the first group?
I think releasing it first on Playstation definitely outweighs it mainly because of the 30% cut that they would lose not on just their games but third party too. Remember even things like Fortnite mtx revenue is split from hours played on a Playstation. If they say you don't need a playstation it's like saying they don't want that mtx and 30% too. Xbox mostly bailed on the 30% and store by becoming a huge publisher instead by buying their own Fortnite in CoD, Diablo, Minecraft, Elderscrolls online etc. Playstations business model is the Playstation even though they are expanding beyond it it's still successful and their bread and butter unlike xbox. That's the only reason it was abandoned by MS.I think the real question is this: If they started doing day-and-date releases on PC, some of us who have powerful PC's and prefer that platform would stop buying PS hardware. But how many PC players who won't buy PS hardware would buy those games on PC? They'd be losing some money on the first group, but making some on the second. So do the revenue and profit numbers from the second group outweigh the loss from the first group?
If they do, then it's probably a good move for them. If they don't, then it's a bad move. This is a case of "it depends...", and the nitty gritty details we won't get to see because we're not in PlayStation's accounting department.
I'd also mention that yes, Xbox made this bet and seems to have failed miserably at it. But that's not because it's a bad idea across the board. Xbox failed at it because they haven't put out very many games, they didn't market them for shit, and many of their games haven't been well received. Just because the strategy didn't work for Xbox doesn't mean it can't be a good move for PlayStation.
...among GAFers. If history showed us anything it's that this forums userbase is in no way representative of the general population of gamers globally. Most people are lazy and dumb, which is why they prefer the convenience consoles provide.The poll says it all, just going off the results Sony's install base would be cut in half.
...among GAFers. If history showed us anything it's that this forums userbase is in no way representative of the general population of gamers globally. Most people are lazy and dumb, which is why they prefer the convenience consoles provide.
You also got to factor in how many solely PS5 owners would switch over to PC because now everything would be on PC?I think the real question is this: If they started doing day-and-date releases on PC, some of us who have powerful PC's and prefer that platform would stop buying PS hardware. But how many PC players who won't buy PS hardware would buy those games on PC? They'd be losing some money on the first group, but making some on the second. So do the revenue and profit numbers from the second group outweigh the loss from the first group?
If they do, then it's probably a good move for them. If they don't, then it's a bad move. This is a case of "it depends...", and the nitty gritty details we won't get to see because we're not in PlayStation's accounting department.
I'd also mention that yes, Xbox made this bet and seems to have failed miserably at it. But that's not because it's a bad idea across the board. Xbox failed at it because they haven't put out very many games, they didn't market them for shit, and many of their games haven't been well received. Just because the strategy didn't work for Xbox doesn't mean it can't be a good move for PlayStation.
Going by enthusiast boards most PC gamers have a 4080 or higher.If that were the case there wouldn't be half the people on an enthusiast gaming forum saying they will stay with Playstation. There is a large number of gaming enthusiasts that play playstation and there are a lot of PC players playing Fortnite and CoD. There is also a large group that owns both and would maybe find it redundant if that were to happen. The poll is very close. They would certainly lose a lot of enthusiasts that probably spend more buying games, that's for sure.
Going by enthusiast boards most PC gamers have a 4080 or higher.
Going by Steam hardware stats most people have a 3060 or lower.
The loss would barely be seen.
Sony could gain from more excited enthusiast PC gamers since they talk a lot and stream and post screenshots, which could help sell games.
Right now every Sony exclusive comes with negativity from loud complaints about the exclusivity and PC delay plus port begging.
Most people are lazy and dumb, which is why they prefer the convenience consoles provide.
There are PS gamers who’re playing on PC too, that’s why Xbox was said to be irrelevant when MS started porting their games last gen, so there will be some overlapping.Being exclusive have your very own marketing advantages. I doubt sonys top sellers which sold around 20m will suddenly sell double the ammount.
But it doesn't matter if it will slowly kill the platform. Pc fanboys can stop arguing, Sony will do it anyway.