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Wrath of the Lamb |OT| A Binding of Isaac Expansion
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OmegaDragon
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I've played a couple of games and got to the new final boss but I died there 
Those spider enemies are extremely annoying. Its pretty fun trying to figure out what all the new stuff does. Prayer card is going to be a favourite. I killed a couple of Isaacs trying to figure out how the sacrifice room works I have some idea what the trinkets do: red cloth gives you bonus damage when hurt, missing paper sometimes triggers Necronomicon.
I also played two challenges, the first one, something with "unlucky", stopped after killing Mom. I didn't really notice what was different. The second one was Meat4Ever, you start with a full meat boy, no items rooms. Yet I got loads of items from the curse rooms, shops, angel and devil rooms etc. When I entered the womb, Isaac was an unstoppable powerhouse with homing spectral tears that did massive amounts of damage. Satan was a piece of cake.
Those spider enemies are extremely annoying. Its pretty fun trying to figure out what all the new stuff does. Prayer card is going to be a favourite. I killed a couple of Isaacs trying to figure out how the sacrifice room works I have some idea what the trinkets do: red cloth gives you bonus damage when hurt, missing paper sometimes triggers Necronomicon. I also played two challenges, the first one, something with "unlucky", stopped after killing Mom. I didn't really notice what was different. The second one was Meat4Ever, you start with a full meat boy, no items rooms. Yet I got loads of items from the curse rooms, shops, angel and devil rooms etc. When I entered the womb, Isaac was an unstoppable powerhouse with homing spectral tears that did massive amounts of damage. Satan was a piece of cake.
Incendiary
Banned
Yeah, it's not worth it. I've gotten to Mom twice with the Explosive Shot but it is absolutely useless/dreadful against Mom since the shot goes through her leg every time and I always die.
Managed to finally beat it, though (not the whole thing, as I haven't gotten all the endings yet) with a combination of Tech2/Prayer Card/Charge Shot. Good times were had by all. And I definitely agree that Tech2 is ridiculous.
Playing the Large Marge challenge, Cellar XL. Stupid spiders mean I'm down to 1 HP.
First boss: Pin. OK, piece of cake. Finish him without taking any damage.
Second boss: Widow. NOOOOO.
Also, now that Yum Heart recharges in 4 rooms, it's pretty great. Unless you have the battery or 9 volt, choosing between the Yum Heart and the Book of Revelations is pretty hard.
First boss: Pin. OK, piece of cake. Finish him without taking any damage.
Second boss: Widow. NOOOOO.
I died.
Also, now that Yum Heart recharges in 4 rooms, it's pretty great. Unless you have the battery or 9 volt, choosing between the Yum Heart and the Book of Revelations is pretty hard.
Wait a sec, if there's two secret rooms on each floor now, does that mean XL versions could have three or more secret rooms?
Not necessarily, they only get one shop, right?
I don't believe so, no. Gotta be something "curse-y" about the curse, I suppose!Wait a sec, if there's two secret rooms on each floor now, does that mean XL versions could have three or more secret rooms?
PROTIP: Never try to use a forget-me-now with a curse of the labyrinth floor. Does not work as you might hope, at all. Sometimes it restarts on floor 2 of the area, but on the Large Marge challenge, it just moved to the next area as if I just climbed down. Is that what I gave my guppy's paw and a heart container for!? I basically doomed myself.
Joe Molotov
Member
These new bosses are taking me out behind the woodshed. I've been killed by Super Greed, Queen of Carrion, and Widow in just the last 30 minutes.
RPG_Fanatic
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I never got to Mom ever with the original. After playing with Wrath of the Lamb I finally beat Mom for the first time. I got plenty of health items, so I went in to the final battle with 8 hearts, minus a bit a damage I took.
The power up that replaces your tears with green "bombs" is the worst thing ever. :|
I was almost unstoppable - had technology 2, third eye, randomized tears, dead cat (still with 8 lives, 3 red hearts and 2 silver hearts) and something that gave me wings. My tears were strong and fast as hell. I went through most of the game without a scratch. And then, just before the first fight with Mom, I picked the power up that replaced my tears with toxic bombs. And I kept dying during the boss fight not because mom (she only touched me once), but because the bombs kept exploding near me thus hurting me. Fuck.
I was almost unstoppable - had technology 2, third eye, randomized tears, dead cat (still with 8 lives, 3 red hearts and 2 silver hearts) and something that gave me wings. My tears were strong and fast as hell. I went through most of the game without a scratch. And then, just before the first fight with Mom, I picked the power up that replaced my tears with toxic bombs. And I kept dying during the boss fight not because mom (she only touched me once), but because the bombs kept exploding near me thus hurting me. Fuck.
Mr. Enigma
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Incendiary
Banned
The only new boss I have consistent trouble with is Widow, because of the damn spiders. But I absolutely hate Mask of Infamy, not because it's hard but because it's the most annoying boss in the game and takes forever if you don't have a piercing upgrade by the time you fight it.
As much as I love the Wrath of Lamb stuff, I'm very rarely getting any of the old items now. I've gotten Jesus Juice on nearly every playthrough. Technology 2 usually shows up every other playthrough and the Prayer Card is always in a shop early on, which is ridiculous.
Backfoggen
Banned
Look at the bottom of the OP for the original game. That's what I'm using.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444485
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
use joy2key from the original thread. someone (I think salsashark?) made a config file for it. it works brilliantly.
Thanks for the tip guys, I did a quick search but didn't see an OT immediately.
For me, the first three were scrambled. Beating #3 gave me the candle achievement.
Okay, this made me laugh. Ipecac with broken mirror = worst combination. http://www.twitch.tv/manvsgame/b/320001530
I even hesitate to pick up the three dollar bill with Ipecac, just getting one room of that can doom your run
Haunted
Member
Samson is such a cool character if you get the right bosses (i.e. bosses that spawn enemies, like Widow, Husk or Carrion Queen). Lots of fun. And then you get to a lonely boss and he fucking sucks again.
And yeah, I think the drop rates are heavily geared towards the new items.
Haunted
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cartman414
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Ipecac is right. I would hurl if I ended up with that combo.
Spectacular Dr Dawg
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Lord British
Member
What was the last Isaac update for?
I just ignore it unless I have something that overrides it such a tech 2 with cain as then I just power up my beam.
the new achievements perhaps?
RPG_Fanatic
Member
The only plus is that it makes finding the secret rooms easy.
it wouldn't be so bad if spectral shot allowed it to go through rocks as well.... then it could be fun to hide in the rocks and blow up everything, but no it just explodes on your face if you try that lol
Haunted
Member
Both Dr Fetus and Mega Fetus shit on Icepac from a great height.
Also, is it just me or did they increase the hitbox on Mom's foot attack? I swear I'm getting hit by her when I wouldn't in the original.
That simple change probably makes her the hardest boss in the game right now (imo).
Also, is it just me or did they increase the hitbox on Mom's foot attack? I swear I'm getting hit by her when I wouldn't in the original.
That simple change probably makes her the hardest boss in the game right now (imo).
Dr. Fetus is nice because you get physical bombs that you can toss into enemies, or throw into a wall as you pass by for an effective short-fuse bomb substitute. It's considerably more flexible than the fixed-range Ipecac.
Not just you. She stomps me like crazy unless I'm constantly moving or have some pretty good speed boosts.
I thought I was just ridiculously rusty from not playing for a while prior to WotL's release. Yeah, I get stomped all the time now too.
platypotamus
Member
Agreed, mom's stomp's radius must have gone up.
ChoklitReign
Member
Fuck Monstro 2! I had Tech 2 and quad shot, maxxing out my attack power, and he ends me. I learned to dodge his huge lazer and got squished. I even had the 9 lives cat but only one heart. I was having the most fun ever with the game.
Damn thing's useless unless you're already super-pro at avoiding damage, at which point you don't need extra lives anyway.
it's kind of fun if you can pick it up with one of the characters that have 1 starting HP on the first floor, but beyond that it is mostly useless yeah... it's a big trap lol.
I have a question about the new type of secret room with enemies in it. I cleared one out and then bombed through another wall, taking me to a section of map that was only connected to the main map through the secret room. Is this standard for that type of room, or was it a fluke of that particular map? If it's standard, it seems like a bad design decision, since if you run out of bombs you'll be stuck there and have to quit.
Don't run out of bombs.
platypotamus
Member
I've had so many runs ended by mom lately. I beat it twice right after WotL came out, and then only gotten by mom once since, dying in some ridiculous room with a lot of explosive launching guys in the womb on an XL cursed floor
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
I don't seem to be getting any achievements at all. I beat the game with judas and cain just now but they are still locked. what's up with that?
I should have just earned 'the curved horn' but no go. damnit that was hard.
I should have just earned 'the curved horn' but no go. damnit that was hard.
Haunted
Member
Yeah, achievements are still iffy. I beat the first challenge and got the achievement for the third. Now I've beaten them all and still don't have the achievement for the first, although at least I got the reward item in-game.
The usual trick of restarting Steam and then Isaac to re-sync achievements didn't help this time.
Seems like McMillen ran out of time to QC this one! At least he's being fast with the fixes. I hope it'll be sorted out in a couple days.
The usual trick of restarting Steam and then Isaac to re-sync achievements didn't help this time.
Seems like McMillen ran out of time to QC this one! At least he's being fast with the fixes. I hope it'll be sorted out in a couple days.
It was exactly the same with the original release of the game, which also had plenty of bugs and issues with achievements, pretty much everything got patched, but I'm assuming this expansion introduced a whole bunch of new issues.