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Just a tip for network subscribers. If your sub is up soon, and you want to take advantage of the free month of April for "new" subscribers, just make another account with a different email. They don't check if its the same credit/debit card, only e-mail. I've gotten every free month like that so far, and then pay for the months between the free.
 
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Just a tip for network subscribers. If your sub is up soon, and you want to take advantage of the free month of April for "new" subscribers, just make another account with a different email. They don't check if its the same credit/debit card, only e-mail. I've gotten every free month like that so far, and then pay for the months between the free.

That's too much work to save a paltry $10, but some people here may appreciate this method
 

Hex

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That's too much work to save a paltry $10, but some people here may appreciate this method

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I agree with you
 

Carnby

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That's too much work to save a paltry $10, but some people here may appreciate this method

It's not even 10 dollars. It's 9.99.

WM 31 was pretty. I was at the edge of my seat during the entire main event. This was definitely one of the stronger WMs ever. I'm impressed that WWE pulled it off despite my "uninformed" opinion.
 
Just a tip for network subscribers. If your sub is up soon, and you want to take advantage of the free month of April for "new" subscribers, just make another account with a different email. They don't check if its the same credit/debit card, only e-mail. I've gotten every free month like that so far, and then pay for the months between the free.

Meh.. it's worth the $10 a month regardless if I could get it for free. I don't mind paying for it even though I know I could watch "illegal" streams for every PPV.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
So the WWE has to fill up a 100k stadium next year. If I were them I'd be planning ahead right now because I can't possibly imagine anything they do drawing 100k.

Hypothetical Card

The Rock & Ronda Rousey vs HHH and Stephanie McMahon
John Cena (US Title) & Hulk Hogan vs Rusev & Roddy Piper
Brock Lesnar vs Kevin Owens vs Samoa Joe
Roman Reigns (RR Winner) vs Dean Ambrose (RR Winner) vs Seth Rollins (WWE Champion) [Seth spends year running from Dean & Reigns, who deliberately eliminate themselves at the same time in the RR so they can both get a shot at Rollins]
Daniel Bryan (IC Title) vs Finn Balor


Not sure if Taker and Sting will be involved, but could have them tag team together to face a dominant heel tag team.

The max capacity of the stadium is 105k, and the biggest event there is 104,793 people coming to see the final George Strait concert. I think they are going for 100k+, since the Strait concert can have a set up that takes up less space than WM.
 

bigkrev

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They aren't really going to be filling up a 100k arena, with the WM setup, they'll probably be seating about 80,000. Which is still a massive number, but they will pretend they sold out 105k or whatever, just like they give a fake record breaking number every WM.

It has a capacity of 105,000 for Football. Metlife Field has a 82,000 capacity for Football, and they got 80,500 in for Wrestlemania 29. They will easily be able to have over 100,000 seats for Wrestlemania
 

Toki767

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Yep. I was there, and there were so many "holy shit" surprise moments and reasons for everyone to lose it. It was the best live wrestling show I've ever seen. I wish I could relive Seth's music hitting forever, I can't even explain the adrenaline rush I got from it. And now we get to bring that energy to Raw.

Yeah. I was there and enjoyed it a lot. Although honestly re-watching it now I can see why some people aren't coming off as positive.

The entire show was designed to get a lot of pops from the live crowd and it worked.
 
I wonder what numbers they'd pull if they held it at Wembley stadium..

SummerSlam '92 at Wembley got ~80,000, but they'll probably never do a big PPV outside the Americas due to them airing foreign shows on tape-dealy and they wouldn't want results for those to leak out and potentially kill PPV buys/network subscriptions.
 
I want Roman to succeed, but last night I wanted him to fail.

Luckily, all 3 members came out well in that main event. Roman played it off perfectly, and its a good setup for a heel turn. Lesner wasn't pinned, but he still shows he is unbeatable. Seth? Champ.
 

Fox318

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I wonder what numbers they'd pull if they held it at Wembley stadium..

I really think they should do it but with the old Summerslam they had a European star to headline it.


Outside of future WWE Hall of Famer Cesaro and maybe BNB who would be in the main event?
 

bigkrev

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I wonder what numbers they'd pull if they held it at Wembley stadium..

SummerSlam '92 at Wembley got ~80,000, but they'll probably never do a big PPV outside the Americas due to them airing foreign shows on tape-dealy and they wouldn't want results for those to leak out and potentially kill PPV buys/network subscriptions.

Now that PPV is irrelevant outside of Wrestlemania and maybe Summerslam, I could see them running one of the smaller shows (Like Payback or Battleground) in the UK, with a start time of 8pm UK (for a 3:00 EST/12:00 PST) live on the Network, and then replaying it again at the traditional 8/5 time. The problem is that they probably would not be able to fill an outdoor stadium for a show like this, and they would have to run the O2 arena or something.
 

styl3s

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Just a tip for network subscribers. If your sub is up soon, and you want to take advantage of the free month of April for "new" subscribers, just make another account with a different email. They don't check if its the same credit/debit card, only e-mail. I've gotten every free month like that so far, and then pay for the months between the free.
Eh, it's $10.

I guess it's a good method if you are a broke college kid but i wouldn't be surprised if WWE stops doing the free month because people abuse it.
 
Hell of a Mania for $9.99.

Lesnar is a once-in-a-generation superfreak. Watching that guy merk the competition is too damn fun. Reigns gets respect for working stiff with Brock but his character is far from right. Dude needs to start with new ring gear. That silly vest with the quasi Superman symbol is just awful.

Rollins is my boy, GAF. First guy I've been this hyped about since HBK and Angle were in their prime. Quality match with Orton. Phenomenal finish. If Lesnar isn't carrying the strap, Rollins is my next-up.

Cena over Rusev felt like a formality. The finish didn't damage Rusev but a break with Lana would be brutal. Rusev with Lana is a poor man's Brock. Rusev without Lana is just another brute. That Rusev entrance was pageantry at its finest though. Let's see where his character goes from here.

Taker over Bray was underwhelming. Taker didn't have any mystique this time. The win resurrected his Mania credibility but put Wyatt back in limbo. Right now Wyatt is a more marketable version of Mankind. He can recover with good booking but will never be what Taker was.

HHH over Sting was a shocker. The run-ins made for a circus show but I'll be damned if I wasn't hyped as hell. The finish was abrupt and unceremonious but at least we got closure. Taker and Sting at next year's Mania would be a solid sent off. But only if somebody can convince Sting to shave his head. That hair was a trainwreck, bruh.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Hell of a Mania for $9.99.

Lesnar is a once-in-a-generation superfreak. Watching that guy merk the competition is too damn fun. Reigns gets respect for working stiff with Brock but his character is far from right. Dude needs to start with new ring gear. That silly vest with the quasi Superman symbol is just awful.

Rollins is my boy, GAF. First guy I've been this hyped about since HBK and Angle were in their prime. Quality match with Orton. Phenomenal finish. If Lesnar isn't carrying the strap, Rollins is my next-up.

Cena over Rusev felt like a formality. The finish didn't damage Rusev but a break with Lana would be brutal. Rusev with Lana is a poor man's Brock. Rusev without Lana is just another brute. That Rusev entrance was pageantry at its finest though. Let's see where his character goes from here.

Taker over Bray was underwhelming. Taker didn't have any mystique this time. The win resurrected his Mania credibility but put Wyatt back in limbo. Right now Wyatt is a more marketable version of Mankind. He can recover with good booking but will never be what Taker was.

HHH over Sting was a shocker. The run-ins made for a circus show but I'll be damned if I wasn't hyped as hell. The finish was abrupt and unceremonious but at least we got closure. Taker and Sting at next year's Mania would be a solid sent off. But only if somebody can convince Sting to shave his head. That hair was a trainwreck, bruh.

One of the biggest what ifs of this generation will be "what if Brock Lesnar never left WWE". I wonder whether Cena / Lesnar becomes Austin / Rock. Bret / Shawn, etc.
 

Radec

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Just saw WM without getting spoiled all day.

Brock did a great job wrecking Reigns. Was biting my nail when that awful Reigns is looking to win it. Then this guy happened:

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Solid Mania in a long time.
 

OnPoint

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Cena over Rusev felt like a formality. The finish didn't damage Rusev but a break with Lana would be brutal. Rusev with Lana is a poor man's Brock. Rusev without Lana is just another brute. That Rusev entrance was pageantry at its finest though. Let's see where his character goes from here.

Taker over Bray was underwhelming. Taker didn't have any mystique this time. The win resurrected his Mania credibility but put Wyatt back in limbo. Right now Wyatt is a more marketable version of Mankind. He can recover with good booking but will never be what Taker was.

HHH over Sting was a shocker. The run-ins made for a circus show but I'll be damned if I wasn't hyped as hell. The finish was abrupt and unceremonious but at least we got closure. Taker and Sting at next year's Mania would be a solid sent off. But only if somebody can convince Sting to shave his head. That hair was a trainwreck, bruh.

I feel like Rusev is set up to go onto the next rung. Perhaps he's ready to take swings at the IC card (the IC belt is still the 2nd ranking belt right?).

Hopefully they'll fix Wyatt, but this was definitely more about setting 'Taker up for next year, I think. I do hope it isn't to face Sting though. They should leave Sting behind now that it's over.
 

Ithil

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It has a capacity of 105,000 for Football. Metlife Field has a 82,000 capacity for Football, and they got 80,500 in for Wrestlemania 29. They will easily be able to have over 100,000 seats for Wrestlemania

It's not quite as simple as that.

The stadium holds 80,000 for football, which would mean a WrestleMania would do about 75,000. However, there are 7,000 additional seats they can add, as well as 18,000 or so people that can be let in to an area without seating which is where some of the 100,000 figures they've announced for the stadium have come from.
 

Hex

Banned
That matchup might have been appealing if Sting didn't lose last night.

The handshake thing is what killed it last night.
Then not an hour later Triple Paul is out in the ring talking shit about the match and owning Sting and this and that.
The handshake killed any heat or future for the program.
It was so stupid the way it played out.
 

Hex

Banned
They clown on WCW's Robocop stuff all the time on WWE Network shows, and then they have the gall to do god damn TERMIATOR AT WRESTLEMANIA?!

#WCWwasRight

The Terminator thing was so so so terrible, especially when Rusev came so soon after with the boss of an entrance.
I thought at least the Terminators would move or something, I mean it was so total cheese.
And Triple Paul looked horrible.
Last year he was full on Conan pimp mode.
 

IconGrist

Member
I don't think Reigns is getting the credit he deserves for the storytelling that went on in that match. It did a good job building his character. Brock did really well also going from confidence to outright frustration and shock that Roman wouldn't quit. To me, it felt like Roman kicking out of two F5s wasn't so much because he was fighting to stay in the match but more to just irritate Brock even further. Which is where Brock did a great job being shocked and confused as to what Roman was trying to accomplish.

Roman got his ass beat for a long while but continued to taunt Brock. Smiling and laughing off his offense. Egging Brock on to continue punishing him and then mushing Brock as if to say, "Is this all you have?"

It became apparent to me fairly early on that Roman's plan was just to endure the punishment Brock was dishing out looking to tire him out. The madder Brock became the more he looked to punish and Roman just accepted it until he finally saw an opportunity and came at Brock with his biggest hits. Wasting his time trying to out wrestle Brock would have been an extremely poor decision on his part.

I had no problem with Roman before but after last night I am sold on him. I just hope WWE capitalizes on it and doesn't just go back to stale face Roman. I don't need Roman to be The Rock but do something. This is the guy that came closest to beating Brock on his own than anyone else all year (even though that's not a long list).
 

MisterR

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I don't think Reigns is getting the credit he deserves for the storytelling that went on in that match. It did a good job building his character. Brock did really well also going from confidence to outright frustration and shock that Roman wouldn't quit. To me, it felt like Roman kicking out of two F5s wasn't so much because he was fighting to stay in the match but more to just irritate Brock even further. Which is where Brock did a great job being shocked and confused as to what Roman was trying to accomplish.

Roman got his ass beat for a long while but continued to taunt Brock. Smiling and laughing off his offense. Egging Brock on to continue punishing him and then mushing Brock as if to say, "Is this all you have?"

It became apparent to me fairly early on that Roman's plan was just to endure the punishment Brock was dishing out looking to tire him out. The madder Brock became the more he looked to punish and Roman just accepted it until he finally saw an opportunity and came at Brock with his biggest hits. Wasting his time trying to out wrestle Brock would have been an extremely poor decision on his part.

I had no problem with Roman before but after last night I am sold on him. I just hope WWE capitalizes on it and doesn't just go back to stale face Roman. I don't need Roman to be The Rock but do something. This is the guy that came closest to beating Brock on his own than anyone else all year (even though that's not a long list).

I agree, I though Roman was really good last night.
 

Khrno

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It became apparent to me fairly early on that Roman's plan was just to endure the punishment Brock was dishing out looking to tire him out. The madder Brock became the more he looked to punish and Roman just accepted it until he finally saw an opportunity and came at Brock with his biggest hits.

The huge problem with that is that paints Reigns as this super guy which doesn't take any damage to endure so many suplexes and kick out of three F5s as if it was nothing, then Lesnar gets hit once on the ringpost and Reigns does his superman comeback as if he had taken no damage prior to that and started moving and jumping around in perfect health. Yeah way to sell that beat up Roman "2008 Cena" Reigns.

I really hated that booking.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
The huge problem with that is that paints Reigns as this super guy which doesn't take any damage to endure so many suplexes and kick out of three F5s as if it was nothing, then Lesnar gets hit once on the ringpost and Reigns does his superman comeback as if he had taken no damage prior to that and started moving and jumping around in perfect health. Yeah way to sell that beat up Roman "2008 Cena" Reigns.

I really hated that booking.

If Daniel Bryan hadn't been hit with multiple pedigrees, wrestled two matches in a night, and hit with an RKO / Batista Bomb combo onto the announce table, and then sprung up off a gurney and took out both Orton and Batista..I feel like there might be more to this complaint.

WWE always book their top faces like Superman; I don't think they know how to do it otherwise.
 

Hasney

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You have an oddly strange hate for the idea of Sting vs Taker

I've seen pensioners on Bum Fights, I don't need to see it again. Sting could barley do a scorpion death lock and if Taker was anymore sluggish, he would have actually been crawling around in goo.
 

Hex

Banned
The huge problem with that is that paints Reigns as this super guy which doesn't take any damage to endure so many suplexes and kick out of three F5s as if it was nothing, then Lesnar gets hit once on the ringpost and Reigns does his superman comeback as if he had taken no damage prior to that and started moving and jumping around in perfect health. Yeah way to sell that beat up Roman "2008 Cena" Reigns.

I really hated that booking.

On one hand it is the super guy, on the other hand it is pretty much every Rocky fight.
He gets his ass beat round after round, wearing the opponent down until he gets his opening and the oppoent slows and then he opens up and lays into him.
 

IconGrist

Member
The huge problem with that is that paints Reigns as this super guy which doesn't take any damage to endure so many suplexes and kick out of three F5s as if it was nothing, then Lesnar gets hit once on the ringpost and Reigns does his superman comeback as if he had taken no damage prior to that and started moving and jumping around in perfect health. Yeah way to sell that beat up Roman "2008 Cena" Reigns.

I really hated that booking.

But they did paint him that way. It wasn't out of character or anything. And it's not exactly like this is a problem specific to Reigns. Brock dominated Rollins and Cena with a "broken rib" just two months ago. That's basically Cena's entire gimmick.

I mean I get why that's frustrating or at least could be frustrating for realism's sake but it added a little bit to Roman's character here. He saw Brock was hurt and stunned and went at him. The title was on the line, Roman's reputation is on the line. From a storytelling perspective I was more than fine with that playing out in that way.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
How many unique moves did Reigns did?

Only 2 ? Superman and Spear?

He's worse than Cena.

In the context of this specific match; I don't see why people are harping on this. He got his ass beat for 90% of the match. If it were a back and forth match it would be one thing; but that's like complaining about how many moves Cena and Brock did during their SSlam match.
 
The problem with the Sting/Aitch match is it got the McMahon special. It's clear they had ~3 good ideas of how to book that match and in true Vince fashion, instead of choosing one of these ideas, they just did them all.
 

IconGrist

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How many unique moves did Reigns did?

Only 2 ? Superman and Spear?

He's worse than Cena.

My problem with this is that Brock didn't exactly do a lot either. Suplexes, some F5s and some knees. That was the entirety of Brock's offense. Roman used some knees, some Superman punches and a couple of spears. Their offense was roughly identical.

The only reason Brock is forgiven for that is because we know his wrestling history. Give Roman some time. He's not a technical expert but that's not what WWE seems look for in their stars in the first place.
 
The problem with the Sting/Aitch match is it got the McMahon special. It's clear they had ~3 good ideas of how to book that match and in true Vince fashion, instead of choosing one of these ideas, they just did them all.

No, the real problem with Sting/HHH was the commentary constantly shitting on WCW like it was 2001 all over again.
 
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