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There's nothing more exciting as a gaming machine than a PC. But personally, I'm waiting to see whatever Valve comes up with for their desktop. For now, my 4090 is good enough.
Anyone got the feeling that MS is going to drop the next XBOX next year?
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There's nothing more exciting as a gaming machine than a PC. But personally, I'm waiting to see whatever Valve comes up with for their desktop. For now, my 4090 is good enough.
GTA VI was a 2025 game until it got delayed.
The idea that they'd suddenly decided to fast track a release they'd already fully scoped out just because of one game is hilarious.
I love how warriors have fixated around this made up $1200 price.
Even at $1200, it would be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than similar prebuilt SFF PCs.
Why would anyone be really dismayed if they can't run Photoshop on their TV console?
Tbh, having an all in one box is significantly more exciting for most people than a regular console, if affordability isn't a challenge. Especially when Xbox can't really appeal as a traditional console again after going third party.
How would it have been their target when GTA 6 was a 2025 game until 6 months ago?
And with a PC version delayed, who would be buying an unsubsidized, expensive console just to play essentially the Xbox Series version of the game?
Bernkastel
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So it is a console. Go back to the original comment I replied. Why would PC gamers buy this when they can build their own PC? Why would console gamers pay 1200$?I love how warriors have fixated around this made up $1200 price.
Even at $1200, it would be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than similar prebuilt SFF PCs.
Why would anyone be really dismayed if they can't run Photoshop on their TV console?
vaibhavpisal
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Simplified, console experience.
If you want flexibility, stay on pc.
I think a entry level laptop + magnus will make for a good combo for pc gaming. Covering all bases.
it'll be an easier way to get Steam on your TV
DenchDeckard
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It does seem that they are on the ball with locking this thing down but I think 2026 could be a stretch. I'm sure they would love to but who knows.
2027 seems like the play.
2027 seems like the play.
cormack12
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I actually would have been one of those, but I have a PC now. I think the next 12 months are going to see MS trying to get all their entitlements to be Play Anywhere compatible.
If you pay attention to all the little steps like the PC App allowing cross platform parties, Play Anywhere, Cross platform saves then their strategy is becoming clear.
$1200 is a steep price no doubt, but the power of an OEM PC with dedicated silicone, quiet and without the hassle of PC crashes or CTD will be appealing for some (particularly those who have parts of the ecosystem that arent ready yet to move from).
It's a wide, diverse ecosystem they are moving towards, and I think if everyone were to take a step back they would see these is something there for them. And if not, then Sony have the more traditional console experience.
At some point they have to switch over and this is the start. Play Anywhere abd Cross Saves are the the most important thing to resolve and align over the next 12 months imo
pacman4000
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PS6 and possibly PSP do.
They don't "do" much but the point is that what and/ms did back in 2005 won't happen again.
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Team Andromeda
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I would love it to be next year, but I feel it will be mid 2027 with the new Halo
pacman4000
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So, you are saying pre-built PCs are DOA, "in this economy"?Price.
pacman4000
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Well, the NextBox will have the next-gen (aka PC) version of GTA6 on day 1.
Knowing Rockstar, the PS6 probably won't.
Bernkastel
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console experience at 1200 $. And don't call it PC gaming.
vaibhavpisal
Member
All consoles are PC at this point.
$1200 cause its using expensive parts.
I know giving up on flexibility is a tough pill to swallow, which is why an entry level laptop is a good combo with it.
PeteBull
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Its all about how mature is 3nm tsmc manufacturing node, we had leaks nvidia 60xx series of cards gonna use it, and those cards are sheduled for early 2027 launch.
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We gotta remember 3nm node is in crazy high demand, all top players in the industry compete for it: apple, samsung, AI workstations from nvidia and amd, and when more mainstream(cheaper) node is avaiable we can be sure priority will go to nvidia and amd consumer gpus before new xbox/ps6 simply coz those will be able to pay higher premium(topend pc cards cost premium vs consoles).
Ar¢tos
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Pre built PCs generally don't use APUs, so they are upgradeable, having a longer life and giving more value to the initial investment.
pacman4000
Member
Yes but maybe the "Xbox packaging" will be regarded as just as valuable. We don't know that and it will vary depending on the user.
Ar¢tos
Member
With the Xbox brand at its lowest now, I can't imagine how much value it will have in 2 years when this thing releases. They will be lucky if people even remember them.
Bernkastel
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Actually consoles like Playstation and Switch have proper physical releases. Sony and Nintendo first party games playable without any kind of day one patch, Sony even added 100 GB BD100 option for PS5. Xbox first party usually don't have the full game on disc. Adding to that Xbox since 2013 has removed offline accounts, you essentially need a Microsoft account to play on your Xbox. So Xbox is a DRM. Many single player games (particularly Japanese ones) don't have Xbox physical releases. Xbox only supports 50 GB BD50 blu rays which can't fit a full game in most cases. So Playstation and Switch are definitely not like a PC.
Now coming back to PC, PC gamers will never buy a locked down system like Magnus.