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[LectureMaster]

Wukong Director posted on Weibo to thank all supports for Steam Awards, also addressing the delay of Xbox port for the first time.

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Machine translation:

Although there were no big surprises, I still felt a little emotional after getting all of them (STEAM awards). Everyone's fighting hard for us. But the only thing missing is the XBOX award, which should've been there (but that 10G of shared memory, it's really impossible to get it without several years of optimization experience

 

[DenchDeckard]

Is that series s? Yeah I remember everyone saying that within 3 to 4 years xbox will suffer due to series s and here we are. You were all right.

 

[LectureMaster]

 

[Topher]

 

[jm89]

Jez and tassi right now.

 

[KimDongHwan]

Do other Devs not talk about this because of NDA?

 

[Punished Miku]

They're a young studio. Maybe optimization like that is a little beyond their skill level. I'll pick it up in a few years for $20 when stronger systems are out.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Jez Corden and the green rats seething at this

 

[intheinbetween]

Lmao, yeah right

 

[Bojji]

Cut the game on small levels (like HL2) and voila - fuck parity clauses and fuck Series S.

 

[Tajaz2426]

Uh oh, some folks here are looking like they belong in the movie Idiocracy, drinking Brawndo. Let’s see where this goes.

 

[Gaiff]

To be fair, BMW is extremely poorly optimized. They cannot even give us a 1080p/60fps mode on the base PS5 without frame generation, so I imagine Series S was something like 720p-900p and 45-ish fps with frame generation. An awful experience.

Still, that's at least two major titles that were delayed on Xbox because of the Series S.

 

[Topher]

Cut the game on small levels (like HL2) and voila - fuck parity clauses and fuck Series S.

I'm wondering if that would require another exception from Microsoft like they gave to Larian.

 

[Punished Miku]

Jez Corden and the green rats seething at this

Honestly, not really. I like Series S. I wasn't buying this game for $70. I'll pick it up down the line at a later date. Its at least good to get a clear statement of what's going on.

 

[ManaByte]

The game still runs like shit on the PS5 Pro. They need a few more years experience period.

 

[adamsapple]

To be fair, BMW is extremely poorly optimized. They cannot even give us a 1080p/60fps mode on the base PS5 without frame generation, so I imagine Series S was something like 720p-900p and 45-ish fps with frame generation. An awful experience.

True, when the Ps5 Pro version drops to 46 and below, they've got a lot of room for improvement.

Perhaps, like AW2 and BG3 developers ended up saying, working on the Series S version will be beneficial to all console versions.

 

[LectureMaster]

To be fair, BMW is extremely poorly optimized. They cannot even give us a 1080p/60fps mode on the base PS5 without frame generation, so I imagine Series S was something like 720p-900p and 45-ish fps with frame generation. An awful experience.

Still, that's at least two major titles that were delayed on Xbox because of the Series S.

Still a bit bitter than they can't offer proper 60 FPS on PS5 Pro. hopefully they'll further hone their skills with future patches.

 

[kevboard]

badly made game has trouble running on hardware that can't beuteforce through shitty tech.

that's the news here

 

[Bojji]

I'm wondering if that would require another exception from Microsoft like they gave to Larian.

But cutting one mode was much easier, this time devs have to squeeze entire game into this tiny amount of memory.

 

[LectureMaster]

True, when the Ps5 Pro version drops to 46 and below, they've got a lot of room for improvement.

Perhaps, like AW2 and BG3 developers ended up saying, working on the Series S version will be beneficial to all console versions.

Fucking incompetent dev failed Xbox, they only deserve my man's Gamefly rent！

 

[Topher]

But cutting one mode was much easier, this time devs have to squeeze entire game into this tiny amount of memory.

True. I guess it comes down to how much "parity" is required.

 

[LectureMaster]

I'm wondering if that would require another exception from Microsoft like they gave to Larian.

Well, I think if the floodgate is open (for twice), then it could never be shut again.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Honestly, not really. I like Series S. I wasn't buying this game for $70. I'll pick it up down the line at a later date.

you consider yourself a green rat and not mention playing the game when it comes to Game Pass?

 

[winjer]

Is that series s? Yeah I remember everyone saying that within 3 to 4 years xbox will suffer due to series s and here we are. You were all right.

Could be the Series s And the X.
On the Series X, one segment is 10 GB running at 560 GB/s, primarily used for the graphics system, and the other is 6 GB running at 336 GB/s.
On the Series S, it's even worse. It's split into two parts: 8 GB running at 224 GB/s and 2 GB running at 56 GB/s.

So devs have to control what goes into what, or risk hitting the slower pool and performance staling.

 

[ManaByte]

you consider yourself a green rat and not mention playing the game when it comes to Game Pass?

I bought the game on PS5. It ran like shit so I uninstalled. Reinstalled with the Pro patch. It still ran like shit. Waste of money and SSD space. Stellar Blade is a better action game that actually runs well.

 

[adamsapple]

Fucking incompetent dev failed Xbox, they only deserve my man's Gamefly rent！

 

[Punished Miku]

you consider yourself a green rat and not mention playing the game when it comes to Game Pass?

I buy way more games than you do. I've never even seen you discuss actually playing something ...

 

[winjer]

Fucking incompetent dev failed Xbox, they only deserve my man's Gamefly rent！

Have you considered that it's Microsoft who screwed up, by having 2 very different SKUs.
And each by having 2 memory pools, each with very different memory bandwidth speeds.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I bought the game on PS5. It ran like shit so I uninstalled. Reinstalled with the Pro patch. It still ran like shit. Waste of money and SSD space. Stellar Blade is a better action game that actually runs well.

one is using Unreal Engine 5 and other is using Unreal Engine 4.

threat interactive made a video about it.

 

[Topher]

badly made game has trouble running on hardware that can't beuteforce through shitty tech.

that's the news here

That's part of it. Raises questions, however, about Microsoft pointing to "deals made by our partners with other platform holders" as the reason that the game isn't on Xbox.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I buy way more games than you do. I've never even seen you discuss actually playing something ...

im a normie gamer. i play like 3-5 games a year at most. i don't have FOMO and even struggle convincing myself to play videogames. (I don't like the feeling of thinking I'm wasting my time).

im currently playing Persona5. and i don't play games in order to talk about them.

 

[bundylove]

Oh goody the year starts with a dev complaining about his skills

 

[Punished Miku]

i play like 3-5 games a year at most.

I think I bought 3 games and 2 DLC add ons just this week.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Could be the Series s And the X.
On the Series X, one segment is 10 GB running at 560 GB/s, primarily used for the graphics system, and the other is 6 GB running at 336 GB/s.
On the Series S, it's even worse. It's split into two parts: 8 GB running at 224 GB/s and 2 GB running at 56 GB/s.

So devs have to control what goes into what, or risk hitting the slower pool and performance staling.

Yeah that sounds pretty damn bad. Luckily for Xbox there hasn't been many devs coming across this issue but they should have designed the systems with more memory across the board.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

So it sounds like the devs weren't worthy of their GOTY awards they cried about. Need about a decade to get those skills!

The way this game performs is just awful all around!

 

[winjer]

Yeah that sounds pretty damn bad. Luckily for Xbox there hasn't been many devs coming across this issue but they should have designed the systems with more memory across the board.

Yes, it can be really bad.
Remember the clusterfuck that was the memory split on the GTX 970?
It went so bad, that Nvidia never tried that strategy ever again.

 

[Codes 208]

As much as I want to be part of the ‘haha, fuck you series s’ bandwagon, I gotta go with the devil’s advocates here. The game runs like shit even on the best hardware

That's part of it. Raises questions, however, about Microsoft pointing to "deals made by our partners with other platform holders" as the reason that the game isn't on Xbox.

Thats a given though, theyre not going to bad talk their own product

Theyd rather save face and secretly send optimization ambassadors to help with the port like they did with the first destiny

 

[jm89]

Remember when MS said this

We'd prefer not to comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders but we can confirm that the delay is not due to Xbox platform limitations that have been raised to us.

 

[LordCBH]

Jez Corden and the green rats seething at this

 

[Rockman33]

Series S isn’t a very powerful system. We all know this.

But this game is optimized worth shit. Runs terribly on a PS5 pro. If that can’t get 60 fps without frame gen they have a lot of work to do.

 

[LectureMaster]

Have you considered that it's Microsoft who screwed up, by having 2 very different SKUs.
And each by having 2 memory pools, each with very different memory bandwidth speeds.

Lol you did know I was poking fun at Adam right.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

So in conclusion?.... Did they over come it? Do they need 10 more years? They going to give up?

 

[adamsapple]

So it sounds like the devs weren't worthy of their GOTY awards they cried about. Need about a decade to get those skills!

The way this game performs is just awful all around!

Series S isn’t a very powerful system. We all know this.

But this game is optimized worth shit. Runs terribly on a PS5 pro. If that can’t get 60 fps without frame gen they have a lot of work to do.

Per the DF video, the one on one fight where the game seems to drop frame-gen, it drops to 40~ on PS5 Pro.

Clearly there's plenty of improvements / optimizations that can be done across the board, and not just for Series S.

Lol you did know I was poking fun at Adam right.

Adam loves and forgives you all the same. Bask in the light of the two lord patrons of gaming. Gamepass and Gamefly.

 

[nordique]

“Need a couple years to optimize for xbox, it should be ready right when our timed exclusivity runs out”

 

[Edmund]

Stick to this game, greenrats. I'm sure the potato series S can run this.

 

[LectureMaster]

Bask in the light of the two lord patrons of gaming. Gamepass and Gamefly.

Not gonna lie they are both great services, I am a big fan. I guess that's why I have so many crushes on you, lmao.

 

[Gaiff]

Have you considered that it's Microsoft who screwed up, by having 2 very different SKUs.
And each by having 2 memory pools, each with very different memory bandwidth speeds.

You’re correct, but he was being flippant lol.

 

[balls of snow]

I mean.. it runs on the steamdeck.

 

[Kokoloko85]

But Ms hinted Playstation paid for exclusivity…..

https://www.mensjournal.com/videogames/black-myth-wukong-sony-secret-exclusivity-deal-report
Following that, a Microsoft spokesperson suggested the existence of a secret exclusivity deal. "We can't comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders, but we remain focused on making Xbox the best platform for gamers, and great games are at the center of that," said Microsoft.

Reports from IGN and Digital Foundry suggest that Sony and Game Science have signed a private deal, though whether it's for timed exclusivity is unclear. Previously, conflicting reports suggested that Game Science did not release Wukong on Xbox due to technical issues, but that seems to be incorrect.

Your telling me those slimy tards at MS, a multi trillion dollar tech company didnt know about the memory issues, and instead tried insinuate that there might be an exclusive deal between PS and Xbox…

 

[mayham2199]

True, when the Ps5 Pro version drops to 46 and below, they've got a lot of room for improvement.

Perhaps, like AW2 and BG3 developers ended up saying, working on the Series S version will be beneficial to all console versions.

Yep and all at the expense of Xbox owners. With MS spreading BS rumors as well on top of it misleading their customers.