The Real Abed
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Yeah. You know. Those things that have been in the Notification Center since it was released? Weather and Stocks? Let's hope they opened the API to allow other apps to put stuff there.
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WWDC13 Thread of iOS 7 & Mac OS X 10.9, where a whole new world's developing
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jts
...hate me...
My wishlist. Throwing in everything and the kitchen sink.
Keychain Access
Better Safari iCloud features (forms sync, keychain sync, history sync, etc)
Omnibar for iOS Safari, jesus christ it's about time
Widgets of some sort, yes
Native/App Store VNC/ScreenSharing client app by Apple
Tighter local (bluetooth and/or wifi) sync between devices. Answer phone call on Mac, iPad if you must. Same for text messages. Any text message, not only iMessages.
Let me attach files starting from the mail client dammit. And not only pictures. Holy hell.
Smart keyboard detection.
Setting default apps.
More shortcuts on the home screen. Contacts and other shit.
1 or 2 customizable shortcuts on the lock screen besides the camera. Flashlight comes to mind.
Siri has so much to improve, down to recognition of stuff. It's just very dumb as off now. Let it be able to learn. Yes, Siri, you know that album I'm always listening to. Don't become Voice Control 2.0.
Lazors.
Deeper integration of 3rd party stuff. Open your APIs more Apple.
I'm sure I'll remember more stuff. Apple will probably address one or two of these if we're lucky.
Keychain Access
Better Safari iCloud features (forms sync, keychain sync, history sync, etc)
Omnibar for iOS Safari, jesus christ it's about time
Widgets of some sort, yes
Native/App Store VNC/ScreenSharing client app by Apple
Tighter local (bluetooth and/or wifi) sync between devices. Answer phone call on Mac, iPad if you must. Same for text messages. Any text message, not only iMessages.
Let me attach files starting from the mail client dammit. And not only pictures. Holy hell.
Smart keyboard detection.
Setting default apps.
More shortcuts on the home screen. Contacts and other shit.
1 or 2 customizable shortcuts on the lock screen besides the camera. Flashlight comes to mind.
Siri has so much to improve, down to recognition of stuff. It's just very dumb as off now. Let it be able to learn. Yes, Siri, you know that album I'm always listening to. Don't become Voice Control 2.0.
Lazors.
Deeper integration of 3rd party stuff. Open your APIs more Apple.
I'm sure I'll remember more stuff. Apple will probably address one or two of these if we're lucky.
Thanks!
Yes, but it has been rare the last few years for Gruber not to have any pieces of inside info. So as an indicator of the secrecy levels inside apple for both these OS releases, It's a little interesting.
Is an (un)educated guess really that helpful less than a day before the answer is revealed?
PotatoeMasher
Member
The nothing is the story. Better to read his actual post now: http://daringfireball.net/2013/06/wwdc_2013_expectations
I hate him so much
He makes good points, what's the problem?
jts
...hate me...
Really? I find my self every so often typing search terms in the URL bar on my iPad.
Maybe there could be a toggle in the settings to enable/disable it, but that would be asking way too much.
He makes those points in the most pretentious smug way imaginable
PotatoeMasher
Member
Who is your favorite blogger? Honest question. Just trying to understand this point of view that seems to be common.
My issue is that without search bar integration it was much easier to type in partial URLs or keywords from bookmarks and get to the right page. Now I have to double-check the field to make sure it's doing what I want it to.
Now, on iPads and iPhones it's not as easy as just tabbing to get to the search bar, but on OS X I feel like it's hobbling me.
Leak from WSJ, confirms flatter design rumors and iRadio. Also a way to share photos and videos.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324798904578531661685819892.html?mod=rss_Technology
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324798904578531661685819892.html?mod=rss_Technology
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
So nothing new.
The sharing photos and videos is probably AirDrop which was already rumoured.
I dont really have a favorite tech blogger, for politics I like Wonkette and Digby
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It begins:
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
killertofu
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Is that Ive?
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Looks like he may actually do the unthinkable and talk up stage. Unless he's still too shy.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
The speed he talks it's gonna be a four hour show.
Isn't he usually? I remember seeing him plenty of times in front row.
-Pyromaniac-
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but now be has a folder with him!!!
PotatoeMasher
Member
I think all of the SVPs are there in the crowd usually (along with formers like Bertrand Serlet, though I doubt Scott Forstall will be there). Jony doesn't like talking in front of crowds, so if he does a thing it'll be a pretty big deal. His being there early likely means some involvement, though. I can only remember his being on stage when the unibody MacBook Pros were first announced and he passed around a chassis.
I was joking mostly. I know the SVPs are all at these things and that Ive rarely speaks in front of audiences.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Ive's appearance on Blue Peter was pretty neat. He seems like a humble guy and you can tell he's uncomfortable even being on TV (or at least I thought so at the timecan't watch this right now to confirm): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SD70jM1uwo
It's sort of goofy how Forstall is only thought of as the skeumorphism guy when the Safari project and iOS as a whole doesn't happen Sioux his influence.
Really interesting to hear about his pivotal role in the company in the last decade on that iMore podcast about Safari.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I always do. Why is that a confession? It's brilliant.
I didn't read that as pretentious. If what he says is true, I like it. I want to be surprised at the keynotes again, rather than knowing all the major stuff through leaks beforehand.
Yeah that sounds like AirDrop. At least it solidifies what we do know as likely to be happening.
I wonder how this lines up with "what you've heard about iOS 7 is wrong" though. If I would guess, I would think skeuomorphism is still around where it makes sense rather than being obliterated completely.
I'm in the camp who believe skeuomorphism isn't the polar opposite of flat design and it isn't necessarily the enemy everybody makes of it.
Hope i'm not the only one who would be disappointed if this ios7 "reskin" is just some changed icons and swapping some of the ui chrome textures and colors. I haven't liked any of the skeuomorph thus far and I'm glad they are moving away from that, but I'm hoping we see some deeper changes.
My iPhone's body is ready for a software upgrade.
My iPhone's body is ready for a software upgrade.
So it has TouchWiz colors?Supposed leaks of iOS 7 (courtesy of @appletipoff)
PotatoeMasher
Member
I don't listen to iMore, but I've enjoyed Don Melton on both of his Debug appearances with Rene and Guy. Were those episodes just shared to both podcasts or do I have more to listen to?
I hope we get a fair take on Scott's role as well as the full dynamics of NeXT -> Apple transition that was lacking for me in the Jobs bio. NeXT through Apple 2007 is something I'm looking forward to reading about once NDAs expire and feelings aren't so raw. I feel like I know very little about Avie—probably should read the copy of "Steve Jobs & the NeXT Big Thing" that I've had hanging around my bookshelf for a decade, but I realize that only covers the early 90s.
I think it's determined those are just some doofus with Photoshop. As far as anyone is aware, no visual leaks so far. We might actually be surprised for the first time in a while.
He can be smug at times, but there's nothing smug about that post.
Only one more sleep left.
My predictions, so I can score myself later. Or for eating crow.
Widget API ( they remain in NC)
NC improvements with better hit targets
More multitasking APIs for background downloading or other tasks.
Since Cook mentioned opening up of APIs I expect that we'll see iOS 7 allow apps to access more system level stuff. Doubt he'd say it only to have it waiting for iOS 8 or later. So one example could be using the faster rendering of built in safari for third party browsers.
More Siri services
More Maps database partners and a statement about better poi results
A better way for apps to share documents and have one document be edited by multiple apps without needing to make copies of that doc.
Plus the style redesign, sharing seevices and the iradio stuff.
Aside from the current Mac OS leaks (finder tabs, proper full screen multimonitor support) I really have no idea what to expect. Well, I guess a similar UI skinning with less linen and leather.
Plus updates to the macbook pros, airs and I'll say the mac pro, too.
My predictions, so I can score myself later. Or for eating crow.
Widget API ( they remain in NC)
NC improvements with better hit targets
More multitasking APIs for background downloading or other tasks.
Since Cook mentioned opening up of APIs I expect that we'll see iOS 7 allow apps to access more system level stuff. Doubt he'd say it only to have it waiting for iOS 8 or later. So one example could be using the faster rendering of built in safari for third party browsers.
More Siri services
More Maps database partners and a statement about better poi results
A better way for apps to share documents and have one document be edited by multiple apps without needing to make copies of that doc.
Plus the style redesign, sharing seevices and the iradio stuff.
Aside from the current Mac OS leaks (finder tabs, proper full screen multimonitor support) I really have no idea what to expect. Well, I guess a similar UI skinning with less linen and leather.
Plus updates to the macbook pros, airs and I'll say the mac pro, too.
At the risk of missing out, I'll wait to see what they have tomorrow and if it's in stable enough shape.
(Also, I heard they might be moving away from UDID registration for betas after iOS6.)
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Ive is funny in the sales videos they make because he comes off just as pretentious as you'd expect from someone in his role, but in his personal appearances he's been charming because you can tell he's a shy nerd who's just really fucking good at design. He should show up to talk about the decisions behind the new look and feel, even if it's brief.
If I get these, I'll be happy:
Default apps, including all apps having the same abilities and features as Apple's stock apps
Centralized storage with metadata to determine which files can be used by which apps
Ability to get rid of stock apps (even if it's a hacky solution in parental controls)
Sync between Notification Center and apps across all devices, and even within the same device (like if you open an app and see the content that was involved in the push notification, the notification should disappear from the tray)
Timed background download API
If I get these, I'll be happy:
Default apps, including all apps having the same abilities and features as Apple's stock apps
Centralized storage with metadata to determine which files can be used by which apps
Ability to get rid of stock apps (even if it's a hacky solution in parental controls)
Sync between Notification Center and apps across all devices, and even within the same device (like if you open an app and see the content that was involved in the push notification, the notification should disappear from the tray)
Timed background download API
Really itching to get an RSS feed or something in there without jailbreaking.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Nah, it's nearly the same as it's been the last two years.
Also, demon's post reminds me that I also want iCloud to actually work.
I only want a few things for iOS:
-Better Keyboard. Just pay Swype the licensing fee, I can't deal with the tiny button typing.
-Get rid of the search input on Safari, all other browsers have gotten rid of this because it wastes space, even moreso on mobile, please follow suit.
-Chromeless Safari in portrait mode. Dunno why you can only do this in landscape. Again stop wasting space.
-Ability to clear badges. This is something everyone who uses badges could do but doesn't, not just Apple. I don't read every email so my count keeps growing, I don't listen to every podcast so the count grows, just let me swipe over it to clear it or something.
For OSX:
-Basically neither the software or hardware supports touch interfaces. It's happening with or without them but for my next notebook/ultrabook/whatever it's a basic expectation. Especially for developers you'd think they'd put it in there.
-Better Keyboard. Just pay Swype the licensing fee, I can't deal with the tiny button typing.
-Get rid of the search input on Safari, all other browsers have gotten rid of this because it wastes space, even moreso on mobile, please follow suit.
-Chromeless Safari in portrait mode. Dunno why you can only do this in landscape. Again stop wasting space.
-Ability to clear badges. This is something everyone who uses badges could do but doesn't, not just Apple. I don't read every email so my count keeps growing, I don't listen to every podcast so the count grows, just let me swipe over it to clear it or something.
For OSX:
-Basically neither the software or hardware supports touch interfaces. It's happening with or without them but for my next notebook/ultrabook/whatever it's a basic expectation. Especially for developers you'd think they'd put it in there.
Most devs will be running iOS 6 during the conference, so it's been released on iOS 6. iOS 7 may look different. (Let's hope.)
Get ready for disappointment, only the safari search and maybe the portrait fullscreen even has a chance of happening, and even still might not due to the search and URL keyboards being different