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WWDC13 Thread of iOS 7 & Mac OS X 10.9, where a whole new world's developing
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Really impressed by what they showed today. With the exception of a few of the icons, I think iOS 7 looks amazing and is way exceeding my expectations in look and features. And that Mac Pro looks fantastic. My wallet is crying between preordering Xbone (and PS4 tonight) and setting some aside for that Mac Pro.
On iOS I really only started using it in the last few months every once in a while, before that never since it was released.
Perhaps this is rolled into the new Siri features.....? (With a typing option?)
Nihilistic Monk
Member
I think that design is pretty "Post-PC". Makes the Mac Pro into a "Proper" Professional Workstation if you ask me. This shit is right back to Silicon Graphics era shit, and with a price to match I'd bet.
Pixar/Pro Photogs/Video Editors are NOT in a "Post PC" world yet. There's a difference between consumer and Pro (NOT enthusiast).
That shit is going to be a tough sell for a 19" rack however...
That's my worry. How long have we had thunderbolt? 2 years? Still not a HDD caddy in sight. Update has been slow to say the least. Worse than firewires early days even. It's only good if people make things for it.
victreeb3l
Member
i really, really hate those fucking icons. horrible designs and even worse color choices. but the glass/transparency is great.
they're right. apple will probably sell less than 300k of these. its geared toward the serious professional who will always need beast machines for serious work. the casual computer user wont really need anything besides a tablet these days.
they're right. apple will probably sell less than 300k of these. its geared toward the serious professional who will always need beast machines for serious work. the casual computer user wont really need anything besides a tablet these days.
Junior Mint
Member
I think the Safari icon looks like something thats made quickly to show a concept. Either way, live icons?
Watch the video again, the stocks icon is clearly flashing. Or am i high?
Edit: The thin line rotating weird illusion .
Keylime
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Put me in the "very impressed" category.
Going to download it and check it out later, but in general I think they found a great way to freshen things up without changing the enter paradigm.
The color scheme/icons don't bother me, but I can see how they'd be viewed as kiddie or something to that effect.
Going to download it and check it out later, but in general I think they found a great way to freshen things up without changing the enter paradigm.
The color scheme/icons don't bother me, but I can see how they'd be viewed as kiddie or something to that effect.
Yep yep.
What the fuck, Iphone 4S doesn't have Airdrop?
Either does iPad retina (3rd gen)...that was a big fuck you to me.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Pretty much. No fundamental flaws and lots of time for the trivial stuff like icon styles to hopefully be addressed.
Developer feedback is taken seriously and there will be some changes before GM.
Auron_Kale
Member
Really love the look of ios 7 actually, though I could do without the bubbles for Game Center. Other than that, I normally use dark backgrounds so I doubt I'm sure the transparency of the command center will really bother me. Yeah it's colorful, but I really think it's quite fun tbh.
MBA is what I expected, a nice bump overall and glad that there's no retina as it'd probably kill the battery on it anyways.
Mac Pro, wow that definitely looks interesting but I think it looks kinda cool. Can't wait to see it in person later this year.
MBA is what I expected, a nice bump overall and glad that there's no retina as it'd probably kill the battery on it anyways.
Mac Pro, wow that definitely looks interesting but I think it looks kinda cool. Can't wait to see it in person later this year.
"Post PC" does not mean all PC's disappear. It never did.
Treefingers
Member
just got iOS 7 installed.. this is really an ugly POS.
hoping for MAJOR changes.
Also additionally ugly on iPhone 4 with no translucency.
hoping for MAJOR changes.
Also additionally ugly on iPhone 4 with no translucency.
bean breath
Member
Has someone already made the comparison between the new Mac Pro and that old Braun coffee maker?
Napoleonthechimp
Member
Huh? There are plenty of them around if you look.
victreeb3l
Member
toolbar
table view (spotlight still there)
tab bar
switch
slider
refresh
progress bar
nav bar
alert
ugh, now that i spend more time looking at this, some of this is just plain ugly. i hate that blue theyre using for the text and it makes no sense why some buttons dont have icons. how are users supposed to know whats tappable and what isnt? similar problems like metro.
honestly looks like a google product. i doubt theyll fix some of these things by launch too :/ ah well. iOS7 is worth an upgrade for control center alone.
http://images.apple.com/home/images/osx_hero.jpg & http://images.apple.com/home/images/osx_hero_2x.jpg
Like what I saw but, kinda disappointed my 4th gen iPod touch won't be able to run iOS 7. Downloading 10.9 now to install on an external HD. The new Mac Pro looks sweet
Are you just hyperbolizing for your post to get attention or do you actually believe that it's so bad to be labeled an "ugly POS"?
Why do I need the clock app to be live? Doesn't the time at the top of the screen do that for me?
Junior Mint
Member
iPhone users were jealous of all the dual clocks that Android users had.
Treefingers
Member
Yes I really believe that. To me it looks repulsive.
They've got a few months to refine the look based on some of the complaints.
They don't do it often, but at times they do.
the same colour pallet was used for your avatar
are any of the icons 'live' (clock, calendar?)
that would seem like it would need to be an API thing for apps but maybe its only for like 3 apple ones..
also I'm always amazed at how people can think some android custom homescreens look good (see the old android homescreen thread)... this sort of reminds me of that
victreeb3l
Member
i sure hope so. i know they were really running behind on iOS7 so im hoping some of these were just placeholders. im still very pleased with it overall.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
It's a confident design, so it's going to get split opinions. I generally like the ideas but not the execution.
The one argument against the icons with which I strongly agree is that there is unintentional color pairing between apps that have nothing to do with each other. Camera & Settings are both grey, Game Center & Photos are white with colorful dots, Stocks and Clock are black, etc.
The one argument against the icons with which I strongly agree is that there is unintentional color pairing between apps that have nothing to do with each other. Camera & Settings are both grey, Game Center & Photos are white with colorful dots, Stocks and Clock are black, etc.
Keylime
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Those all go perfectly together!
Camera/Settings are both invocative of physical, mechanical things.
Gamer Center/Photos are both interactive apps dealing with sharing with others.
Stocks/Clocks are both for the working person to both stay on time and check their portfolios.
...perfectly logical!
metsallica
Member
Was wondering that too! Skeumorphin' time can run but it can't hide I s'pose.What the fuck is this garbage?
On first blush, I find the new look aesthetically pleasing. If for no other reason than it is different, and different feels nice after so many years of the same.
That being said,
I still like iOS well enough to stick with it into the foreseeable future. Upgraded multitasking for apps is welcome, as is the WebOS-inspired app switcher. I didn't expect changes like the ability to set different default apps, but it's still disappointing that such a simple option wasn't made available.
AirDrop being restricted to the iPhone 5 and up (and newer iPads) is on the same level of frustration as no turn-by-turn for iPhone 4 - my fiance has an iPhone 4 and when they initially discussed the AirDrop functionality, I was excited to be able to make use of it, but it was not to be, at least until she upgrades in the future. I'm used to Apple arbitrarily holding back functionality, but I never lost sleep over lack of Siri or Panoramas. This was a bigger impact, and one that can't easily be gotten around by using turn-by-turn in Google Maps. The ability to share management of a single PhotoStream was a happy get, at least.
I'm excited to be able to look at something different, even if the underlying functionality is broadly the same.
edit: Ah! The quick toggle options are a godsend on iPhone - no more going through the settings app just to adjust brightness.
That being said,
I still like iOS well enough to stick with it into the foreseeable future. Upgraded multitasking for apps is welcome, as is the WebOS-inspired app switcher. I didn't expect changes like the ability to set different default apps, but it's still disappointing that such a simple option wasn't made available.
AirDrop being restricted to the iPhone 5 and up (and newer iPads) is on the same level of frustration as no turn-by-turn for iPhone 4 - my fiance has an iPhone 4 and when they initially discussed the AirDrop functionality, I was excited to be able to make use of it, but it was not to be, at least until she upgrades in the future. I'm used to Apple arbitrarily holding back functionality, but I never lost sleep over lack of Siri or Panoramas. This was a bigger impact, and one that can't easily be gotten around by using turn-by-turn in Google Maps. The ability to share management of a single PhotoStream was a happy get, at least.
I'm excited to be able to look at something different, even if the underlying functionality is broadly the same.
edit: Ah! The quick toggle options are a godsend on iPhone - no more going through the settings app just to adjust brightness.
Regarding looks, I like most of it. Particularly the clean look of photos, music, mail and safari.
I think the transparency is overused. I think it's OK for things that slide over the main UI partially (non interactive parts of keyboard, control center) but it just looks tacky with Siri and NC, imo. I would have preferred a lighter, Google Now style background for those full screen elements.
Also not liking the safari icon or what they've shown of game center. I hope they can iterate on that a few more times before launch.
I think the transparency is overused. I think it's OK for things that slide over the main UI partially (non interactive parts of keyboard, control center) but it just looks tacky with Siri and NC, imo. I would have preferred a lighter, Google Now style background for those full screen elements.
Also not liking the safari icon or what they've shown of game center. I hope they can iterate on that a few more times before launch.
Treefingers
Member
The clock is, nothing else (apart from the calendar).
Thankfully it seems like it was really rushed, so I expect a lot of changes.
It's frustrating for me too, because I have a 4S, but it has to do with a WiFi mode supported by the 5's chipset. This isn't some arbitrary Apple "you can't have it" thing.
victreeb3l
Member
im not sure what im more excited about, mavericks or iOS7. finder tabs and especially multi-displays are a godsend. GODSEND.
i dont think anyone will complain about the new features. its some of the weird aesthetic choices thats annoying people, and rightfully so.
i dont think anyone will complain about the new features. its some of the weird aesthetic choices thats annoying people, and rightfully so.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Just installed it and played around.
It feels half-finished and quite a bit more complex than iOS 6.
It feels half-finished and quite a bit more complex than iOS 6.
Fair enough, though I'd be interested in a more expanded explanation on the WiFi mode that the 4 and 4S are lacking. The iPad 2 came out before the 4S, and it's supported - wonder why it has the necessary components? (I understand more in the case of the mini, iPad 3-4, and iPod touch 5G, considering they all released later).
The dude was the star of the show. He killed it each time he was on stage. totally surprised me as I didn't think he was capable of being so comfortable on stage.