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WWDC13 Thread of iOS 7 & Mac OS X 10.9, where a whole new world's developing
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Wait what did they change about the dock? Left side dock is the best
Why not leave a page empty if you want to see the wallpaper?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Agree with all of this. It's pretty ironic that it feels more bloated when it looks so much simpler and cleaner. However, it's undeniable that the OS has slowed down a bit compared to iOS6. Keyboard in particular is not as responsive.
The first impression I get on my 4s is...there's no design language. Take the Message app, for example. It's the only app, so far as I can tell, where multiple UI elements each have their own weight and momentum. Instead of being a cool effect that you see throughout the OS, it's a weird one-off and very jarring.
The parallax on the icons is a silly gimmick and I wish you could turn it off.
The command center is extremely cluttered on the 4s screen.
The parallax on the icons is a silly gimmick and I wish you could turn it off.
The command center is extremely cluttered on the 4s screen.
The idea is that you are not suppose to be staring at your desktop. The phone is a tool that is pulled out when you need it. If you want to stare at photos there is a photo app.
It's the first beta and in development. All logging has been turned up to maximum. This isn't the time to be comparing performance.
No change then.
If you delete it do podcasts get restored to the music app where they belong as with iOS6?
Keylime
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Battery life seems the same to me on the 5...but that's with no scientific measurements and less than 24 hours of time with it.
May be that people are using it more heavily since there is a new toy to play with?
Definitely isn't noticeable to me if it is sucking more power at this point.
May be that people are using it more heavily since there is a new toy to play with?
Definitely isn't noticeable to me if it is sucking more power at this point.
WordAssassin
Member
Couple more notes:
-The cool animation when sending iMessages (where the blue surges through the keyboard to make the bubble) isn't turned on yet
-Skype currently is not compatible with iOS 7, it crashes when trying to sign in
-Making custom wallpaper is a fucking nightmare. Since it does the parallax scrolling now, it zooms in on your image so that it has the proper "depth" when you view it from the sides. This makes creating custom wallpapers that fit around your apps or sit on your dock either impossible or just the biggest pain in the ass imaginable. It doesn't matter how you set the image when you make it your homescreen or your lockscreen, it just zooms in on it and fuck it up. Hopefully this is something they can tweak going forward - obviously I understand WHY it does it, but it's just a major hassle now.
-The cool animation when sending iMessages (where the blue surges through the keyboard to make the bubble) isn't turned on yet
-Skype currently is not compatible with iOS 7, it crashes when trying to sign in
-Making custom wallpaper is a fucking nightmare. Since it does the parallax scrolling now, it zooms in on your image so that it has the proper "depth" when you view it from the sides. This makes creating custom wallpapers that fit around your apps or sit on your dock either impossible or just the biggest pain in the ass imaginable. It doesn't matter how you set the image when you make it your homescreen or your lockscreen, it just zooms in on it and fuck it up. Hopefully this is something they can tweak going forward - obviously I understand WHY it does it, but it's just a major hassle now.
infiniteloop
Member
Had iOS 7 for half a day, battery life was horrendous and my phone kept restarting.
Back in good Ol' 6.1.4
Back in good Ol' 6.1.4
PotatoeMasher
Member
In case anyone else is seeing this: I had the exact same issue, restored a second time and all is well. Only possible difference is I had installed the SDK and Mobile Device Installer. The first time around I think iTunes failed to restore properly and redoing it with the same backup worked like a charm.
killertofu
Member
Anyone know what this case is? Never seen it before:
That's an iPod Touch
Personalization...it's not to stare at the picture. It's just to make the phone feel a little more my own. Same principle applies with the wallpaper on a desktop. People don't usually sit there and look at it, but they still change it. People also like to change icons on their phone to set up themes as well. Itd be nice to do some of this without having to jailbreak your phone.
Itd be nice to have the ability to set up the icons at the bottom of the screen and have a picture I took on a family trip or something else that has meaning to me set up at the top where it can catch my eye for a second.
Its not as bad as it used to be though; the more I think about it, the more the opening of the lock screen has helped with this. Being able to cover the whole screen and not just a strip in the middle is a big change.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Holy double post (Safari crash I guess). Apologies.
I'll take "What is a Beta?" for $500, Alex.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
iPhone 4 is three years old.
No reason why anyone other than light users should still be using that device by the time iOS 7 comes out.
No reason why anyone other than light users should still be using that device by the time iOS 7 comes out.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Easy access to spotlight was one of the big things I wanted. I use spotlight all the time in OSX.. now I will in iOS as well
Do they still sell it?
4S will likely subsume it by the time iOS7 is actually launched.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
It's also likely not the main focus right now. The beta just came out. I wouldn't be surprised if they continued to tweak it.
Correct answer, this was confirmed last week.
Keylime
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Weird change: group texts don't show you who was on the message without tapping on the "contacts" touch point on the top right of the iMessage.
Didn't even realize it was a group text I replied to until someone else random replied...looked like it came from my cousin.
Not a fan of that adjustment, methinks.
Didn't even realize it was a group text I replied to until someone else random replied...looked like it came from my cousin.
Not a fan of that adjustment, methinks.
WordAssassin
Member
They won't by the time iOS 7 actually releases to the public.
Than why support it at all? Id it's gonna be as shit as iOS 4 waa on 3G when that came out it seems smarter to just keep those devices on the old OS.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
The "share" button looks so amateur, same as any of the home screen icons with circles in them. The proportions are all off. Apple's ones, I mean.I agree that shadows seem to have a lot to do with it, but I also think a lot of the icons are just plainly half-assed.
I also think it's a mistake to throw away everything for the sake of it, including the UI icons from before that worked and looked just fine. Something like this:
(from http://dribbble.com/shots/1109500-iOS-7)
would achieve what they're going for so much better, imo.
Like, why change the signal bars to circles? everyone knew what they meant and they looked fine. I'm just baffled at a lot of the design decisions.
It moved to the share button, along with Flickr and Vimeo.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
No widgets at all.
No share, no weather, no stocks.
Or at least, I can't find a way to enable them. It's a really weird omission. I looked in the release notes and there was nothing for notification centre.
killertofu
Member
How do I get the search bar? I've accidentally gotten it while I was getting the notification center
Stocks is still there but turned off by default. Really annoyed they've removed the Facebook and Twitter widgets as I used them a lot, hopefully they might add them back in.
NekoFever
Member
Which share button is that?
Pull down on the home screen, but not from the top.
killertofu
Member
That's not user friendly at all. Hope they change that.
Also, this looks so good on a white iPhone.... I really wanted to change up to black on my next one but I don't know if I can.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Sure it is. Once you discover it, it conceptually makes sense, and the animation supports it. Notification Center was never obvious before iOS7, where they added the arrows as hints.
brotkasten
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Auron_Kale
Member
/shrugs I've personalized my phone to where I do have a blank 'home screen' and a second screen for where my apps are. Have been doing this since ios 5 actually and the phone definitely tells others that it's mine.
(home)
(page 1)
Once I do upgrade later this year, luckily I'll be able to cull my apps even moreso.
Link
The Autumn Wind
I also think it's a poor design choice. Not sure why they didn't leave Spotlight to the left like it's always been.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
You can get to it from any homescreen. It's also consistent with most apps where the search field is hidden at the top and you have to pull to get to it.
Technosteve
Banned
we can't talk about it technically
Been using it most of the day on my iPhone 4, some thoughts:
- Functionality overall is improved. Multitasking is nice seeing a preview of each app and discarding an app is faster as well. The actual selecting of an app is faster, but swiping left to right is a bit slower than iOS 6. Whether thats because it's a beta or because my phone is relatively old.
- I quite like the way the apps look when your'e actually in them, but i'm not entirely sold on the home screen and some of the icons. Maybe it's because i'm missing out on all the snazzy effects, but some of it looks like ass. The dock bar is terrible, as is grouped apps icon, sticks out like a sore thumb and the fact that it's missing the transparency is horse shit. I hope it's changed for release.
-The quick select menu is pretty good, it's been a long time coming and should have been included sooner really. That type of shit has been standard in Android for ages. One caveat is that it's missing a quick select for cellular toggle, so i have to go through the shitty menus as always the activate 3G which is a pain in the ass. Hope fully those 5 icons are interchangeable come release.
-The safari app is great. Appreciate the added space now that the bottom bar tucks away when your browsing, as well as the one search/address bar at the top. Nice and streamlined. In saying that they seem to have chosen a bizarre look for the way you switch between multiple web pages. They've supposed to simplified things, yet they have this shitty tilt shift effect that runs like shit and looks like ass all in one. The OG one in iOS 6 was a lot better than this.
Overall it runs a half second slower than iOS 6, but now where near as bad as iOS 4 on 3rd gen iphone. If it runs like this when release hits then i'm gonna give it a miss.
Also Bejeweled doesn't seem to run on this beta as well, which is annoying.
- Functionality overall is improved. Multitasking is nice seeing a preview of each app and discarding an app is faster as well. The actual selecting of an app is faster, but swiping left to right is a bit slower than iOS 6. Whether thats because it's a beta or because my phone is relatively old.
- I quite like the way the apps look when your'e actually in them, but i'm not entirely sold on the home screen and some of the icons. Maybe it's because i'm missing out on all the snazzy effects, but some of it looks like ass. The dock bar is terrible, as is grouped apps icon, sticks out like a sore thumb and the fact that it's missing the transparency is horse shit. I hope it's changed for release.
-The quick select menu is pretty good, it's been a long time coming and should have been included sooner really. That type of shit has been standard in Android for ages. One caveat is that it's missing a quick select for cellular toggle, so i have to go through the shitty menus as always the activate 3G which is a pain in the ass. Hope fully those 5 icons are interchangeable come release.
-The safari app is great. Appreciate the added space now that the bottom bar tucks away when your browsing, as well as the one search/address bar at the top. Nice and streamlined. In saying that they seem to have chosen a bizarre look for the way you switch between multiple web pages. They've supposed to simplified things, yet they have this shitty tilt shift effect that runs like shit and looks like ass all in one. The OG one in iOS 6 was a lot better than this.
Overall it runs a half second slower than iOS 6, but now where near as bad as iOS 4 on 3rd gen iphone. If it runs like this when release hits then i'm gonna give it a miss.
Also Bejeweled doesn't seem to run on this beta as well, which is annoying.
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The Autumn Wind
Valid reasons, but when you already have Notification Center coming from the top, it's a bit convoluted. Seems to be a complication Apple is usually good at avoiding.
Technosteve
Banned
Putting the phone to sleep has a nice soft delay, i like it.