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WWDC13 Thread of iOS 7 & Mac OS X 10.9, where a whole new world's developing
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Since they upped the number of open tabs, the tilt view is a faster way of going through them. I personally think it looks nice.
victreeb3l
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actually, once you see it working, its a better way to get spotlight than before. pulling down to refresh or search is very common in apps these days so its not something users wont be familiar with. its intuitive. also as mentioned earlier, it helps to access spotlight no matter what homescreen youre in.
I agree that shadows seem to have a lot to do with it, but I also think a lot of the icons are just plainly half-assed.
I also think it's a mistake to throw away everything for the sake of it, including the UI icons from before that worked and looked just fine. Something like this:
(from http://dribbble.com/shots/1109500-iOS-7)
would achieve what they're going for so much better, imo.
Like, why change the signal bars to circles? everyone knew what they meant and they looked fine. I'm just baffled at a lot of the design decisions.
oh man, the glass works SO MUCH BETTER with shadows. also the icons looked like they were changed for the sake of change. its dumb. old maps icons look so much better.
i hope apple adds shadows to add a bit more depth to the glass and icons.
Dunno, maybe it's because it runs so shit on iPhone 4 and the fact that i rarely have more the 3 tabs open at a time anyway.
Would have much preferred something similar to the multitasking view.
I'm betting (and hoping) that iOS 7 is to iOS what OS 10.0 was to OS X. There were a lot of elements that simply weren't that refined and a bit garish; and I say that as someone who *likes* pinstripes and hated the general drift away from color that's taken hold since 10.5; ideal OS X GUI for me is the unified look of 10.4, albeit in an alternate universe where the fat-bordered abomination of Brushed metal was never invented.
I wish Apple would make InfinitFolders(jailbreak that lets you put ALL of your apps into one folder) a reality on ios7. I like all of my apps besides the 4 I use regularly(text,music,phone and twitter) in a nice clean look.
Why is this so hard Apple? Android has its "App screen", why can;t ios do InfiniFolder regularly?
Why is this so hard Apple? Android has its "App screen", why can;t ios do InfiniFolder regularly?
They did.
Did I completely over look this?
e: every screenshot I see, people have 90 different folders on ios7
stuff that hasn't been shown but people are seeing and talking about as part of dev builds are covered by NDA.
but every news site gets the beta and talks about changes anyway. only serious devs seem to follow it.
That's awesome news! Really no reason for me to jailbreak besides getting rid of the Newstand app
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You can hide it in a folder now, at least.
infiniteloop
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I couldn't figure out how you close apps from the multi tasking window, just watched the Apple video again, you have to swipe up on the window preview.
We're not devs, and the discussion would be about iOS 7 in general. Plus, there's the iOS 7 beta begging thread. I think it's okay. But I'll leave it up to the higher ups to decide, but I wouldn't mind making an OT for iOS 7, like there is for iOS 6.
I love the new multitasking window, but swiping down seems more natural. If anything, they should have it available to swipe up or down to close an app.
The neat thing is that you can swipe multiple apps away at once this way.
For sure, there are some UI button prompts (or whatever they are called) that could be fixed and hopefully some icon changes
Jack Scofield
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Maybe this is the wrong thread for my question, but I'll ask anyway. I had an iPhone for years before switching to Android a few months ago. I'm still really new to their ecosystem, so I'm wondering if they hold their own press event to discuss changes and improvements to the Android UI?
I was really impressed by iOS 7, and it would've neat to see if any of the updates make their way to Android.
I was really impressed by iOS 7, and it would've neat to see if any of the updates make their way to Android.
PotatoeMasher
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Do we know they started from scratch with a new team? Not actually doubting you (I'm guessing the UI rethink has been a project since day one of Ive's recent tenure in software), but Chan's been at Apple for a while and I suspect any project (no matter when it started) would have been in constant crunch mode for the last six months.
Totally agree. I think the isolation of the team has a lot to do with the rough edges as far as assets go—I keep thinking we're going to find out (through a well-placed leak to Gruber or something) that the iconography is still a WIP. The broader opinions within Apple are going to mean some changes and the developer community (certainly the types who win Apple Design Awards) will have their voices heard to friends high and low in the company this week at WWDC.
Totally agree. I think the isolation of the team has a lot to do with the rough edges as far as assets go—I keep thinking we're going to find out (through a well-placed leak to Gruber or something) that the iconography is still a WIP. The broader opinions within Apple are going to mean some changes and the developer community (certainly the types who win Apple Design Awards) will have their voices heard to friends high and low in the company this week at WWDC.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I laughed.
I'm only referring to the UI redesign. Perhaps the structural, z-axis changes (and the other feature additions) were planned before.
But re-doing the entire UI of an OS and its native apps within just a few months is crazy.
Well I finally got me an Air on order! I wanted some extra RAM so I have to wait a bit longer now though. Probably won't get here until next week. Ordered it day of and still hasn't shipped out. Oh well, I waited this long already.
Any hands on with them yet though? I know there's really no crazy upgrades I just want to see how Haswell is performing in the real world.
Any hands on with them yet though? I know there's really no crazy upgrades I just want to see how Haswell is performing in the real world.
Jack Scofield
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Ah, I didn't realize that was it. I guess I was expecting more emphasis on what the new version of Android might include. All I remember hearing about were app updates and improvements. But enough sidetracking, sorry for the derail.
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I think it's mostly because of the wallpaper being used. Plus that comparison shot has all the icons with any color in folders.
iOS 7 feels slow when switching apps, going to home screen, multitasking, and tapping the screen for pop-up controls (ie. video player). The delay is definitely noticeable and I hope this is just a beta thing.
Also I noticed another problem. When trying to rearrange apps in a folder you can move anything to the right pages. It thinks you want to move the app out of the folder instead.
But other than the bugs this new OS looks and feels GREAT!
I complained bout the looks and all too but the transitions from app to app and such feels awesome.
Also I noticed another problem. When trying to rearrange apps in a folder you can move anything to the right pages. It thinks you want to move the app out of the folder instead.
But other than the bugs this new OS looks and feels GREAT!
I complained bout the looks and all too but the transitions from app to app and such feels awesome.
Seriously. LOL at all the similar blue icons put on the same screen. Unless they really keep the Apple Store app on their front screen at all times...
It looks a lot better after I applied a darker wallpaper imo. Kind of mutes the intense pastel colours. Functionality wise it's no competition - leagues better than iOS6. Control center and swiping to go backwards have just become second nature now, and I love being able to swipe anywhere on the lock screen to unlock instead of being limited to a small bar at the bottom.
It looks to me like they had a couple of groups design icon sets, and Ive picked what he thought were the best out of those different sets and put them together.
Icons I dislike:
Game Center - Not a fan of the bubbles.
Camera (not that I use it, Camera+ ftw) - The camera lens icon was perfect. Could've just adapted it to match the style.
Contacts - Looks a bit too plain.
Photos - Too simple.
Newsstand - Also could've adapted the design to match the style.
Everything else looks good.
While changing established conventions for the sake of it is rarely ever user friendly, in this instance, they made it more consistent with how other applications act, such as Mail, Messages, Music, Contacts, etc, which have their search bar shown by pulling the list down.
PotatoeMasher
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Yeah, I agree. Just wasn't sure if you had confirmation on what happened with the team or something. I think Gruber said 7 months and that's pretty much crazy to think about, especially when you consider that means concept to implementation across the core OS, built-in apps and tools support. Collaboration indeed.
Yeah, Safari one is just odd to me.
I was going to write something about Game Center as well, but want to reserve judgement until I try it. My first impression is I'd rather have a list than moving bubbles, though. We'll see?
Absolutely better.
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See, this looks so much better. The proper wallpaper and third party apps mixed in mutes things nicely.
EDIT - Wait, there's a FaceTime icon now?
Anyone have a link to watch/download the full keynote? The official stream on Apple's site is not working for me (even in Safari) on my Mac. It works on my iPhone but I'd rather not watch a 2 hour keynote on that. I tried searching YouTube and even the usual torrent sites and I don't see it anywhere.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to third party apps updating their icons as well to go along with the flatter look better too.
And yep, Facetime is separated from the phone app this time to make it less confusing and easier to access. There's also audio only Facetime calls allowed that don't show any video.
Can't you download it through iTunes?
There's always been a FaceTime "app" on iPod touch and iPad; probably just added it to the iPhone so iPad/iPod users aren't confused about where it is.
I really like the new album art display on the lock screen too, and control center being accessible from there makes it much easier to control songs than before imo.
Music app is kinda broken on this beta though and refuses to show any of my songs in the "Artist" view except one artist for some reason or another, maybe because that's the only artist I have an album from the iTunes store loaded on for.
Music app is kinda broken on this beta though and refuses to show any of my songs in the "Artist" view except one artist for some reason or another, maybe because that's the only artist I have an album from the iTunes store loaded on for.
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I know there was an icon on the iTouch and iPad already, but I was surprised to see it added to the iPhone, since it was integrated into the phone app.
So can you still double-click the home button to access music controls from the lockscreen, or is that gone with Control Center now available?
Didn't think of that, downloading now. Thanks.
You can use both now, yeah. I find CC quicker though. This is what they'll look like for now
Yep or you can access it from control center by swiping up from arrow at the very bottom of the screen.
The photos app is a bit iffy at the moment. I'm glad they kept a tab with the old style of viewing because my "Moments" tab is a mess. There's odd photos here and there that I've edited after taking them and show up as entirely the wrong location or date from the original time they were taken.