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WWDC14 Thread of iOS 8 and Mac OSX 10.10
- Thread starter celebi23
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So I just got my macbook pro about two days ago. First ever Macbook Ive owned! Question, is it worth trying to get the Yosemite beta? Can I even get it right now?
I keep seeing all these screenshots and certain apps telling me its feature is only compatible with yosemite.
Yosemite Beta is great. We are up to a potential GM. I am not sure whether you can still get in or not direct from Apple. But the GM can be installed as long as you have it.
So I just got my macbook pro about two days ago. First ever Macbook Ive owned! Question, is it worth trying to get the Yosemite beta? Can I even get it right now?
I keep seeing all these screenshots and certain apps telling me its feature is only compatible with yosemite.
Just wait for the official release. Just a few weeks away.
So I just got my macbook pro about two days ago. First ever Macbook Ive owned! Question, is it worth trying to get the Yosemite beta? Can I even get it right now?
I keep seeing all these screenshots and certain apps telling me its feature is only compatible with yosemite.
Not worth the hassle at this point.
Not that Yosemite isn't good as it is, but the official release is mid-october, so you're literally just there. Entering the beta program and installing the beta only to update again next week (even though they'll probably make it available as an incremental update) is time-consuming for a one-week (two at best) difference.
Not worth the hassle at this point.
Not that Yosemite isn't good as it is, but the official release is mid-october, so you're literally just there. Entering the beta program and installing the beta only to update again next week (even though they'll probably make it available as an incremental update) is time-consuming for a one-week (two at best) difference.
If the current GM candidate remains the GM, then they'll be no update from beta testers. The GM will be the final version.
If the current GM candidate remains the GM, then they'll be no update from beta testers. The GM will be the final version.
Yeah but there's no guarantee that it will indeed be the GM...
In fact, it's been over a week since the candidate was released. If the current build were the GM, we'd probably have heard of it going gold by now. I'd bet we'll have another build go gold.
Yeah but there's no guarantee that it will indeed be the GM...
In fact, it's been over a week since the candidate was released. If the current build were the GM, we'd probably have heard of it going gold by now. I'd bet we'll have another build go gold.
Isn't Yosemite download only? What does it need to go gold? Yeah they'll sell overpriced usb loaders a while after it comes out
Alright, so most of you must have heard about the wifi loading problem with Safari on iOS 8, right? There is a lag when loading websites on Safari using iOS 8 on iDevices over wifi. Doesn't happen all the time for me but sometimes on my iPhone 6 and iPad 4.
Well, do you think that there is website loading lag with Safari on Yosemite PB 4?
Well, do you think that there is website loading lag with Safari on Yosemite PB 4?
Alright, so most of you must have heard about the wifi loading problem with Safari on iOS 8, right? There is a lag when loading websites on Safari using iOS 8 on iDevices over wifi. Doesn't happen all the time for me but sometimes on my iPhone 6 and iPad 4.
Well, do you think that there is website loading lag with Safari on Yosemite PB 4?
I haven't noticed it. But I didn't notice it on my iPad or iPhone either so
StopMakingSense
Member
Well, do you think that there is website loading lag with Safari on Yosemite PB 4?
Safari has been shitty for me speed-wise for sure, but has been progressively getting better with each beta.
I've had zero issues with iOS8 in that regard.
infiniteloop
Member
In fact, it's been over a week since the candidate was released. If the current build were the GM, we'd probably have heard of it going gold by now. I'd bet we'll have another build go gold.
Do you know what the G in GM stands for?
Do you know what the G in GM stands for?
ding ding ding
So I just got my macbook pro about two days ago. First ever Macbook Ive owned! Question, is it worth trying to get the Yosemite beta? Can I even get it right now?
I keep seeing all these screenshots and certain apps telling me its feature is only compatible with yosemite.
WTH?! What apps are these?
LyleLanley
Banned
WTH?! What apps are these?
Probably anything that has a widget for notification center or perhaps apps that are planning on including handoff support.
Is there an actual Instruction Manual for Yosemite that you can find in the Public Beta?
I realise that a lot of the new interesting features won't work on my iMac but I'm still interested in how you would initiate them.
Another question, how is everyone coping with or without Flash? Is Flash important for you?
I realise that a lot of the new interesting features won't work on my iMac but I'm still interested in how you would initiate them.
Another question, how is everyone coping with or without Flash? Is Flash important for you?
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I tried to dump Flash for a week a few months ago.Another question, how is everyone coping with or without Flash? Is Flash important for you?
No bueno. I need Flash. Too many websites are still stuck in the early 21st century and will stop working if Flash is missing.
YouTube however works great in Safari since it now forces HTML5 when possible. I rarely have Flash load for YouTube. Even on embedded videos on NeoGAF using YTM!. Though I need to keep Flash enabled for GAF for some reason.
Thankfully Safari will also disable Flash for elements on the page it deems unimportant to the content, like ads. So while I'll still get a static ad "splash" image, the Flash portion won't load unless I want it to.
I tried to dump Flash for a week a few months ago.
No bueno. I need Flash. Too many websites are still stuck in the early 21st century and will stop working if Flash is missing.
YouTube however works great in Safari since it now forces HTML5 when possible. I rarely have Flash load for YouTube. Even on embedded videos on NeoGAF using YTM!. Though I need to keep Flash enabled for GAF for some reason.
Thankfully Safari will also disable Flash for elements on the page it deems unimportant to the content, like ads. So while I'll still get a static ad "splash" image, the Flash portion won't load unless I want it to.
Just today I decided to get rid of Flash off my Mac. I haven't run into many issues but it's still very early to see if I can live without it. But so far, YouTube is great
and the porn tube streaming websites
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Don't try to visit any news blogs. And quite a few other video sites still need Flash.Just today I decided to get rid of Flash off my Mac. I haven't run into many issues but it's still very early to see if I can live without it. But so far, YouTube is greatseem okayand the porn tube streaming websites
The problem I had was I couldn't remove Flash from my computer. Only disable plugins in Safari. Because unlike Chrome, Safari and Firefox (Which I keep for porn and porn only as well as downloading videos from video sites) use the same Flash plugin in the Library Plugins folder. It's stupid. And you can't disable plugins for Safari separately so when I turned them off I also lost QuickTime which is surprisingly still needed for a few things so YouTube Me Again! broke completely. It was a mess. A complete mess.
But good luck!
Yeah of course but the keyword for the current build is candidate. Might as well look it up yourself.Do you know what the G in GM stands for?
Unless Apple has gone insane, (barring any critical flaw) the GM is the gold master. I wouldn't put too much on the word candidate. It is always a candidate until it is released.
If you don't hear anything, then there probably isn't a massive critical flaw and that is better evidence it will be final. Generally you want to sit on a release for a a good round of QA, and live with anything that comes up that isn't critical, you can always do patches or updates. This protects you from doing releases that do things like remove cell service from all your new hardware.
I really think the iOS8 and Yosemite issues are more of rushed deadlines than systemic QA failure, so I don't see them switching out a new GM a week before release. But 8.0.1 was a thing, so I don't know.
If you don't hear anything, then there probably isn't a massive critical flaw and that is better evidence it will be final. Generally you want to sit on a release for a a good round of QA, and live with anything that comes up that isn't critical, you can always do patches or updates. This protects you from doing releases that do things like remove cell service from all your new hardware.
I really think the iOS8 and Yosemite issues are more of rushed deadlines than systemic QA failure, so I don't see them switching out a new GM a week before release. But 8.0.1 was a thing, so I don't know.
Unless Apple has gone insane, (barring any critical flaw) the GM is the gold master. I wouldn't put too much on the word candidate. It is always a candidate until it is released.
If you don't hear anything, then there probably isn't a massive critical flaw and that is better evidence it will be final. Generally you want to sit on a release for a a good round of QA, and live with anything that comes up that isn't critical, you can always do patches or updates. This protects you from doing releases that do things like remove cell service from all your new hardware.
I really think the iOS8 and Yosemite issues are more of rushed deadlines than systemic QA failure, so I don't see them switching out a new GM a week before release. But 8.0.1 was a thing, so I don't know.
I'm on Public Beta 4. They could release a Day One update like iOS 7.0.1 for the 5S and 5C last year.
But like I mentioned earlier in the thread, Mac App Store still calls the recent install "Public Beta" and Feedback Assistant is still in PB4 (unless Apple are gonna just keep Feedback Assistant in OS X from now on). So I think there will be another update.
I'm on Public Beta 4. They could release a Day One update like iOS 7.0.1 for the 5S and 5C last year.
But like I mentioned earlier in the thread, Mac App Store still calls the recent install "Public Beta" and Feedback Assistant is still in PB4 (unless Apple are gonna just keep Feedback Assistant in OS X from now on). So I think there will be another update.
I don't think that's a bad idea, actually.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Doing a Spotlight Search still shows Developer files too so this can't be the final version.
infiniteloop
Member
Told you guys that there would be another Yosemite GM:
http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/07/apple-releases-second-golden-master-of-upcoming-os-x-10-10-yosemite/
http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/07/apple-releases-second-golden-master-of-upcoming-os-x-10-10-yosemite/
lolUnless Apple has gone insane, (barring any critical flaw) the GM is the gold master. I wouldn't put too much on the word candidate. It is always a candidate until it is released.
If you don't hear anything, then there probably isn't a massive critical flaw and that is better evidence it will be final. Generally you want to sit on a release for a a good round of QA, and live with anything that comes up that isn't critical, you can always do patches or updates. This protects you from doing releases that do things like remove cell service from all your new hardware.
I really think the iOS8 and Yosemite issues are more of rushed deadlines than systemic QA failure, so I don't see them switching out a new GM a week before release. But 8.0.1 was a thing, so I don't know.
Told you guys that there would be another Yosemite GM:
http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/07/apple-releases-second-golden-master-of-upcoming-os-x-10-10-yosemite/
When did you tell us that?
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Gonna install when I plug back in but I'm crossing my fingers for fixes of the few annoyances I still have and have had since the early PBs.
infiniteloop
Member
not showing up in my Software Update :/
not showing up in my Software Update :/
I have seen it in mine on two different computers.
Unless Apple has gone insane, (barring any critical flaw) the GM is the gold master. I wouldn't put too much on the word candidate. It is always a candidate until it is released.
With Apple, GM Candidate just means "no further changes will be made."
The software is in its final state for release, but there might be bugs to work out before release.
That's why GM Candidate 2 was so small.
Not sure if I'll jump over to Public Beta 5. I only just did PB 4 last week and the whole process takes me about 3 to 4 hours, including the 5.7GB download.
Anybody noticed any significant changes so far?
The update from GM C1 to GM C2 was only about 100 MB, so I imagine PB4 to PB5 would be similar.
No changes, it's set in stone at this point. Just bug fixes.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a final PB6 next week just in time for the final release to the public two days later.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a final PB6 next week just in time for the final release to the public two days later.
Yup. That will clear up all the Beta naming conventions and delete the developer files. To make it more "consumer" friendly. And remove Feedback Assistant.
Hopefully if they do do this clean up update, to turn it into Final, it'll just be a delta update for us Public Beta enrollers, rather than having to re-download a brand new Yosemite - especially on consumer launch day.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
The spotlight text on music files is still black in dark mode, making it unreadable.
I hope they're still fixing stuff and there is another update on the way.
Minor one but in dark mode all dropdown menus are dark but the right-click menu is still light, spoiling the effect somewhat. That's another easy fix I expected to see by now but it's still here...
I hope they're still fixing stuff and there is another update on the way.
Minor one but in dark mode all dropdown menus are dark but the right-click menu is still light, spoiling the effect somewhat. That's another easy fix I expected to see by now but it's still here...
The spotlight text on music files is still black in dark mode, making it unreadable.
I hope they're still fixing stuff and there is another update on the way.
Minor one but in dark mode all dropdown menus are dark but the right-click menu is still light, spoiling the effect somewhat. That's another easy fix I expected to see by now but it's still here...
Feedback Assistant. And start a thread on Apple Community Forums.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
For the sake of everyone's install integrity, I hope Apple forces all Public Beta users to do a clean install.Hopefully if they do do this clean up update, to turn it into Final, it'll just be a delta update for us Public Beta enrollers, rather than having to re-download a brand new Yosemite - especially on consumer launch day.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
If they're smart they'll keep Feedback Assistant in the OS. They should put one in iOS too. Today's software is constantly being updated and a lot of the time in beta. So the more feedback the better. Especially if they keep in touch when possible to let people know a bug they discovered has been fixed for the next version.
infiniteloop
Member
Yosemite GM3 is out, i think my software update is fucked as it never shows anything :/
Yosemite GM3 is out, i think my software update is fucked as it never shows anything :/
Two days later? That was completely unexpected.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Good. They're going after as many bugs as they can get before next Thursday. If only iOS could have this much of an update schedule.
So do any of you running Yosemite Developer Preview or Public Beta have any problems with your album art orcover art when transferring your media to your iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch?
My cover art for my TV Programs and Movies don't transfer over - unless the video was specifically purchased from iTunes. Music art is fine though.
My cover art for my TV Programs and Movies don't transfer over - unless the video was specifically purchased from iTunes. Music art is fine though.
Junior Mint
Member
Anyone thinking of doing a clean install of Yosemite or are you guys gonna upgrade from Mavericks?
I'll prolly update. I do clean installs every two versions or so.Anyone thinking of doing a clean install of Yosemite or are you guys gonna upgrade from Mavericks?