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WWE Network |OT| $9.99 PPVs, that's gonna put some butts in the seats

pa22word

Member
Man, watching insurrection 2002, it's despicable how poorly used booker t was. Could have been one of the best wwe stars ever, but they burried him in hc championship matches and such because he went to wcw first. Truly disgusting.
 
Man, watching insurrection 2002, it's despicable how poorly used booker t was. Could have been one of the best wwe stars ever, but they burried him in hc championship matches and such because he went to wcw first. Truly disgusting.
He became champion and had a really good run and he's still employed there even after bailing for TNA. I think he did ok. That only seems bad if you somehow lack the context of the next 12 years.
 
Man, watching insurrection 2002, it's despicable how poorly used booker t was. Could have been one of the best wwe stars ever, but they burried him in hc championship matches and such because he went to wcw first. Truly disgusting.

Sting said in a TNA documentary about him that the way WWE treated Booker T when he first showed up was the main reason he never came over after WCW died.
 

Edgeward

Member
i watched that Taboo Tuesday Matt Hardy/Rey vs. Snitsky/Chris Masters match that stro kept saying was good and huh, it was actually pretty good! Crowd was crazy hot for what would normally be a Raw tag match

One of the most surprising "wtf, why is this so good?" matches I've seen of all the wrasslin I've watched over the past 2-3 years. Especially when you consider how bad Snitsky was and how green Masters was.

Alright wtf, this match was really good. Blows my mind considering the mishmash of people involved plus the whole double ref gimmick. Flies in the face of expectations
 

Edgeward

Member
Masterlock should have been better protected

Survivor Series Diesel vs Bret Hart

Wonderful storytelling, lot of thought and effort went into telling a match from beginning to end. Great end to set-up the aftermath too.
 
Someone go and watch IYH:Breakdown

Is it as bad as I remember it being other then the Triple threat match? My dad got us seats at the last minuite and we are just behind the entrance but high enough that we can see the ring
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, same with ECW footage. But to use home releases on their own footage is kind of weird. I'm pretty sure ECW PPVs were edited for home video release, which is probably what is used for Network stuff.

I noticed that Money in the Bank 2011 isn't the live version either. Not that it's a big deal, but the version on the Network fades out early on a close up of Vince in the ring with Punk holding the belt high up in the stands. In the live version, things continued just a little longer and you got to see Punk actually head out through the concourse on his way out of the building.
 
Slamboree '95 -

Nastys-Heat starts off with a great Heat promo talking about delivering whoopings. WE'RE THE BOYS, WE'RE THE NASTY BOYS. Fun theme. Thank God, no Knobbs - this is actually a pretty fun little match. Knobbs as a hot tag-y works for me. Knobbs's catch of Sherri off the top was fine, THEN HE JUST THREW HER ONTO STEVIE OVER THE TOP ROPE. She had a rough landing against the railing and damn, this was vile. Nastys win with the powerslam>elbow. Punk's elbow MIGHT've been better than Sags'. EARL ROBERT OF EATON. I demand an on demand section of just wacky WCW skits with continuity. If Vince is really pissed at Mick, throw the Lost in Cleveland stuff in there. After years of TNA skits, they're honestly not all that bad after watching them on Worldwide via CoD. Sullivan's promo on the Butcher is pretty solid. Gene is much better though describing the Butcher "Look at what you did to this man, HE'S NOW TOTALLY USELESS!" The Man With No Name is the Man With a Bad Theme and The Man With an Orange Tan. Sullivan's theme has sirens! More themes need sirens - Ryback's was so much better with a siren. Stuff. Sleeper is broken up with something generously resembling a jawjacker. Nice overhand slaps to the chest from No Name. Stinger splash misses, leading to the tree of woe knee strike to the belly welly and the double stomp for the win.

Hogan's cutting a promo about the MACHOMONSTERMANIACS BROTHER. Fuck Hogan. Poor Arn gets ANGELO POFFO as his foil for this whole deal. Angelo went from looking like a 50 year old in shape in Memphis to about 70 in '95. Now that's fair because he was, but damn did this make the heels seem weak. Nice little promo from Angelo though. The legends matches having a black and white filter absolutely sucks. This was never done in '93 and '94, and just makes everyone seem old. Wahoo hailing from "the University of Oklahoma" in the AWA was hilarious then, and even funnier many years later here. Heenan and Solie work shockingly well together, and you'd think that combo wouldn't work out well because they're so different, but it's great. Each one is still fantastic at their own style. Murdoch's body looks so much older here than in '93. Wahoo is aided by always looking 1,000. Hard to believe Murdoch was only alive for a year after this. Love the 3 Stooges selling of the chop from Murdoch. Murdoch doing a slow fall onto his ass to sell another one ruled. Murdoch was such a music between the notes kinda guy. He wasn't all about moves, but getting the most out of everything he did. So he may not make for a great video game character, but he's damned fun to watch. Murdoch's mouth is busted up. CALF BRANDING by Murdoch! Murdoch's elbows still look great. Wahoo wins with a chop. Wahoo did what he could here, while Murdoch ruled!

Passionate promo from Big Bubba Rogers - this suit look worked great for him. They should've just gone with this when he came over to WCW. MUTA'S OUTFIT IS AMAZING! And he's facing Orndorff...I sense a clash in styles. MUTA GETS A LIVE DRUM INTRO! Sadly no swank '89 theme for him here. And this is an IWGP Title match for God knows what reason. Muta's black and red paint looks great. Bischoff comes off really knowledgeable talking about Japan, jet lack, and the like. Holds. Holds. More holds. Thankfully, he finally hits the handspring elbow. Backbreaker moonsault combo gets the clean win. Muta just gets the generic WCW Japanese theme song, which is pretty solid, but nowhere near as cool as his '89 one. Great Arn-Wright video package. Boy was it a mistake to not give Wright the belt here. Arn just lost it a month later to the fucking Renegade, and Wright had no momentum for ages after this. Nice promo from Arn with Flair and Vader. Flair's in super-high pants and is apparently going to work in street clothes. I love Flair basically saying that Hogan and his buddies have ruined WCW by bringing WWF bullshit into it. Vader naming his biceps Itsy and Bitsy THE PYTHON EATERS is great. Terry Funk cuts a promo about not being sure if he's a legend...wow. Terry looks shockingly similar now to how he did here.

THE ALEX WRIGHT DANCE. Good lord, I thought that was just the coolest thing then. At least I was only 10 or so. Arn Anderson is THE MAN. He exudes tough working guy who will work hard and kick whatever ass needs to be kicked to accomplish a goal. I love the side headlock>rollup 2 count stuff. That's a really simple thing that should be brought back. Northern lights doesn't get a count because he gets up. Missile dropkick gets 2. Nice bodyshot by Arn in the corner. Great fakeout for the left hook leading to the snap DDT to a huge pop and a win. Arn's character was such that you may not like him, but you at least had to respect him. This network is so great for going on an Arn marathon. According to Heenan, THE FACE TEAM WAS FOUND BY SECURITY TRYING TO FLEE THE BUILDING VIA THEIR DRESSING ROOM WINDOW. Glorious.

Hawk-Meng is the SPECIAL SURPRISE BONUS MATCH! Hawk in his Hell Raisers gear is out. That gear ruled - easily the best overall look for the Road Warriors. THIS MATCH WOULD BE A MAIN EVENT IN ANY ARENA ON THE EARTH and it's here on WCW PPV as a bonus match. Yeah wow no way, Eric. "WCW and New Japan set the standard for pro wrestling" with the North Korea shows - well hell, might as well go big with that and put over what you can possibly take credit for. They clubber, they don't sell, and Hawk takes a helluva bump off a shoulder charge in the corner. Goes sailing right to the floor - it's a thing of beauty. YAY MORE CLUBBERING! Double countout. Whatever. Fun match.

Hall of fame time. Solie told a nice story about Wahoo getting seriously injured and put over him being an AWA and NWA tag champ. Wahoo's out in a nice shirt, tie, and blazer...and jeans. Pretty nothing speech from Wahoo though. Terry's next. Hard to believe he was already 51 here and is still working. Funk being in a bunch of Stallone movies is put over. HI MOM! Terry rules. He puts over his wife, daughters, and a 30 year career at that point. Damn, he's been working for nearly 50 fucking years. Solie somewhat sarcastically puts over Poffo for going into the HOF for doing situps. Lanny gets a mention, and he looks EXACTLY like his dad did in one of the historic photos. Terrible promo by Angelo about the main event. Solie's comparison of Inoki as being like a diamond - no matter what side you examine, his life reflects brilliance, was great. Ali-Inoki was put over as putting Ali in the hospital for 2 days. Collision in Korea clips are shown - including the card ceremony. Terrible echo for Solie here. Inoki is such a fascinating character, there's definitely no one else like him.

Solie breaks into tears talking about Big John Studd. His feud with Andre is put over, as is his focus on living in northern VA for 18 years. I was amazed to learn that when he died, he was only about half an hour away from me. Gordon's reading of a poem spoken at his service was fantastic. His son Robert is maybe 12-13 and is talking about his deceased father on global PPV and doing a damned fine job of it. Solie tells a story about Dusty digging ditches at 8 before being told then that there could be an American dream. Dusty's charisma is put over, as was the team with Dick Murdoch. A college course on the American dream was crafted due to Dusty. Dusty gets a MASSIVE POP with his arrival. CODY'S OUT THERE. He gives Cody the plaque and his daughter Teal the flowers. Puts over Dakota, Eddie Graham, his dad, and the fans. Dusty's scar tissue is honestly distracting even in '95. Dusty's surprise induction of Solie is amazing. Gene came out as a seeming fakeout. Gordon truly was amazing. He was a bit like Joe Friday in that he was so serious, but you took the man seriously when he said something. Gordon is in tears with this. Gordon's speech wasn't exactly smooth, but it was genuine and if there's one thing WCW did better than WWE does now is making the hall of fame seem genuine. It didn't have the pomp and circumstance, but dammit, it felt genuine and heartfelt.

Sting's an 11 out of 10 on the Roidy Magoo scale for this promo. LOLing at Gene saying IT'S TIME FOR TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION! Big Bubba's theme rules. Bubba brings out the world's oldest and shittiest-looking table to bonk Sting into. Bubba taps to the scorpion deathlock. "A Man Called Sting" isn't able to be used, so instead of using the vastly-superior "Turbo Charged", they go with generic shit. BOO! Main event time. WOO FLAIR! Flair's in purple, which helps him match Vader's purple trim. Fairly big pyro display for Flair. Vader looks like such a badass. This network is so worth it just to watch Vader demolish dudes whenever you want. I should really check out SuperBrawl V at some point just to see how Hogan-Vader actually turned out. The Mega Powered-Monster Maniacs get an even bigger pyro display. The Giant is shown briefly. HE'S THE KING OF HULKMANIA, HE IS HULK HOGAN! Perfectly fine little tag match here. Hogan and Vader works great in a tag match because Vader can do some stuff to him briefly, then get Flair in there to eat some offense. Vader's relying on way too many holds against Hogan - it's good for diversity's sake, but bad for the whole point of this character being to crush people. Vader bomb misses. Vader and Savage have some fine brawling outside - that'd be a fun singles match. Anderson's in...and that's not a DQ because why not. Big legdrop gets the win. Helluva return for Flair here. Great beating on Savage and Poffo. Poffo took a solid bump for the punches. Savage looks like he's ready to just wreck fuckers after this. As far as Hogan-era shows go, this was a pretty decent one. It had just enough of that WCW feel to not feel like WWF-lite even with that permeating into some aspects of the show.









CODY!
 

Rapstah

Member
Was The Rock drunk for his promo at Backlash 2003 or something? He does everything he usually does only it doesn't really work at all for some reason.
 

Young Magus

Junior Member
I have HideMyAss and I'm trying to get this to work with my Android tablet. Every time I try to connect, I get a message "Unable to reliably verify your location". Can anyone help with this?
 

Hasney

Member
God I love this Steve Austin Beyond the Ring thing already. He really doesn't BS about anything, love how he says that he was slow to take to it and he sucked.
 

Striker

Member
Man, watching insurrection 2002, it's despicable how poorly used booker t was. Could have been one of the best wwe stars ever, but they burried him in hc championship matches and such because he went to wcw first. Truly disgusting.
The Triple H program heading into Wrestlemania XIX made Book an underdog and a huge opportunity to create a new star. Instead, Game's gonna Game.
 

paile

Banned
Booker T did alright in WWE. It was DDP and the way he was treated that pissed me off. There was a talented wrestler that was wasted and thrown to the scrap heap.
 

strobogo

Banned
The Triple H program heading into Wrestlemania XIX made Book an underdog and a huge opportunity to create a new star. Instead, Game's gonna Game.

The plan was for Booker to go over. Then they signed Goldberg and realized that HHH would be dropping the title to him sometime, so instead of giving Book a month long reign, they went with that horrible finish. Which is really a shame because up until the finish, it was a great match. But that finish is inexcusable. No need for such a huge gap of time to make the pin after the pedigree.


Booker T did alright in WWE. It was DDP and the way he was treated that pissed me off. There was a talented wrestler that was wasted and thrown to the scrap heap.

I can definitely see why Vince didn't do much with DDP, because he definitely wasn't the kind of wrestler that Vince ever liked, but it was exceptionally shitty that DDP let his contract get bought out for 50 cents on the dollar so he could be a part of the Invasion and got put in such a shitty angle.
 

Hasney

Member
I can definitely see why Vince didn't do much with DDP, because he definitely wasn't the kind of wrestler that Vince ever liked, but it was exceptionally shitty that DDP let his contract get bought out for 50 cents on the dollar so he could be a part of the Invasion and got put in such a shitty angle.

Yeah, probably would have been best if he just sat out his contract and then came in. Coming in with so many guys made him get a bit lost in the shuffle in spite of him getting the biggest initial angle and only Booker really survived that.
 
SummerSlam 99 with Al Snow vs. Big Boss Man for the Hardcore Championship. I chuckled a few times when they went into the bar across the street and Snow was hitting on the ladies and shaking peoples hands.
 

PaulLFC

Member
I really hope them removing Raw Episode 1 is just a glitch, and not a sign that they'll randomly remove shows as they add more. I don't like having a time limit to watch things, I want to watch entire years including PPVs when the content is eventually up.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Booker T did alright in WWE. It was DDP and the way he was treated that pissed me off. There was a talented wrestler that was wasted and thrown to the scrap heap.

DDP was misused, Scott Steiner was misused, Goldberg was misused...when you look at the huge list of ECW/WCW wrestlers misused by WWE it's hard not to think Vince just had a personal vendetta.
 

strobogo

Banned
Goldberg wasn't misused. He was booked pretty much exactly the same as he was in WCW. DDP and Booker were misused. Booker eventually over came it, but DDP only had a few years left in him even without the career ending injury. He was never going to be a main event guy in WWE, but he definitely deserved better than European Championship.


Scott Steiner is iffy. He should have been a bad ass main event heel or face, but he wasn't in good cardio shape when he came in and was well past his peak anyway. He was in pretty rough shape even at the end of WCW. I don't think he was capable of a lot more than what he was in that environment.
 

Ripclawe

Banned
Goldberg wasn't misused. He was booked pretty much exactly the same as he was in WCW. DDP and Booker were misused. Booker eventually over came it, but DDP only had a few years left in him even without the career ending injury. He was never going to be a main event guy in WWE, but he definitely deserved better than European Championship.


Scott Steiner is iffy. He should have been a bad ass main event heel or face, but he wasn't in good cardio shape when he came in and was well past his peak anyway. He was in pretty rough shape even at the end of WCW. I don't think he was capable of a lot more than what he was in that environment.

true, but even Steiner said booking him against Triple H in a match going 20 mins (forgot the PPV) was just them fucking with him. That period they just refused to do business and just settle scores
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Goldberg wasn't misused. He was booked pretty much exactly the same as he was in WCW. DDP and Booker were misused. Booker eventually over came it, but DDP only had a few years left in him even without the career ending injury. He was never going to be a main event guy in WWE, but he definitely deserved better than European Championship.


Scott Steiner is iffy. He should have been a bad ass main event heel or face, but he wasn't in good cardio shape when he came in and was well past his peak anyway. He was in pretty rough shape even at the end of WCW. I don't think he was capable of a lot more than what he was in that environment.

I disagree about Goldberg. He was the biggest star in WCW for years. He came into WWF as a face and should have stayed there. Turning him heel was ludicrous. Certain guys (Austin/Goldberg/Sting) just don't work as heels,
 
i want some old Shotgun Saturday Night on the network. Loved how the early episodes were actually filmed in NYC locations like Penn Station. Fucking lol @ HHH getting a tombstone on the esculator and the Flying Nuns.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
i want some old Shotgun Saturday Night on the network. Loved how the early episodes were actually filmed in NYC locations like Penn Station. Fucking lol @ HHH getting a tombstone on the esculator and the Flying Nuns.

Yep, never forgot that shit. Fucking ridiculous but fun. It's weird.
 

markatisu

Member
Booker T did alright in WWE. It was DDP and the way he was treated that pissed me off. There was a talented wrestler that was wasted and thrown to the scrap heap.

I think DDP is having the last laugh though with his insanely successful DDP Yoga and being responsible for keeping quite a few wrestlers off deaths door
 

PaulLFC

Member
So it seems episode 1 of Raw is still available on PC (search for Raw Episode 1 and go to page 3, it's the last result)

Weird that some shows that were properly categorised to show up in navigation now aren't, and some never were to begin with.
 

Carnby

Member
i want some old Shotgun Saturday Night on the network. Loved how the early episodes were actually filmed in NYC locations like Penn Station. Fucking lol @ HHH getting a tombstone on the esculator and the Flying Nuns.

Marlena was topless on the first episode. nuff said.
 

Hasney

Member
New Jack hasn't been edited out of the ECW PPVs for sure and some music plays all the way through while he's out, so not sure what that was about... Unless he's edited out of ECW TV?
 
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