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strobogo

Banned
I don't use anything else on the PC version but the search tool. I'm mostly interested in the content from the 80s and early-to-mid 90s and I've found better luck just typing in a wrestler's name.

I really wish there was a way to search by "year" or specific date and just click a starting point and watch EVERY SINGLE THING that took place in a linear way from that point on. A lot of what makes wrestling entertainment great is the drama, but hopping from one thing to another to another without much context tends to dull things a bit.

It'd be incredible if people could put together playlists and share/collaborate with others on them a la spotify.

All in due time, I think.


You can search by year in any given category. So looking at WWE PPVs and clicking 1995 will show all the shitty New Generation PPVs in chronological order. I believe they default at newest to oldest.
 
Watching WCCW live on the Network.


... God damn, Michael Hayes is terrible. He does probably the worst elbow drop I've ever seen.

I guess there's a reason that they never show him wrestling in any of the videos that mention him.
 

Hasney

Member
Talking about tombstones and they had Justin Credible on talking about some finishers and no shout out for That's Incredible. Poor guy.
 

BFIB

Member
Watching WCCW live on the Network.


... God damn, Michael Hayes is terrible. He does probably the worst elbow drop I've ever seen.

I guess there's a reason that they never show him wrestling in any of the videos that mention him.

He just doesn't give a fuck unless its something he really cares about, or its in a territory where he's a top guy.
 

Into

Member
Watched Slamboree 98

Its that PPV where Bischoff challenged Vince McMahon to a fight, and it was all suppose to go down in this PPV

What was Bischoff thinking? He is a heel and a part of the nWo, yet WCW fans obviously are not going to cheer for Vince, so who do they cheer for?

Nobody. That is the answer and that is what they did, plain no reaction.

But the golden thing here, is how stressed and messed up Eric looks, this was the time ratings started to go WWF's ways and this whole shit "feud" was a attempt to spike controversy, yet failed. WCW looked second rate, even the commentators were admitting that Vince "is not coming"

So wtf?
 
Watched some of that 1999 Raw show that was streaming on the Network. It was a post Backlash Raw.

Cliffs
-Forgot that the Brood were in the Ministry

-Seeing Kane being a legit monster again is always a treat. Funny how easily he destroys Edge back than only to get his ass beat by Edge multiple times years later

-At one point HHH & The Rock were in the same faction

-Those packed Attitude era areas. Just oozed with energy and atmosphere.
 
The way they try to frame their programming as very fake with people in power booking themselves to win is the most bizarre and hateful thing anyone's ever done to wrestling. Like if you're afraid of Jeff Jarrett using his stroke to make himself win, why even have a fucking show? Just put up the plain text "Jeff Jarrett is a winner" for an hour and go home.

The triple threat match with Kevin Nash vs. Goldberg vs. Scott Steiner at New Blood Rising is seriously the thing that ended WCW for a lot of people. When Goldberg "shoots" and walks out with Russo getting in his face, telling him to go back and "do what he was supposed to do" is bonkers. Then the announcers rip on Goldberg the whole match for not letting Nash powerbomb him and "breaking the script," yet they praise Steiner, a heel, the entire match for "improvising with Nash". They were still trying to consolidate this in a way that still sounded like kayfabe, but failed miserably, essentially saying, "Yeah, this is all one big fake thing with a script". It's one of the most insane things I've ever seen. All the while, they are throwing out all these insider terms that casual fans have no idea about.

It was a very meta attempt of booking by Russo, but the only people who got it were the Internet crowd, which was still a very small segment of people in the year 2000.
 

strobogo

Banned
Watching WCCW live on the Network.


... God damn, Michael Hayes is terrible. He does probably the worst elbow drop I've ever seen.

I guess there's a reason that they never show him wrestling in any of the videos that mention him.

FUCK. The only thing worse than a Michael Hayes tag match is a Michael Hayes singles match. PS looks like a straight up date rapist. I have no doubt he slipped thousands of mickies in the 80s. He probably still does it. He probably ruffies himself on a weekly basis. Greasy, furry fuck head. Dude just looks like a full on scum bag who would fuck your mom and steal your couch on the same night. Or ask his nephew if he can borrow some money and never pay it back. Or the kind of guy who has a lot of money, but still always asks to bum a beer or smoke. The kind of guy who asks you to drive him to the airport and doesn't give you gas money. The kind of guy who uses your razor on his balls and puts it back. The kind of guy who would put your remote inside of a girl. The kind of guy who purposely clogs your toilet. The kind of guy who would ash on your carpet. The kind of guy who would steal your wallet and go with you to beat up a guy he said actually stole it. Just a total twat on every level. They have an unimaginably boring match which Hayes wins with a DDT.

FUCK FUCK FUCK. Michael Hayes is the kind of guy who would say his sister has great tits. The kind of guy who would take the batteries out of your remotes and not tell you. The kind of guy who trims his beard in your sink and doesn't clean up. The kind of guy who uses your coffee mug as a dip cup. The kind of guy who would piss on your floor. The kind of guy who would steal pain meds from his grandparents. The kind of guy who borrows your car and wrecks it and doesn't tell you. The kind of guy who rubs cum on your dog. The kind of guy who jerks off in a bush. The kind of guy who says "gash" and "wound". The kind of dude that makes fun of Mexicans who don't speak English. In Mexico. The kind of guy who would borrow your shorts and go commando. The kind of guy who tells you he can change your tire, makes you wait an hour and and then tells you the rim was damaged and he couldn't do it. The kind of guy who still uses the term "Japs". The kind of guy who still uses the term "Chinaman". The kind of guy who offers booze to recovering alcoholics and calls them pussies if they don't drink. The kind of guy who would give coke to an 8 year old. The kind of guy who would make a big scene at Terry Gordy's funeral because he was jealous. The kind of guy who has been so racist for so long that he thinks he has legitimate n word privileges. The kind of guy who still parties with high schoolers. The kind of guy who borrows your phone to call sex lines. The kind of guy who would order porn on your credit card. The kind of guy who would eat all your god damn frosted mini wheats. The kind of guy who steals the DDT, does it shitty, and wins the match with outside interference from Terry Gordy after saying he'd do it on his own. New champion. BULLSHIT.
Again, Iron Man is left in for LOD. They come in riding bitch on some bikes. Obviously, the heels win the coin toss. Eaton and Jimmy Jam start the match. Michael Hayes is the kind of guy would get married just so he could cheat on his wife. The kind of guy who would drink your last Wild Cherry Pepsi and not tell you. The kind of guy who would house sit and leave your house unlocked all weekend. The kind of guy who would use a story about Black History Month as an excuse to talk about this one time he threw fried chicken at an elderly black woman in the front row. The kind of guy who would use your car cigarette lighter to charge his car battery. The kind of guy who would take the A key off your keyboard because his was broken. The kind of guy who would spend hours hacking shit up while you're trying to watch a movie. The kind of guy who talks on the phone at a play. The kind of guy who doesn't wipe his ass. The kind of guy who wears purple suits because he thinks he's black, even though he's racist. The kind of guy who eats coworker's lunches from the refrigerator. The kind of guy who snitches on people for things he does. The kind of guy who tries to fuck someone at their mom's funeral. The kind of guy would talk about the tits of your dead mom in the coffin. Standard War games match. The faces win.



I share your opinions on Michael Hayes.
 

blurrygil

Member
... God damn, Michael Hayes is terrible. He does probably the worst elbow drop I've ever seen.

I guess there's a reason that they never show him wrestling in any of the videos that mention him.

This is why he was such a great tag team-level heel to me. He was simply all talk and had nothing to back it up. His overall form is hot garbage. But him on the mic got me to mark out and heat up at him.

Watched Slamboree 98

Its that PPV where Bischoff challenged Vince McMahon to a fight, and it was all suppose to go down in this PPV

What was Bischoff thinking? He is a heel and a part of the nWo, yet WCW fans obviously are not going to cheer for Vince, so who do they cheer for?

Nobody. That is the answer and that is what they did, plain no reaction.

But the golden thing here, is how stressed and messed up Eric looks, this was the time ratings started to go WWF's ways and this whole shit "feud" was a attempt to spike controversy, yet failed. WCW looked second rate, even the commentators were admitting that Vince "is not coming"

So wtf?

This was a complete facepalm. I tuned completely out of WCW close to this point, already. :-/

- Those packed Attitude era areas. Just oozed with energy and atmosphere.

Trying to snatch up that "indy" flavor from ECW and others. But those were good times, indeed.
 
The triple threat match with Kevin Nash vs. Goldberg vs. Scott Steiner at New Blood Rising is seriously the thing that ended WCW for a lot of people. When Goldberg "shoots" and walks out with Russo getting in his face, telling him to go back and "do what he was supposed to do" is bonkers. Then the announcers rip on Goldberg the whole match for not letting Nash powerbomb him and "breaking the script," yet they praise Steiner, a heel, the entire match for "improvising with Nash". They were still trying to consolidate this in a way that still sounded like kayfabe, but failed miserably, essentially saying, "Yeah, this is all one big fake thing with a script". It's one of the most insane things I've ever seen. All the while, they are throwing out all these insider terms that casual fans have no idea about.

It was a very meta attempt of booking by Russo, but the only people who got it were the Internet crowd, which was still a very small segment of people in the year 2000.
Yes! That was the height of this unreal idea. I can't believe they thought this was compelling TV. And you can see how it would have worked in a less cynical way, if they did something like Goldberg just leaving the arena because he hates his boss or something as bringing real drama into kayfabe, but instead they devalued their entire product and just kept screaming "this is fake" to us.

The match after that is Booker T vs Jarrett, I think, and the announcers are like "has Jarrett booked himself to win again?" What the fuck?
 

Malajax

Member
Yeah, I'm loving this service. Just tuned in randomly to the live feed. Caught the last bit of a video package featuring pre JBL Bradshaw that was really cool to watch. Immediately following, there was a promo segment with the two greats, Macho Man Randy Savage and Paul Bearer. It was fantastic.

More of this please, WWE. There needs to be an hour show dedicated to the best promos. Need more Macho Man in my life.
 

Shiv47

Member
Having Michael Hayes on the Legends show is the worst thing about those, with him sporting that creepy pencil thin goatee. Also, the "Badstreet USA" music video was a low point of WCCW shows that they shoehorned it into. He was pure shit.
 

strobogo

Banned
This thread should be turned into FUCK MICHAEL HAYES for a page or two to make Sunny sad about like Michael Hayes. Some other Michael Hayes stories: Got suspended for believing he had n-word privileges and telling Mark Henry that he was "more of a nigger" than Mark was. This was after he had been reprimanded for using slurs in the past because he feels it is okay since he doesn't "mean any harm" by them. And that was done on a WM weekend.

Has currently been suspended since last year for offering Rosa Mendez a drink literally days after she finished an alcohol rehab program.
 
You can catch the Raw he debuted as Friar Ferguson. I have no clue how they thought that was going to get over but they seemed to have dropped it after two episodes.

Seen it. Such a strange gimmick. I like Bugger much better. Ill never forget him picking his nose while on the toilet.

On the subject of Michael Hayes, he seemed like such a dick wad in a video that involved the guy that does Stone Cold ET and all those drive through videos. He goes to a signing dressed as Flair and greets Hayes, and Hayes is acting like a complete dick.

He does the same thing to Warrior and Warrior got a kick out of it
 

strobogo

Banned
This thread should be turned into FUCK MICHAEL HAYES for a page or two to make Sunny sad about like Michael Hayes./QUOTE]

Michael Hayes and the Nasty Boys should be a tag team.

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This thread should be turned into FUCK MICHAEL HAYES for a page or two to make Sunny sad about like Michael Hayes. Some other Michael Hayes stories: Got suspended for believing he had n-word privileges and telling Mark Henry that he was "more of a nigger" than Mark was. This was after he had been reprimanded for using slurs in the past because he feels it is okay since he doesn't "mean any harm" by them. And that was done on a WM weekend.

Has currently been suspended since last year for offering Rosa Mendez a drink literally days after she finished an alcohol rehab program.
Wow I forgot about that Mark Henry thing. What good has this guy ever done?
 
Here is a PPV that I am going to catch hopefully tonight. Summerslam 91. That last time we would see the end of prime Warrior. This was apparently the match where he got fired when he came back through that curtain.

When Warrior came back at WM 8, he was mad skinny and had weird attire. He wasn't the same.

Also isn't this the first time Ric Flair has shown up in the WWF?
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
This thread should be turned into FUCK MICHAEL HAYES for a page or two to make Sunny sad about like Michael Hayes. Some other Michael Hayes stories: Got suspended for believing he had n-word privileges and telling Mark Henry that he was "more of a nigger" than Mark was. This was after he had been reprimanded for using slurs in the past because he feels it is okay since he doesn't "mean any harm" by them. And that was done on a WM weekend.

Has currently been suspended since last year for offering Rosa Mendez a drink literally days after she finished an alcohol rehab program.

I completely forgot about the Mark Henry shit. Fuck Hayes.
 

strobogo

Banned
Wow I forgot about that Mark Henry thing. What good has this guy ever done?

Idk. He's been in control of Smackdown for a long time and Smackdown has been a non-factor for most of the last 10 years. I have to think they only reason he hasn't been fired is because he's on Smackdown. The shit he does wouldn't fly at Raw. Maybe Vince feels some kind of loyalty for him for whatever he did during the Attitude Era.
 

BFIB

Member
Idk. He's been in control of Smackdown for a long time and Smackdown has been a non-factor for most of the last 10 years. I have to think they only reason he hasn't been fired is because he's on Smackdown. The shit he does wouldn't fly at Raw. Maybe Vince feels some kind of loyalty for him for whatever he did during the Attitude Era.

Hayes is like that guy in high school that constantly "hung out" with the popular kids. And by "hung out" I mean constantly stood in the vicinity of them, but never was really noticed, but thought his shit didn't stink because he was "one of the cool kids."

Regarding Legends, I never really noticed how much he tries to hijack the conversations, but now upon watching another one, you guys are exactly right. He truly thinks he is the end all be all for anyone who has had success.
 

strobogo

Banned
Hayes is like that guy in high school that constantly "hung out" with the popular kids. And by "hung out" I mean constantly stood in the vicinity of them, but never was really noticed, but thought his shit didn't stink because he was "one of the cool kids."

Regarding Legends, I never really noticed how much he tries to hijack the conversations, but now upon watching another one, you guys are exactly right. He truly thinks he is the end all be all for anyone who has had success.

Not only does he hijack conversations, but he cuts people off constantly to talk himself up. And bitches about the Freebirds not being in the HOF just about every show. He's more of a mark for himself than Bret.
 

BFIB

Member
Interesting *strokes goatee* I'll look into that.

Unblock-Us is fantastic. I'm using it for my MLB subscription.

Just a word of note however, that it will not work on tablets, and phones due to location services being used for the WWE app.

However, if you have a Roku/AppleTV/home console, your good to go!
 

Shiv47

Member
Another Hayes thing, though one I would hope isn't true: I remember picking up an issue of Pro Wrestling Illustrated as a kid, and an article on the Freebirds jokingly discussed how as a kid Hayes would bury cats up to their heads and run over them with lawnmowers. It seems like a Michael Hayes kind of thing to do.
 

Fox Mulder

Member
Yes! That was the height of this unreal idea. I can't believe they thought this was compelling TV. And you can see how it would have worked in a less cynical way, if they did something like Goldberg just leaving the arena because he hates his boss or something as bringing real drama into kayfabe, but instead they devalued their entire product and just kept screaming "this is fake" to us.

The match after that is Booker T vs Jarrett, I think, and the announcers are like "has Jarrett booked himself to win again?" What the fuck?

wow, I quit watching wcw by then. Wasn't Jarrett in some shitty nwo too?
 

NastyBook

Member
This thread should be turned into FUCK MICHAEL HAYES for a page or two to make Sunny sad about like Michael Hayes. Some other Michael Hayes stories: Got suspended for believing he had n-word privileges and telling Mark Henry that he was "more of a nigger" than Mark was. This was after he had been reprimanded for using slurs in the past because he feels it is okay since he doesn't "mean any harm" by them. And that was done on a WM weekend.

Has currently been suspended since last year for offering Rosa Mendez a drink literally days after she finished an alcohol rehab program.
Wow, this guy sounds like a hot mess. God, I could only imagine Henry's expression at being told some shit like that. I have to start watching his matches on the Network now.

Aaaaaand, I just found this. SMH, Stephanie. And I was feeling her so much two weeks ago on RAW.
 

strobogo

Banned
Some other things Michael Hayes has been accused of doing:


Calling David Kapoor (Ranjin Singh) a sand nigger.

Booker T. says he heard Hayes say the n word all the time because he thinks he is black, but Booker didn't take offense as he didn't believe there to be malice behind the word when Hayes used it.

It is rumored that part of the reason Lashley left WWE was due to some conflict with Hayes that made Hayes ice him out of stories on Smackdown.
 
Oh god. NWO 2000 its almost been blocked from my mind. What was the story with that faction? Was this before or after the New Blood era? 2000 era WCW was just so fucking bad from what I remember.
 

Into

Member
Everything Jarrett ever touched turned to shit.

This

He fucking sucks. His WWF days were ass, Jim Cornette was the whole gimmick, Jarrett on his own was useless, he had that awful white attire. There was one PPV where he "sang" with some country singer in WWF.

His WCW days were even worse, those orange glasses, the shitty short blond hair, the "Slap Nuts" gimmick, fuck he was shitty.

I know he isent the worst wrestler (the whole package) of all time, there are worse turds than him in this bussiness but in terms of being where he was on the card and who his father is, he was ass.
 
Going back and watching a lot of pre-Attitude era stuff, its funny seeing and hearing McMahon as an announcer. Was he liked in this role? Was he considered good? Because half the time I can't understand what he was saying...
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Going back and watching a lot of pre-Attitude era stuff, its funny seeing and hearing McMahon as an announcer. Was he liked in this role? Was he considered good? Because half the time I can't understand what he was saying...

Hell yes. Vince's enthusiasm is endearing and a lot of fun to listen to him especially with Ventura with him. Ventura would give him a hell of a hard time and he always took it in stride.
 

strobogo

Banned

For some reason that really, really bothers me.

Oh god. NWO 2000 its almost been blocked from my mind. What was the story with that faction? Was this before or after the New Blood era? 2000 era WCW was just so fucking bad from what I remember.

They reformed at the end of 1999. Russo forced Roddy Piper to recreate Montreal at Starrcade 1999, screwing Goldberg. The next night on Nitro, they had a rematch. The Outsiders came out and Bret SWERVED everyone by turning on Goldberg. Originally, the group was Bret, Hall, Nash, Jarrett. Scott Steiner returned a few weeks later and joined the group. The Harris Brothers were body guards. Then Bret got hurt. Then Nash got hurt. Then Jeff and Hall started fighting and were in a triple threat with Sid. Hall got hurt and never returned. Steiner went off to do his own thing. Jeff then turned on Nash and the nWo became just Jeff and the Harris Brothers, which ended completely once the New Blood kicked in. It was fucking garbage. All of it.
 
For some reason that really, really bothers me.



They reformed at the end of 1999. Russo forced Roddy Piper to recreate Montreal at Starrcade 1999, screwing Goldberg. The next night on Nitro, they had a rematch. The Outsiders came out and Bret SWERVED everyone by turning on Goldberg. Originally, the group was Bret, Hall, Nash, Jarrett. Scott Steiner returned a few weeks later and joined the group. The Harris Brothers were body guards. Then Bret got hurt. Then Nash got hurt. Then Jeff and Hall started fighting and were in a triple threat with Sid. Hall got hurt and never returned. Steiner went off to do his own thing. Jeff then turned on Nash and the nWo became just Jeff and the Harris Brothers, which ended completely once the New Blood kicked in. It was fucking garbage. All of it.

What a death to the nWo.

Whats ironic is that ultimately the nWo really did destroy WCW IRL
 

geomon

Member
For some reason that really, really bothers me.



They reformed at the end of 1999. Russo forced Roddy Piper to recreate Montreal at Starrcade 1999, screwing Goldberg. The next night on Nitro, they had a rematch. The Outsiders came out and Bret SWERVED everyone by turning on Goldberg. Originally, the group was Bret, Hall, Nash, Jarrett. Scott Steiner returned a few weeks later and joined the group. The Harris Brothers were body guards. Then Bret got hurt. Then Nash got hurt. Then Jeff and Hall started fighting and were in a triple threat with Sid. Hall got hurt and never returned. Steiner went off to do his own thing. Jeff then turned on Nash and the nWo became just Jeff and the Harris Brothers, which ended completely once the New Blood kicked in. It was fucking garbage. All of it.

You know with you recapping that year...it makes me feel like Oh Dae-Su after he's realized what he's done. It's not a good feeling.
 
How did the original NWO break up. The last thing I really remember about the original NWO in 1999 was that the Wolfpack NWO and Hollywood NWO merged into one group. I have totally forgot what happened inbetween the merger and the NWO that Bret was the leader in.
 

Razorskin

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Starting to watch RAW in chronological order with the PPVs, fun stuff. Hope the old RAW shows are uploaded regularly.



Edit: The next Wrestlemania Rewind is two Cena matches, I think this will be the first one I'll skip.
 

thomasos

Member
So my attempts to get on the network have been an unmitigated disaster. I'm able to login via my PC, so I know my account is working, but no luck with Xbox 360, PS4, or iPad.

On Xbox 360, I get an error saying "User or Password unrecognized." On PS4, after I enter my email and password and hit continue, nothing happens. (It doesn't even make a clicking noise.) And on iPad, I get a "Log in failed" error.

Anyone else run into similar issues? I called support and they were no help at all.

I finally figured out my problem (no thanks to WWE support). Evidently my password was too long; when I changed it to something shorter, everything suddenly worked. So bizarre.
 
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