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[inm8num2]

First this:

Now this:

Though, I didn't expect this to get as strong a reception as DoFP. Something about the trailers felt a little off, like the principal actors are going through the motions and the dramatic stakes feeling a little dull.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

The Forbes review was written by Shang Tsung.

Singer is hurting

 

[guek]

I'm assuming you meant 'there are no stakes unless someone dies'

And yes, CW was beyond safe. As awesome as the action scenes were, there was little weight to any of it.

And because the MCU has turned into this gigantic monolith of entertainment, I feel that there is very little reason to take chances anymore.

Dude

Spoiler

The biggest star in the franchise goes on a bloodlust fueled rampage, the second biggest star is on the wrong side of the law, the Avengers are fractured, and one of them was left paralyzed.

What else do you friggin want if not an obligatory death in order to see a movie as not "safe?"

 

[btown]

so apparently Jubilee

Spoiler

doesn't use her powers

bye

lol why is she even there then?

 

[Salsa]

why is she in the movie?

cause 90s accurate outfit

along with Pyslocke 90s accurate outfit

92 looms

 

[Cipherr]

I want Marvel to have the rights back simply for a more faithful adaptation of the characters. Fox movies are ok, but could be so much better.

Nah man their schedule is full enough. They are already having to delay stuff just to fit Spiderman in and whatnot. I don't even want them to get F4 back anymore. Just let everything stay where it is. I'm loving the MCU currently and don't want that to change anymore.

 

[SolidChamp]

Nope, I sure don't.

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.

 

[Frozenprince]

It's not a great superhero movie.
It's a pretty decent X-Men film, though.

And yeah, I said earlier upthread, but it's hard as hell not to see this movie, the direction it points, and think Kinberg & Co. aren't trying to get Jim Lee Animated X-Men '92 up on the big screen.

I dunno what it says about that version of the X-Men that film critics seem not all that happy to be pointed in that direction, though.

(the film being pretty sloppy probably doesn't help, though)



She's okay.

It's a good start, then.

Now if we could just get a good one, that'd be ace.

 

[mjc]

It's not a great superhero movie.
It's a pretty decent X-Men film, though.

And yeah, I said earlier upthread, but it's hard as hell not to see this movie, the direction it points, and think Kinberg & Co. aren't trying to get Jim Lee Animated X-Men '92 up on the big screen.

I dunno what it says about that version of the X-Men that film critics seem not all that happy to be pointed in that direction, though.

(the film being pretty sloppy probably doesn't help, though)

She's okay.

Oh god, why? At this point just go forward in time and make a new flick with the original team. Give them one of Whedon's AXM stories. (Besides the cure storyline. Thanks X3.)

 

[LiK]

cause 90s accurate outfit

along with Pyslocke 90s accurate outfit

92 looms

also Asian

 

[Glass Rebel]

How are they gonna do X-Men '92 without Rogue in tight green and yellow spandex?

I want answers goddammit

 

[FTF]

Well that's disappointing :/

 

[Bearthgar]

Yes, cowardice.

I felt in in Civil War, and it was probably my biggest complaint- I don't have any faith that the universe can take any chances with their characters anymore. Everyone feels invincible and it detracts from the experience.

The MCU hate is so salty. I'm sorry Tony didn't torture Steve Game of Thrones style and then murder his family on the lawn of the Oval Office while making Bucky watch through tear ridden eyes.

 

[PhazonBlazer]

Not like this...

 

[iPaul93]

Ouch.Can't say I'm surprised,though.

 

[Frozenprince]

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.

So did X2 just not happen or?

 

[Salsa]

I will never get the "I want a more faithful adaptation of the characters" argument

did you watch Xmen 1 and 2?

cast is perfect. character interpretations are almost note for note their comic book counterpart

wolverine vs cyclops. rogue storyline. it's fucking all there, and it's done totally great

people see black costumes and go "oh bad representation"

lol no. those 2 first films are XMEN as fuck. they're all there.

 

[Prompto]

The X-Men films have had great character moments

The MCU has also had great character moments

*shrugs*

 

[Shaanyboi]

lol why is she even there then?

To make you go "Look! It's Jubilee!"

 

[Divvy]

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

Everyone sees what Xavier's arc was in DOFP, it's just not any deeper than most other character arcs in other CBMs.

 

[BLACKLAC]

She's okay.

Is she the Nubian queen? Any hints of that at all?

 

[Allonym]

I don't find this surprising. I founded DOFP to be soooooooooooo underwhelming and was a poor continuation of the awesome First Class, which to me, remains as the best X-Men movie. Fuck, I guess all studios should just stop chasing this superhero movie money and go ahead and give these franchises to Marvel/Disney so they can be whole and be done better.

 

[mjc]

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.

Serious question: Have you seen Civil War? Because it directly addresses the concerns you have.

 

[icespide]

I will never get the "I want a more faithful adaptation of the characters" argument

did you watch Xmen 1 and 2?

cast is perfect. character interpretations are almost note for note their comic book counterpart

wolverine vs cyclops. rogue storyline. it's fucking all there, and it's done totally great

people see black costumes and go "oh bad representation"

lol no. those 2 first films are XMEN as fuck. they're all there.

would you prefer yellow spandex?

 

[Salsa]

you literally can't redo these characters within the MCU cause if they're faithful they'd be doing the same fucking thing

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Oh god, why? At this point just go forward in time and make a new flick with the original team.

That's exactly what Jim Lee Animated X-Men would be, though.

Into the 90s. Original (ish) team. New movie.

Is she the Nubian queen? Any hints of that at all?

I don't wanna get spoilery up in here, really. If there's a spoiler thread, I'll answer questions there, but I don't think the review thread is a great place for dropping black bars all over the place. I don't even really like black bars, period.

 

[Mr-Joker]

I find it funny that people are saying that the heroes in the MCU need to start dying when no-one says the same for James Bond, dude just wins fight like they are nothing.

Plus in comic book, death is only temporary as heroes and villains always come back from the dead.

why is she in the movie?

Because the 90s are in.

 

[Cipherr]

The MCU hate is so salty.

MCU doesnt even have anything to do with this movie nor this thread. It's just a salty reflex at this point whenever someone doesn't like a film outside of the MCU for someone to randomly throw in a "Well the MCU sucks so there!"

Its just as annoying as the "Give the rights to Disney" crap. I wish it was bannable. Just diverts the threads for multiple pages on end.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

Everyone sees what Xavier's arc was in DOFP, it's just not any deeper than most other character arcs in other CBMs.

Erik had a better arc in First Class tbh.

 

[SpotAnime]

DOFP is more of a character study than any MCU film and more than most other films in the genre. People don't seem to get this.

Not more, but about on par with them yeah. DOFP is as much a character study thank Avengers.

Now if you would have said First Class, or even the first two X-Men films, I'd have agreed with you without argument. But not DOFP.

But man, I'm going to have to watch that again soon. And The Wolverine, because awesome.

 

[LiK]

we'll never see the Black Panther/Storm love happen in the movies. so sad.

 

[jmood88]

I'm assuming you meant 'there are no stakes unless someone dies'

And yes, CW was beyond safe. As awesome as the action scenes were, there was little weight to any of it.

And because the MCU has turned into this gigantic monolith of entertainment, I feel that there is very little reason to take chances anymore.

What was safe about Civil War? I'm genuinely asking because I don't even know what most people are referring to when they talk about movies being safe or taking risks.

 

[SolidChamp]

So did X2 just not happen or?

So basically the only scene you watched in X2 was the very last shot with the subtle suggestion of the phoenix?

I do think the way they had the Phoenix appear in the post-credits sequence in X2 was...oh, wait...no...

 

[Vanish]

No surprise here. X-men movies have always been trash. MCU remains king of superhero movies

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

MCU doesnt even have anything to do with this movie nor this thread. It's just a salty reflex at this point whenever someone doesn't like a film outside of the MCU for someone to randomly throw in a "Well the MCU sucks so there!"

Its just as annoying as the "Give the rights to Disney" crap. I wish it was bannable. Just diverts the threads for multiple pages on end.

lmao the comic book movie version of port-begging.

 

[guek]

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.

So what your saying is everything you've got to say about comicbook movies is worthless?

 

[mjc]

That's exactly what Jim Lee Animated X-Men would be, though.

Into the 90s. Original (ish) team. New movie.

Only if we get 80s style long-haired Storm and straps on straps on straps Cyclops. Then I'll allow it.

 

[the anime man]

Still gonna see it. Liked DoFP a lot.

 

[icespide]

What was safe about Civil War? I'm genuinely asking because I don't even know what most people are referring to when they talk about movies being safe or taking risks.

if someone doesn't die its safe

 

[TrumanBurbank]

The MCU hate is so salty.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Frozenprince]

I will never get the "I want a more faithful adaptation of the characters" argument

did you watch Xmen 1 and 2?

cast is perfect. character interpretations are almost note for note their comic book counterpart

wolverine vs cyclops. rogue storyline. it's fucking all there, and it's done totally great

people see black costumes and go "oh bad representation"

lol no. those 2 first films are XMEN as fuck. they're all there.

What? X1 and 2 are the least X-Men movies about the X-Men ever made, and that includes Wolverine Origins.

 

[kewlmyc]

Geez....

Also no x-men in MCU, let get Fantastic 4 instead, that's the real money maker.

MCU Dr. Doom?

Oh god yes.

 

[Bearthgar]

MCU doesnt even have anything to do with this movie nor this thread. It's just a salty reflex at this point whenever someone doesn't like a film outside of the MCU for someone to randomly throw in a "Well the MCU sucks so there!"

Its just as annoying as the "Give the rights to Disney" crap. I wish it was bannable. Just diverts the threads for multiple pages on end.

I agree. On topic - I was really hoping this X-Men film would be good. I thought the trailers have been hit garbage though.

 

[Salsa]

What? X1 and 2 are the least X-Men movies about the X-Men ever made, and that includes Wolverine Origins.

explain

the movies focused on the school. focused on a character like Rogue which had virtually no action but was all about her struggle, about being different, rejected

you had the quips. Xavier was Xavier. Love triangle with scott and logan and jean. etc

Singer gets the Xmen

it's been a long time so people suddenly hate, but those first 2 movies are very much Xmen movies and got A LOT right

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.

That's nice and all, but I didn't mention the MCU. I said I wanted more character-focused X-Men movies and for them to look and feel more authentic. Like Deadpool.

 

[Finaj]

if someone doesn't die its safe

Game of Thrones accidentally created this trend that there can't be stakes/tension unless someone dies.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Oh shit. BvS RT thread redux?

 

[Naughty_Doge]

Trailers showed a mediocre film and that's what it looks like we're getting. Still, that's a shame.

Also, were the X-Men going through an emo phase of their life during this film?

 

[Frozenprince]

So basically the only scene you watched in X2 was the very last shot with the subtle suggestion of the phoenix?

I do think the way they had the Phoenix appear in the post-credits sequence in X2 was...oh, wait...no...

X2 existed for no other purpose than to sell Jackman's Wolverine, set-up the Phoenix, and the Sentinels.

 

[massoluk]

I gave this movie a lot of shits about the designs, but I didn't expect a rotten tomatoes rating