X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread

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didn't doubt tye sheridan as cyclops one bit, glad to hear he pulls it off. it's sophie turner's casting i find questionable.

the former was in freaking tree of life when he was like 11. and then mud with jeff nichols/mcconaughey. and now leading a spielberg movie. his trajectory is the strongest of any young actor imo.

anyways just one week away for me.
 
So it seems like apocalypse is a weak point of the film? Shame, as he's my favorite X-men villain. But I agree with the poster who said he isn't right for the universe singer created, a bit too cartoony of a character
 
exmachina64 said:
Sure, it's certainly a great setpiece and moment in Millar's run, but it's not a plausible moment outside of "comics logic." IIRC, Magneto didn't have any background in computer programming or engineering.
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Both regular Magneto and Ultimate Magneto are pretty accomplished scientists
 
Saw it tonight. It's okay but it could of been an hour shorter. My favourite part of the movie was when my mother yelled across two seats to my brother 'want a mint?!!' and people cracked up in the cinema. In my mother's defence the mints were nice.
 
Half of a great movie, half of a really disappointing one. Overall it was definitely "fun", and I'm still a big fan of Singer's take on X-men. Starting from a certain subplot in the middle of the film, it really went downhill in terms of imagination and interesting writing though. I could feel all the Kinberg fanservice leaking everything. So transparent and lame.

What worked:
- Awesome score. Beats the other two superhero films this year hands down.
- Great opening titles sequence. Fun and imaginative.
- Loved the introduction of the new mutants in the various episodic scenes around the world in the first act.
- Angel getting his metal wings is an AMAZING scene imo.
- Storm and Cyclops was doing really well. Closest to their comic characters so far.
- Oscar Isaac did everything he could with the limited writing for Apocalypse and more.
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First time I felt the Phoenix Force was presented with a sense of true power.

What didn't work:
- The mid-film
Weapon X facility
subplot was completely extraneous and killed the pacing. Added nothing to the film, felt really artificial. Shouldn't have been there.
- It's obvious they cut a lot more development between the X-men in the first half. Jubilee is hardly in the movie at all and has zero real scenes. Wtf?
- The big action at the end felt like videogame filler. The climatic battle with Apocalypse was straight up out-of-budget garbage.
- Magneto's character arc. I don't buy it. It feels contrived for the purpose of the film's overall direction rather than something the character would actually go through.
 
MrBS said:
Saw it tonight. It's okay but it could of been an hour shorter. My favourite part of the movie was when my mother yelled across two seats to my brother 'want a mint?!!' and people cracked up in the cinema. In my mother's defence the mints were nice.
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My viewing of this film is ruined now because I'll be expecting this to happen while I'm watching, too. :D
 
Just very mediocre...
J-Law is horrible again... Apocalypse was lame
Jean Grey and Cyclops decent
Y did Munn make such a big deal of her role as Psylocke..? She was hardly in it...
Angel and Storm... Blah
Quicksilver stole the show once again
Fassbender and McAvoy were great as usual
Climax looked so cheap..
 
Just come back from watching the movie and what a ride.

The Good:
- Great intro sequence setting up Apocalypse
- Quicksilver is amazing and stole the show, his 2 sequences had me in tears laughing. Someone give this man his own damn movie.
- New versions of Jean, Cyclops, Nightcrawler were really good
- Magento was great
- Xavier coming across almost like a stalker/perv to Moira was funny.
- The Way Angel became Arch Angel was great

Not so Good.
- CGI was great at times and crappy especially the closer you got to the end of the film
- Apocalypse, he's my best damn villain of all time so i was super hyped for him in this and he was wasted.

Overall though good effort but not as good as X2 or DoFP

Going to watch this again next week when i get the chance
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Duckroll's spoiler has me crazy hyped. So we're finally going to see it and not the garbage they tried to push on us in X3.
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Don't get your expectations too high lol. I think it was well presented and worked very well for what they used it for, but it's still a very small part of the film and acts as more of a lead-in to presumably how Singer would want to do his version of it moving forward.

In X3 the problem was they just ran right with it into Dark Phoenix being random uncontrollable power. Here it feels more like a controlled manifestation of what was hinted at in X2. If that makes sense.
 
guek said:
The random hate both FC and dofp get on this board is so bizarre. They're about the same in quality.
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Not even close imo. It's the difference between an 8/9 movie and a 6

Vaughn did good in casting xavier/Magneto tho. But thats about it imo. What singer brought back to the franchise made the big difference. Vaughn could not replicate it.
 
Discotheque said:
Not even close imo. It's the difference between an 8/9 movie and a 6

Vaughn did good in casting xavier/Magneto tho. But thats about it imo. What singer brought back to the franchise made the big difference. Vaughn could not replicate it.
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I'd say 7 vs an 8. FC had lower lows but the highs are just as good. I don't see a vast gulf in quality between the two, at least not enough for how common it is for people to pick one and bash the other.
 
Discotheque said:
Not even close imo. It's the difference between an 8/9 movie and a 6

Vaughn did good in casting xavier/Magneto tho. But thats about it imo. What singer brought back to the franchise made the big difference. Vaughn could not replicate it.
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Or it could be argued that what Vaughn's experience in doing First Class helped him to better lay the foundation for DoFP before Singer took over, and that without Vaughn's touch, SInger is lost at capturing the charm of doing X-men in decades gone by?

I mean Apocalypse is not even close to DoFP. So maybe that was a fluke of Vaughn's touch executed by Singer. Or maybe Simon Kinberg just has to stop writing screenplays. Lol.
 
duckroll said:
Or it could be argued that what Vaughn's experience in doing First Class helped him to better lay the foundation for DoFP before Singer took over, and that without Vaughn's touch, SInger is lost at capturing the charm of doing X-men in decades gone by?

I mean Apocalypse is not even close to DoFP. So maybe that was a fluke of Vaughn's touch executed by Singer. Or maybe Simon Kinberg just has to stop writing screenplays. Lol.
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I dunno. I havent seen apocalypse yet. But I think the difference between a scene like magneto/xavier on the plane in dofp and the Charles/Erik stuff in first class is night and day and just speaks to how much better singer is at getting those character interactions that made me love X2 so much. Plus the power showcase like nightcrawler at the white house translated to something arguably even greater with quicksilver and the blink stuff

Props to Vaughn for getting the dofp idea together for sure but I think singers and his adaptation would have been quite different in execution and I'm glad we got the former instead

You can tell one of them made X2 and the other did not. Plus he made the smart decision of bringing back Ottman. One of the MVPs of the franchise

Also I hated the kids in first class. I should hope this team is more tolerable.
 
Discotheque said:
I dunno. I havent seen apocalypse yet. But I think the difference between a scene like magneto/xavier on the plane in dofp and the Charles/Erik stuff in first class is night and day and just speaks to how much better singer is at getting those character interactions that made me love X2 so much. Plus the power showcase like nightcrawler at the white house translated to something arguably even greater with quicksilver.

Props to Vaughn for getting the dofp idea together for sure but I think singers and his adaptation would have been quite different in execution and I'm glad we got the former instead

You can tell one of them made X2 and the other did not. Plus he made the smart decision of bringing back Ottman. One of the MVPs of the franchise
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I'm simply saying that comparing First Class and DoFP, and using that as proof that Vaughn is clearly not as good as Singer when it comes to X-men isn't as definitive point as it seems. We don't know what Vaughn's DoFP might have been like, but judging from Kingsman, I'll say Vaughn is certainly capable of making much better comic book films than First Class too.

Singer's contribution to X-men is indisputable, but he's not infallible either. Throwing Vaughn under the bus seems odd when if not for him, the direction of X-men would have still been X-men 3 and X-men Origins. If not for First Class I doubt Singer would have been even interested in returning.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Turns out in retrospect her discussing how often she tried to do her own stunts became important because that aspect of the role is basically all the role is.
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No surprise there. It's still a Singer X-Men movie, after all. If you're not playing Magneto, Xavier or Wolverine, prepare to be a living cardboard cutout with super powers.

Maybe if you're really lucky, you'll get a quip!
 
Yeah he did great work in saving the franchise. His x3 would have likely been better than what we got with ratner too.

But man I don't even like Kingsman either. Vaughn loves delving into the campy side of comic books and embracing the schlock of it all and I know a lot of people prefer that. It's what made first class so unique to the rest of the franchise.

But I ain't a big fan of his filmmaking tbh outside of a few fun moments. And going by Vaughn's filmography (with the exception of layer cake which just looks like an outlier now) his and singers dofp would be considerably different. I think there's reasonable amount of evidence to assume to some extent how his approach to the movie would have gone.
 
Singer produced First Class and wrote on the script, so it's not like that movie was an example of a Singer-free X-Men movie anyway.
 
Not even close. I knew about him producing it. Just didn't like the movie too much outside of some of the casting and Fassbender doing his inglorious basterds routine
 
Slightly off-topic:

I'm booked to make the X-Men: Apocalypse OT, but this thread seems to be doing the job.

Still need an OT?
 
Quick said:
Slightly off-topic:

I'm booked to make the X-Men: Apocalypse OT, but this thread seems to be doing the job.

Still need an OT?
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Starting to wonder if OTs should go up when the reviews hit, as opposed to having specific/separate RT and OT threads, especially since more often than not the venn diagram of discussion between the two is pretty much a full moon.
 
I kinda feel for stuff like movies the most important thing is when there is a need for it. When people are talking about the film from having watched it, that's a good sign the OT should already be up, or we'll be using whatever thread that fits, and that kinda replaces the need for an OT.

The movie opened two whole days ago in a bunch of territories, so it's odd that there wasn't one. I just thought no one gave a shit about the movie or something. Lol.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Starting to wonder if OTs should go up when the reviews hit, as opposed to having specific/separate RT and OT threads, especially since more often than not the venn diagram of discussion between the two is pretty much a full moon.
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Yeah, I always thought three threads was overkill; review thread, original thread, spoiler thread. First two could be the same. Plus more often than not the reviews get put in the OT.
 
This actually opened this week where I live and I didn't even notice. These middling impressions really killed my interest in the movie. Maybe I'll watch it on a cheapo matinee.
 
duckroll said:
I kinda feel for stuff like movies the most important thing is when there is a need for it. When people are talking about the film from having watched it, that's a good sign the OT should already be up, or we'll be using whatever thread that fits, and that kinda replaces the need for an OT.

The movie opened two whole days ago in a bunch of territories, so it's odd that there wasn't one. I just thought no one gave a shit about the movie or something. Lol.
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Alright, I'll get an OT up for the weekend. lol

Just didn't want to contribute to thread overkill maybe.
 
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