Whenever I see that scene, I always think
They neuter Magneto so much they make shit stupid.
X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread
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They neuter Magneto so much they make shit stupid.
roflwaffles
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Does Magneto get his electromagnetic forcefield in this?
MisterHero
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I thought he was just turning the switches for the weapons on and off, the Sentinels by themselves were magnet proof. It was still weird though.
Someday you'll have Magneto manipulating DNA and teleporting by making his own wormholes. It all works somehow
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I'll keep my thoughts short for now but I'll say the following:
I thought this was a good x-men movie. There were scenes where I finally saw some real x-men shit. First time Singer ventured in to real x-men territory, and I fucking loved it. There were moments in here I enjoyed more than Civil War.
Aside from all the apocalypse related stuff, the movie is great. I just wish SInger didn't have to have a traditional bad guy. He handled the young X-men so fucking well. Perfect casting on all of them too. Sophie Turner IS Jean Grey, Cyclops is superb, and Nightcrawler is fantastic.
SInger, make a 90's x-men with these young mutants, stop giving 60% of the screen time to Magneto, Mystique and Villain Of The Movie.
The fact that he basically cut out Jubilee and all the young mutant related stuff and instead opted for all of that apocalypse crap puts this movie down. But honestly, the X-men are so fantastic and so lovely, that even the smallest glimpse of what they are really like is enough to elevate the movie.
I want the Jubilee Cut, with more of the young X-men and apocalypse removed altogether.
Rankings:
1. X-men Apocalypse.
2.X-men/X-men First Class/X-men Days of Future Past.
3. X-men 2.
Yes, it's my favourite X-men movie. It shows so much promise for the franchise.
I thought this was a good x-men movie. There were scenes where I finally saw some real x-men shit. First time Singer ventured in to real x-men territory, and I fucking loved it. There were moments in here I enjoyed more than Civil War.
Aside from all the apocalypse related stuff, the movie is great. I just wish SInger didn't have to have a traditional bad guy. He handled the young X-men so fucking well. Perfect casting on all of them too. Sophie Turner IS Jean Grey, Cyclops is superb, and Nightcrawler is fantastic.
SInger, make a 90's x-men with these young mutants, stop giving 60% of the screen time to Magneto, Mystique and Villain Of The Movie.
The fact that he basically cut out Jubilee and all the young mutant related stuff and instead opted for all of that apocalypse crap puts this movie down. But honestly, the X-men are so fantastic and so lovely, that even the smallest glimpse of what they are really like is enough to elevate the movie.
I want the Jubilee Cut, with more of the young X-men and apocalypse removed altogether.
Rankings:
1. X-men Apocalypse.
2.X-men/X-men First Class/X-men Days of Future Past.
3. X-men 2.
Yes, it's my favourite X-men movie. It shows so much promise for the franchise.
It's to avoid clashing with the one thing superhero movies can't beat. Sports. Ever since The Avengers, superhero movies in the summer get released in Europe first to avoid clashing with international football tournaments and the Olympics. Euro 2016 starts next month and all eyes will be on that.
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Go watch in cinema.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Go see it. Worth the ticket.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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TBF they did have an entire subplot where Mystique stole the sentinel blueprints and they showed Magneto studying. At least they made it seem semi-plausible in a comic booky sort of way. Unlike Mark Millar who just had Magneto figure out how to reprogram them on the spot.
Uzumaki Goku
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Wow, what happened from Days of Future Past?
Wow, what happened from Days of Future Past?
Code_Link
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GO. TO. THE. CINEMA.
Yeezus H. Christ
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The disconnect between review and GAF first impressions is a little weird, but GAF first impressions are for the most part no different from fan screenings in terms of inflated positive reception. Excitement level is still at a low, but not as low as it was when review s first released.
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This is a good x-men movie, and a good movie.
The rotten tomatoes rating just shows that people expect something else from superhero movies now after what marvel has planted in to audiences minds.
The rotten tomatoes rating just shows that people expect something else from superhero movies now after what marvel has planted in to audiences minds.
Discotheque
Banned
Sculli is 100 with comic book movies so I'm expecting something pretty good until the shit hits the fan here. Will see in theaters though no doubt for Bryan Singer xmen and jon ottman.
glad to hear he at least seemed to get the young cast right.
glad to hear he at least seemed to get the young cast right.
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Definitely not a fan of how Singer has handled the X-men since the beginning. This is the first time I felt like I saw something different from him in terms how how he dealt with the X-men.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
I don't think this is really the case. DOFP had stellar reviews despite Marvel having already been a hugely established franchise.
While I haven't seen the film yet, a couple of complaints from reviewers are:
-Apocalypse is a boring antagonist and a waste of Oscar Issac's talent
-Jennifer Lawrence gives a poor performance as Mystique
-Mystique/Magneto are out of character
-Four horseman aren't interesting
-Disaster movie with no regard for civilian life (again)
-Bad ending
BUT, people in this thread seem to like it.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
Apocalypse does look like the worst part of the movie, though. Does he job, or is he actually as powerful as he's hyped to be?
IndoAssassin
Banned
Not to mention an unidentified flying object flying towards the President of the US during the frickin Cold War when tensions were at their highest would have been pinging the radar like crazy . Would have expected some fighters to try and intercept it
at least.
The military didn't even bother to respond lol. One would think they would send an SOS the President is under attack.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
lol
Some critics just can't honestly dislike it, huh?
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I'm sure the majority of reviewers don't mention Marvel movies in their reviews for this movie.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I really liked the film but all of those complaints are definitely valid except for Mystique being out of character. Despite Lawrence's performance, there's nothing here that contradicts what was established in the past 2 films with her. I would also add that I thought Sophie Turner was terrible. Quicksilver is our Lord and Savior though.
Discotheque
Banned
the small glimpses of quicksilver i've seen in tv spots is incredible. flash has so much to live up to next year in justice league. too much.
IndoAssassin
Banned
If you have to have read the comics or be a fan of the characters to enjoy a movie, it will be polarizing because not everyone reads comics and majority of movie watchers don't know much about these characters.
Why Marvel movies get a pass, is we are watching the same characters played by the same actors for eight years. People are invested in the characters, and watching the character arcs not just over one movie but multiple movies, helps with people's enjoyment of the films.
The problem with the X-Men films is, there is no investment in these characters since they keep changing them up or killing them off. So if the movie isn't entertaining enough people won't care for it.
The same thing happened with BvS. The main question I kept asking myself is why should I be caring for what happens to either of these characters? And I never got an answer because I was never invested in them to begin with and the movie did nothing for me to feel for them.
Apocalypse should have taken place after a character focused movie so that we would care about what happens to these characters in a world ending event. Apocalypse would have probably gotten better reviews then.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, they're gonna need one hell of a director to top what Singer has done. I'm glad Seth Grahame-Smith left the project, the film needs someone with more experience. It will never ever happen but Edgar Wright would be my dream choice.
Discotheque
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yeah man edgar wright or sam raimi would be really fun for that character (and just the genre in general) imo. everybody else would be an underwhelming choice for me.
It's not that the Four Horsemen aren't interesting, I love the look of all of them and they could've been great. It's that they become mute followers after being recruited by Apocalypse.
The film never elaborates why some of them would even follow Apocalypse let alone why they become silent slaves to his cause. That is probably the biggest issue I had with the film.
On your other points:
- Apocalypse: I thought he was appropriately menacing and overpowered, but yes you can't do much acting in there
- Mystique: Could use more euthusiasm for the role, yeah. Motivation-wise, well she wants to get Magneto out of trouble and not have the world turn to shit, seems plausible to me
- Magneto: I'd argue Magneto is fine, he gave no shits anymore. The problem is he becomes a mute like the rest of the Horsemen and it's incredibly hard to see what's in his head after that
- Disaster movie: Not sure what you were expecting
FootieGamer
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I saw this earlier today and really really enjoyed it. I didn't like the look of the trailers and the reviews put me off a bit, but I'm glad I went.
I urge anyone else who is on the fence to go see it! It's great fun imo
I urge anyone else who is on the fence to go see it! It's great fun imo
MisterHero
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God it's over a week before I can see it. I hate that other people can see things before I can
SolidChamp
Banned
Two friends of mine here in Taipei saw it already. One liked it a lot and said it was way better than he thought it would be (gave it an 8/10). The other didn't like it as much and gave it a 6/10...but this is also a guy who likes Adam Sandler movies so his opinion counts for very little to me on such matters.
YesNOnoNOYes
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he was really, really fun ! omg i really liked his parts * _____ *
and pizzadog was dorky as hell lol
and i agree with kabukiman, sophie turner didn't really pull through for me. she felt awkward and wooden in her scenes. but i liked young cyclops, i think they nailed him really well
i also thought psylocke's outfit looked like psylocke, but as for her characterization, she wasnt really utilized.i dislike angel fairly strongly though :x
wolverine was on point though lol. snikt. raaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrr :>
if you are on the fence, go see it! this was a really fun movie for me
the setting is superbly 90s and the soundtrack was cool~i definitely can say i went in skeptical and came out fangirling ^____^
Yes, even Quicksilver can't penetrate it.
Dash_Riprock
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I'm having flashbacks to March.
broncobuster
Banned
Had a friend describe this as Singer making a MCU film. His tone wasn't necessarily positive or negative...
For others who've seen it, does it revel in the time period? In trailers the '80s qualities don't come off too strong.
For others who've seen it, does it revel in the time period? In trailers the '80s qualities don't come off too strong.
Just took nearly 20 years to get a trademark of the character
YesNOnoNOYes
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it is very 90s, i think. the set pieces were on point and the characters' outfits (not the superhero costumes, just what people were wearing and stuff) were all very 90s feelingy.
them large glasses with thick rims and those hairdos of that era were really illustrative of the era, i think...
Yeezus H. Christ
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I wonder if/when Dr. Strange, a decidedly tonally different film from most MCU fare, opens to good reviews that people will still have excuses for their non-Marvel movies flopping critically..
Sophie Turner as Jean: Yeah, I just never saw Jean in her performance and I feel bad about it.
But it's set in 1983... That said, Moira's hair when she's arriving and at the mansion looked too much like Scully.
YesNOnoNOYes
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yea i knowwww but it feels more 90s to me than 80s
maybe personal bias though. i didn't really experience the 80s .____.
exmachina64
Banned
Sure, it's certainly a great setpiece and moment in Millar's run, but it's not a plausible moment outside of "comics logic." IIRC, Magneto didn't have any background in computer programming or engineering.
SolidChamp
Banned
My wife and I just got back from seeing it:
I'll rank it amongst the other films first:
1.DoFP
2. First Class
3. X2
4. The Wolverine
5. X-Men
6. X-Men: Apocalypse
7. X-Men The Last Stand
I would say it's on par with the first X-Men film, maybe a little lower, but definitely better than The Last Stand. I'm not a fan of the ten point scale, but I'd give it 7/10.
My biggest problems with it are the jarring tonal shifts; there are some goofy looking scenes that are just off for some reason, especially the opening scene and the one following it. There are also some amazing scenes and another Quicksilver crowd pleaser (of course), which was hilarious (but not as good as his scene in DoFP).
I feel like they knew they weren't going to top DoFP, and for the third film for these particular characters in this retconning/reimagining of the franchise, they just sort of went all out. They even make a meta reference to "third films" in a neat little scene that pays homage to the time period.
Apocalypse isn't a good fit for Singer's X-Men universe...this is easily as close as he's ever gotten to the 90's animated series and comic books, but it just felt odd and goofy in certain places and the menace and malevolence of the Apocalypse of the 90's just wasn't there. They should have cast a massive dude like the actor who plays The Mountain on GoT, did the original concept make up and prosthetics that were revealed to be the first bid for the contract by an effects company, and then dubbed the voice over to make it closer to the animated series.
Oscar Isaac is such an incredible actor and yet, he's just not a great fit for Apocalypse.
I felt like there was far more at stake in DoFP in that opening sequence when the mutants were being slaughtered by the sentinels than I did from the whole of this movie.
Ooh, but WOW did they nail Jean/Scott. I was super surprised by the kid playing Cyclops...Not only did he do an awesome job of emulating some of James Marsden's original mannerisms and performance, but he brought the character added depth and made him more relatable. I thought he was gonna suck in the role. And Sophie Turner is inspired casting; LOVED her as Jean. Those two together had some good chemistry which I feel like could be expanded upon if they use them in another film. Hopefully they do.
Jennifer Lawrence was better here than in DoFP. Fassbender and McAvoy continue to deliver some serious, next-level performances for the genre...they bring some serious acting chops to these films and there aren't many comic book films that have that caliber of performance on display.
Tonally the movie is hit and miss, which is the big issue for me. Right away the first two scenes had me going "uh oh" before yanking me back down to the familiar and grounded elements of previous films.
Still, one of the weaker films in the series. But my wife and I were never bored and had a good time, nonetheless.
Days of Future Past is really something special. That's the "Empire Strikes Back" of the franchise. If any of you have only seen it once, you really should revisit it. It gets better with repeat viewings.
I'll rank it amongst the other films first:
1.DoFP
2. First Class
3. X2
4. The Wolverine
5. X-Men
6. X-Men: Apocalypse
7. X-Men The Last Stand
I would say it's on par with the first X-Men film, maybe a little lower, but definitely better than The Last Stand. I'm not a fan of the ten point scale, but I'd give it 7/10.
My biggest problems with it are the jarring tonal shifts; there are some goofy looking scenes that are just off for some reason, especially the opening scene and the one following it. There are also some amazing scenes and another Quicksilver crowd pleaser (of course), which was hilarious (but not as good as his scene in DoFP).
I feel like they knew they weren't going to top DoFP, and for the third film for these particular characters in this retconning/reimagining of the franchise, they just sort of went all out. They even make a meta reference to "third films" in a neat little scene that pays homage to the time period.
Apocalypse isn't a good fit for Singer's X-Men universe...this is easily as close as he's ever gotten to the 90's animated series and comic books, but it just felt odd and goofy in certain places and the menace and malevolence of the Apocalypse of the 90's just wasn't there. They should have cast a massive dude like the actor who plays The Mountain on GoT, did the original concept make up and prosthetics that were revealed to be the first bid for the contract by an effects company, and then dubbed the voice over to make it closer to the animated series.
Oscar Isaac is such an incredible actor and yet, he's just not a great fit for Apocalypse.
I felt like there was far more at stake in DoFP in that opening sequence when the mutants were being slaughtered by the sentinels than I did from the whole of this movie.
Ooh, but WOW did they nail Jean/Scott. I was super surprised by the kid playing Cyclops...Not only did he do an awesome job of emulating some of James Marsden's original mannerisms and performance, but he brought the character added depth and made him more relatable. I thought he was gonna suck in the role. And Sophie Turner is inspired casting; LOVED her as Jean. Those two together had some good chemistry which I feel like could be expanded upon if they use them in another film. Hopefully they do.
Jennifer Lawrence was better here than in DoFP. Fassbender and McAvoy continue to deliver some serious, next-level performances for the genre...they bring some serious acting chops to these films and there aren't many comic book films that have that caliber of performance on display.
Tonally the movie is hit and miss, which is the big issue for me. Right away the first two scenes had me going "uh oh" before yanking me back down to the familiar and grounded elements of previous films.
Still, one of the weaker films in the series. But my wife and I were never bored and had a good time, nonetheless.
Days of Future Past is really something special. That's the "Empire Strikes Back" of the franchise. If any of you have only seen it once, you really should revisit it. It gets better with repeat viewings.
SolidChamp
Banned
The cast actually did good across the board, with the exception of a couple of flat scenes from J Law (still, nowhere near as horrible as people were thinking she'd be).
You can just tell Olivia Munn is ready to do more as Psylocke, but she just doesn't get much to work with. (that costume tho...)
Angel is a complete waste of a character.
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