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[Papa_Wisdom]

With the next console rumoured to be pretty much a console/pc hybrid (with steam integrated) are any of you Xbox owners excited at that prospect?

As an Xbox only gamer (I do have a ps4 and a pc) but seeing the released specs of what’s needed to play the final fantasy part 2 remake And my pc seemingly not been up to the task in the gpu stakes is either have to upgrade my pc or buy a ps5.

If the next Xbox allows you access to your already built library of games plus steam support for example that would be something that would really appeal to me.

I guess (for me) it would be how open they make the steam aspect of it (eg the ability to install mods etc)

I know people would just say buy a pc or a ps5 but this gen there aren’t really any ps5 exclusives that peak my Interest (steller blade and the rouge like game they released at the console launch, forgot the name are the only ones I want really) And buying a new pc wouldn’t allow me to play my back cat games from the og Xbox and 360 games)

I hope this thread doesn’t revolve into a thread on shitting on Xbox as it’s stuff we’ve all heard before but I’m genuinely interested in whether other green rats like me see the positives in this direction?

 

[salva]

 

[vaibhavpisal]

I want console experience with option to buy from other stores like steam.

How will they get plethora of PC games (steam) running on it?

Dunno. They should figure that out. Will pay pc prices if they make it like that.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I don’t understand how it could run steam but still be affordable, but that said, if they could pull it off I’d a lot rather my Xbox be able to run steam then not run steam. More options the better I suppose.

The positive would be that if they can release an affordable competitive console that runs steam too, then it will have a lot more games on it.

To better relay my confusion, Steam is a bigger competitor than Sony is, according to Microsoft right now. Can we imagine a world where Microsoft releases its next console with PSN on it? Releasing a console with steam on it is very similar, but that’s what I keep hearing. As a consumer, it is exciting, but I don’t want to pay $1100 for it.

 

[Robb]

I’m not likely to purchase any Xbox again after this gen.

 

[Mattyp]

I want console experience with option to buy from other stores like steam.

How will they get plethora of PC games (steam) running on it?

Dunno. They should figure that out. Will pay pc prices if they make it like that.

It wouldn’t be hard at all, the backend is literally Windows the next xbox has the minimum specs that it comes with and that’s that. Steam games run in windows game mode while Xbox games run from the Xbox front end.

I want to still buy physical games, the generation that ends I’ve got no need to continue with anything but a usb stick and controller.

I don’t see steam turning down even a 30 million player base opened up to. Will be interesting if they introduce a handheld hybrid that runs the Xbox gamepass front end and steam front end.

 

[Pop]

Die hard Xbox fans will have no choice

It will be that way and at least $700

 

[Crayon]

The thought of them offering steam prominently out of the box is crazy to me. I don't see how that helps them. It's like intentionally handing off their users and producing free hardware for valve.

 

[Parazels]

Yes, if it can play this gen games at max console settings, when docked.

I don't care about its performance in next gen games, because I always play past gen games + indies.

 

[Rawbutt Jellybean]

Not much of an xbox gamer and haven't been since the 360 days but I could be interested in a hybrid if the price is right. Could see it even being a success since PC gaming is on the rise despite general PC usage being on the decline.

 

[adamsapple]

Either a dedicated set-top box or PC hybrid, either is fine as long as it retains full functionality, including BC.

 

[Maddoxswe]

So all xbox owners here have answered this thread now, mods can close

 

[poppabk]

I just want a game centric fork of Windows. SteamOS if it actually gets made might still be the way to go, but windows based does have advantages.

 

[Gamezone]

Why would I buy something from Microsoft if their devices has Steam on them?

 

[Parazels]

Why would I buy something from Microsoft if their devices has Steam on them?

To remain access to your Xbox library.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Why would I buy something from Microsoft if their devices has Steam on them?

Game could be on sale there. Competing market places.

 

[Effigenius]

Yes,I think that’s what they should to. MS owns windows. Make a super slimmed down version of windows that can run games well and let me access launchers.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I can't really make heads or tales of the idea from a business perspective. It'd have to be priced for profit, and I doubt many would buy something like that and then use the "Xbox" portion of it to do anything but play games they already paid for.

You'd just completely lose the "I play consoles partly because I don't want to pay for a PC' crowd.

Would I buy one? Depends on how good it is and how it's priced.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Imagine Microsoft launching such a hybrid console - Steam and the MS/Xbox store available on it.
Imagine Valve launching a Steam stationary console at the same time - Steam obviously on it, with access to almost the whole Xbox library because MS in on there, too.

Which of the two you think would be more successful? I can tell you for the German, probably wider European market, too, quite easily.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

PC is already an Xbox.

Would rather GabeN take the Xbox out of the PC instead.

 

[LectureMaster]

Either a dedicated set-top box or PC hybrid, either is fine as long as it retains full functionality, including BC.

 

[Little Chicken]

Some Freegunners need reminding that Foam Stars and Concord happened this year.

Acting pretty aloof for fans of an ugly console that is relying on CCP spyware for life support.

 

[Ozzie666]

Every generation I get sucked back into the disaster that is XBOX, the first 2 boxes were fantastic. But since my mate Don took over, it's just been a train wreck. The Series X was sexy as hell and had the specs too. But I keep selling xboxes, my favourite was the Xbox One Scorpio, great machine. I rather they just stop wasting everyones time and just be what they are, a third party publisher like everyone else, most of which don't have their own box or successful closed eco-system. MS won't give that up.

Microsoft want's everything, third-party publisher, their own eco-system, their own shop/app and streaming optins.

I'd love to see them bow down to Gabe and need that steam support to succeed. There hardware as a console is dead to me, it needs to be something more honestly. If that's Hybrid ok, but I'm not sure third-parties are going to like it.

 

[SHA]

The most important factor is aging, if it increases aging on both sides then sure, why not? If they mean business like Nvidia, then absolutely not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for achieving better results and getting the most out of the silicon but are some brands like Nvidia willing to cooperate? Cause it seems they don't care and could monopolize the industry cause they have the advantage to be aggressive.

 

[Fess]

I want this:

An Xbox legacy PC launcher with perfect big screen mode and perfect emulation of Xbox, 360, XB1, XBS and I want to have access to all my purchased digital games and a way to transfer disc games to digital purchases.

I have no use for a PC Xbox hybrid console with hardware worth $1000 or $2000 or even $3000 because it’ll run everything worse than what I already have. Might still get hit by FOMO because I like tech, but I don’t need it.

If they backpedal and start doing console-only exclusives again. Then I’ll buy whatever they launch. Same reason I bought a PS5 Pro. Exclusivity works. Without any exclusivity I’ll just go with what’s best and that’ll never be a cheap plastic box under the TV.

 

[Superkewl]

I already decided this the last Xbox I buy. Going Nintendo from here on out.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Of course.

It would be brilliant if the next Xbox was a console hybrid but with pc.

A more streamlined os like a console but with support for other launchers such as steam would be brilliant.

It's too good for ms to do it.

 

[xrnzaaas]

I don't see myself buying another Xbox device.
- I don't need a hybrid device in my life and if I'd ever change my mind I'd buy a Steam Deck
- I still want to play new games on a console so I'll just play MS games on PS5/PS6
- if one more traditional Xbox is made it'll almost certainly become all-digital - that's a big no from me
- my XSX can cover current titles and BC games from previous generations

 

[Ashamam]

It's like intentionally handing off their users and producing free hardware for valve.

They might do it in a quid pro quo deal. Native xbox app on (new) steamdeck in return for the opposite. Getting GP on a Steamdeck might be seen as a big enough win.

 

[Crayon]

They might do it in a quid pro quo deal. Native xbox app on (new) steamdeck in return for the opposite. Getting GP on a Steamdeck might be seen as a big enough win.

That's the issue, though. If your giving the owners of these two platforms the choice both steam and Xbox app, the will probably give a lot more money to valve. That's what happens on windows, now.

 

[nani17]

They're kinda like PCs already.

 

[T-0800]

Why buy a machine that will release its games on Sony hardware? I don't get it. Either buy a PS5 or buy a PC.

 

[T-0800]

Some Freegunners need reminding that Foam Stars and Concord happened this year.

Acting pretty aloof for fans of an ugly console that is relying on CCP spyware for life support.

 

[IDKFA]

Yes,I think that’s what they should to. MS owns windows. Make a super slimmed down version of windows that can run games well and let me access launchers.

What you're asking for is a PC, but with far less functionality and options.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

With the next console rumoured to be pretty much a console/pc hybrid (with steam integrated)

I don’t understand how it could run steam but still be affordable

Well that's that sorted.

 

[Darsxx82]

All starting from the already clear multiplatform strategy (although with MS nothing is ever clear), of course the Xbox user with that hybrid PC from the start, would be in a better situation than in the current one and their investment would be more "protected."

- 3rd party support for the "console" would not be dependent on the amount of sales because the games would be on it by default, including PS ones.

- Would benefit from competition between stores.

- The PC user would also benefit because optimization on PC could gain interest.

Then there would be knowing how MS would carry out that idea without it being an open door to more Steam users than WinStore users.
I imagine that the incentive for users of that console hybrid to buy from XboxStore will be done through:

1- Games in the store would be specifically optimized for hybrid hardware unlike the version present on Steam.
2-BC with previous consoles.

- Gamepass

-Temporary exclusives in the Xbox store or special offers.

In general, make buying a game in the Xbox store more attractive to loyal Xbox console users and even PC users looking for the convenience of a console while maintaining the access and benefit of a PC.

In this new multiplatform strategy, remaining as a hardware manufacturer would only make sense if the product you offer is open. Otherwise it would be a product the same as the competition but with fewer games.

It is clear that, with this strategy of launching games on PS, the product it launches will not seek to compete in sales with PS6. But a product with a healthy user base that generates returns and adds users to the ecosystem.

 

[Gilgalaad]

I will probably buy the PS6 model of the next Xbox

 

[Team Andromeda]

I'll Just be happy with a super powerful XBox like the OG Xbox. I guess it would be nice if even for 3rd party games you'll only have to buy a game and then can play it on the console, PC and handheld.

 

[yanhash]

 

[drganon]

He's currently in the anger stage of grief.

 

[cireza]

I’m not likely to purchase any Xbox again after this gen.

Same here. I am most probably done with their shit. Never was interested in the shitty PC experience, and current Xbox is already way too much of that.

They shifted their business to something else that probably generates them a ton of money, but that is going to take us further away from a classic console experience. So largely to the detriment of the current player base. No thanks.

 

[Pandawan]

I want next XBOX console to no exist so it will clear the path for SteamBOX

 

[M1chl]

Well no, given that Xbox OS still actually works reliably, the Windows Experience™ isn't what I would call ideal

 

[Three]

The thought of them offering steam prominently out of the box is crazy to me. I don't see how that helps them. It's like intentionally handing off their users and producing free hardware for valve.

The only way it works is if they do an expensive console sold for a pretty margin. It's the Surface people in charge now so no different to those devices. People and some media outlets will pretend expensive consoles are fine now when it happens.

 

[Ashamam]

That's the issue, though. If your giving the owners of these two platforms the choice both steam and Xbox app, the will probably give a lot more money to valve. That's what happens on windows, now.

Per title sure, but what if MS is prioritising GP? I mean it hasn't worked so far (at the level projected) but if they are serious about subscription being the earner and hardware not, then the goal has to be putting GP on every piece of hardware they can. I could see them making big concessions to get there.

 

[KungFucius]

I would love an open Xbox console that runs windows. I would probably get 2, one for each kid. I'd be fine if you had to reboot to switch modes too. Well duh, because that would be my kids' problem.

 

[Roberts]

I have some many unplayed xbox games, they will last me for years, so yeah, I will buy that pc hybrid thing if it is real.

 

[jm89]

The thought of them offering steam prominently out of the box is crazy to me. I don't see how that helps them. It's like intentionally handing off their users and producing free hardware for valve.

This is why I have no idea why people who are big on the Xbox ecosystem want steam on the next Xbox.

Its one way to kill of the ecosystem even faster. Steam os is also a future threat to ms. Makes no sense for MS to help steam grow at their expense of the own platform.

 

[Parazels]

Same here. I am most probably done with their shit. Never was interested in the shitty PC experience, and current Xbox is already way too much of that.

They shifted their business to something else that probably generates them a ton of money, but that is going to take us further away from a classic console experience. So largely to the detriment of the current player base. No thanks.

 

[Goalus]

As an Xbox only gamer (I do have a ps4 and a pc) but seeing the released specs of what’s needed to play the final fantasy part 2 remake And my pc seemingly not been up to the task in the gpu stakes is either have to upgrade my pc or buy a ps5.

With the disaster that is the Paystation being not an option and the Xbox library being as large as never before, I'd prefer the next Xbox to be a classic console limited to the MS Store. However, if they can pull it off to smoothly integrate Steam, EGS and GOG, I'd pay a high price (€1000 or more) - especially GOG would be a real treat.

This is why I have no idea why people who are big on the Xbox ecosystem want steam on the next Xbox.

Its one way to kill of the ecosystem even faster. Steam os is also a future threat to ms. Makes no sense for MS to help steam grow at their expense of the own platform.

True, but GOG and Epic would be nice.