Sounds like a nightmare for quality assurance. I can imagine a day in the future where we get digital foundry videos about the Asus Xbox Next vs the MSI Xbox Next, and see the MSI box suffering from lower frame rates due to over heating, throttling and a poor design, or the Asrock Xbox having a cheaper NVME that causes slower load times.
I'm sure something will get "leaked". People need to know where to play GTA6.
My bets are on the vga which is said to have 100 million views.
So are we talking a PC/Xbox hybrid? That plays either version of the game? And is this something the rumoured handheld could do?
And you would end up with a Series S situation where a game is only certified to release on Xbox if it runs on ALL the machines. Trying to enforce feature parity between all these machines is going to be a nightmare.
Honestly don't know
If true, what is being hinted at, is a machine that will have the "target specs" specified by Microsoft - it will still be the Xbox, but made by different OEMs. Similar to what they do with PC. They make the OS while others make the hardware (I know they have their own hardware line, and there is nothing stopping them from doing the same with Xbox). So MS will design the Xbox OS and it's features, and the OEMs will need to configure hardware to support those features and the games.
God forbid people speculate about games, gaming hardware, etc etc on a gaming forum meant for discussion. Most of your posts read as: "Why are people discussing things?!"
If they went this route I think it would outright be a PC with some sort of Xbox dashboard that autoloads on boot and has some custom setup. Can't really do it any other way. I assume from then on all your games would just be PC games.
They have their own stores and there are well over a billion active users on Windows. They could do it if they wanted.
Doubtful.
I still think its very appealing to many that simply don't want to game on a PC that deals with a PC all day at work, those who have massive Xbox libraries and those who might want the very best place to play 3rd party bangers that launch on console only firstFrom Xbox themselves
Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation' - IGN
Sarah Bond revealed that Xbox is working on a next-generation Xbox console to deliver "the largest technical leap" in the upcoming hardware generation.www.ign.com
In my opinion, if they are actually trying to launch a new generation right now (alone)....that would be the dumbest idea possible to make.
1. Faith in Xbox is at an all time low
2. Xbox sales are falling off a cliff
3. This generation is just getting started
4. Their games are going to PC and PS5
5. If its more powerful than the PS5 Pro, it will be more expensive
6. Games don't sell well on Xbox, as is.
7. Having Steam integration will destroy their XBL revenue and game sales further
8. They're constantly pivoting and this would another pivot
9. PCs that you can't modify are a bad idea
10. I don't see people leaving their platforms for Xbox at this point
11. Most of their software revenue currently is coming from PS5 and PC.
I don't think anyone aside from the most hardcore Xbox fanboys would even be interested in it....and at that point, I could just see them building a PC over buying a PC that's not a PC.
I think a Pro system similar to PS5 Pro is more digestible (but all indications point to that not be the case), but trying to launch a new generation on a closed PC or new console...is absolutely ridiculous and won't go over well.
I just don't see people in mass having faith in them.
They need to repair their reputation in the community before trying to sell them on a new generation.
The only way a closed PC makes sense at all, is because they are completely shutting down shop in terms of consoles and they want to give their hardcore base a place to go so their game library doesn't evaporate...to begin transitioning them to PC, but again (depending on the price) I could just see them building a PC instead.
So it still doesn't make sense, in the end.
Just my two cents.
I'm just interested in an Xbox OS on PC so i can access my BC Library. If it worked like Steam bug picture, that i can just press a button on a pad and it boots from windows into xbox that would be sweet.From Xbox themselves
Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation' - IGN
Sarah Bond revealed that Xbox is working on a next-generation Xbox console to deliver "the largest technical leap" in the upcoming hardware generation.
In my opinion, if they are actually trying to launch a new generation right now (alone)....that would be the dumbest idea possible to make.
1. Faith in Xbox is at an all time low
2. Xbox sales are falling off a cliff
3. This generation is just getting started
4. Their games are going to PC and PS5
5. If its more powerful than the PS5 Pro, it will be more expensive
6. Games don't sell well on Xbox, as is.
7. Having Steam integration will destroy their XBL revenue and game sales further
8. They're constantly pivoting and this would another pivot
9. PCs that you can't modify are a bad idea
10. I don't see people leaving their platforms for Xbox at this point
11. Most of their software revenue currently is coming from PS5 and PC.
I don't think anyone aside from the most hardcore Xbox fanboys would even be interested in it....and at that point, I could just see them building a PC over buying a PC that's not a PC.
I think a Pro system similar to PS5 Pro is more digestible (but all indications point to that not be the case), but trying to launch a new generation on a closed PC or new console...is absolutely ridiculous and won't go over well.
I just don't see people in mass having faith in them.
They need to repair their reputation in the community before trying to sell them on a new generation.
The only way a closed PC makes sense at all, is because they are completely shutting down shop in terms of consoles and they want to give their hardcore base a place to go so their game library doesn't evaporate...to begin transitioning them to PC, but again (depending on the price) I could just see them building a PC instead.
So it still doesn't make sense, in the end.
Just my two cents.
Yeah, I just think that audience is incredibly small and with the state they're in currently, it's even smaller than it would have been for something like that a few years ago.
Ok thanks.
If they can transfer Xbox library to pc.From Xbox themselves
Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation' - IGN
Sarah Bond revealed that Xbox is working on a next-generation Xbox console to deliver "the largest technical leap" in the upcoming hardware generation.
In my opinion, if they are actually trying to launch a new generation right now (alone)....that would be the dumbest idea possible to make.
1. Faith in Xbox is at an all time low
2. Xbox sales are falling off a cliff
3. This generation is just getting started
4. Their games are going to PC and PS5
5. If its more powerful than the PS5 Pro, it will be more expensive
6. Games don't sell well on Xbox, as is.
7. Having Steam integration will destroy their XBL revenue and game sales further
8. They're constantly pivoting and this would another pivot
9. PCs that you can't modify are a bad idea
10. I don't see people leaving their platforms for Xbox at this point
11. Most of their software revenue currently is coming from PS5 and PC.
I don't think anyone aside from the most hardcore Xbox fanboys would even be interested in it....and at that point, I could just see them building a PC over buying a PC that's not a PC.
I think a Pro system similar to PS5 Pro is more digestible (but all indications point to that not be the case), but trying to launch a new generation on a closed PC or new console...is absolutely ridiculous and won't go over well.
I just don't see people in mass having faith in them.
They need to repair their reputation in the community before trying to sell them on a new generation.
The only way a closed PC makes sense at all, is because they are completely shutting down shop in terms of consoles and they want to give their hardcore base a place to go so their game library doesn't evaporate...to begin transitioning them to PC, but again (depending on the price) I could just see them building a PC instead.
So it still doesn't make sense, in the end.
Just my two cents.
We need lawgaf to explain if Vc for pc breaks breaks any console contracts?
I don't understand the Steam integration and how that would benefit Xbox. It would destroy their XBL revenue (which is basically all profit), unless they're are planning on needing XBL to access online on this device.
Hmm Zen4 I guess
Yea the licenses is the main issue Xbox would have issues with in moving users from Xbox to PC. They can do it for their games but they need 3rd party approval for the rest.
Yep probably. I could go higher too.
Not sure what they would deem acceptable sales figures wise but 10 million might be ambitious
I think the ability to play Steam games from a console could be a very solid draw for historically console only crowds (would have my attention at least). I think it could be attractive to historically PC only crowds too if the price was below what a PC would cost relative to the bells and whistles. Not sure the Steam access will be very compelling if a GP sub is required to play multiplayer Steam games though, especially for traditionally only PC people.
The benefit is grabbing a larger slice of that console pie. Steam/PC is the best of all worlds. First party Sony games (albeit years later) and PC exclusives like Lethal Company.
I agree with all of that.
Only way this makes sense is the fusion of msft games everywhere and dwindling marketshare = another acquisition if the rumors of new Xbox store being platform neutral; my theory based on satay comment after actibliz.
That's fair. I just don't see how Steam integration benefits MS.
Yeah I don't know it will ever work and likely would fail but that makes it the most Xbox thing to try
Xbox hadn't been credible competition for years.
Think of it like Amazon. When you search for a product on Amazon, Amazon pushes their own products first. They are the top results. And people just go with that usually.
Another company to replace them
nobody has any interest in that.
Xbox isn't making a comeback. Not when MS told them they had to make a profit at any cost. Xbox burned through the warchest and now there is no more way out.Another company to replace them
The only Xbox can come back is if they hit hard with a reasonable priced, high powered hardware, a year before PS6 hits. Same as they did with the 360 and PS3.
Xbox hasnt offered any competition in years, because their offerings have been extremely mediocre. Their console however isnt.
If Sony can keep up their first place, we will see even less innovation in the gaming space, in games especially. Their prices will rise even further, Arrogant Sony has zero shame.
