Phillip Wesley Spencer The 3rd: "Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 are too similar"..."I want us to innovate and make hardware the differentiator."

I just realized that Phil Spencer The 3rd is abbreviated as PS3. Hmmm.

Anyway, I do agree and wish consoles to be different from being just a simplified PC Jr...
But what he says, and what he does are too different tangent - and with the industry trend going all ubiquitous omni presence, I have very little hope anything will change soon, not even on next gen.
 
He's totally pushing for a portable system and then as usual, he'll realize too fucking late what a mistake that was because if they couldn't beat Sony with Xbone consoles, they have absolutely no chance against Nintendo Switch + Steam Deck
 
I am so tired of the word "innovation" in the hardware market. No one is innovating in any meaningful, significant way. It all ends up as a gimmick. We've heard this word since the Xbox 360 generation and Xbox and Microsoft are the worst abusers of it since that time. Where is your Kinect TV TV TV NFL SPORTS TV TV COD COD TV SPORTS COD NFL now? You are smart to move your brand to a more digital space and availability across platforms, but that's been a necessity since you totally mucked up what you had in the market lead with the Xbox 360. Again, this is all because people who were passionate about making video games got the boot in favor of corporate suits and investors who have bastardized video games into big business for greed.

Focus on great software that is fun and feature-complete on release.
Focus on video games first and profits second. Yes you are a business, but nickel and diming customers isn't cool. Stop catering to the whales and investors to line your pockets. You can still make money and deliver great games at reasonable prices. VR, cameras, motion controls, handhelds, are all gimmicks that will not "innovate" anything. Hardware innovation involves better performance and memory out of the box. Software is what should differentiate your console, not shitty UI that takes backwards steps every generation or mangling the online experience.

And I will offer my rebuttal for the "B-b-but Nintendo innovates!" crowd here and now.

-They launched 3 years earlier than PS5/XSX and at $300 if you want to use console sales as a metric.
-The console is weaker than last gen consoles despite Nintendo fans always wanting to champion their belief that Nintendo is always "next gen." Rumors of Switch 2 running like an XBS tells us what we need to know about Nintendo, hardware, and "innovation."
-They are not doing anything they haven't done before. Switch simply perfected what the Wii and WiiU attempted. Being a hybrid will fit the basic definition of innovation to degrees, but we've since seen Steam Deck prove that good handheld gaming isn't innovative anymore.
-Nonsense like LABO was quickly and correctly put to bed. The market does not want that gimmick nonsense.
-You're playing the same tired franchises with slightly better graphics.
-You're paying again to play the same old games again in the same old franchises. Again. Nintendo nickels and dimes you every generation to play the Original Zelda and SMB games. It is quite frankly embarrassing and disgusting.
-You have no real online infrastructure of note.

They made a nice handheld that lets you play the same old games on your TV, too. Sure, the experience is seamless but all they did was combine what they were already doing. That ship has sailed so the next iteration will be advancing the concept instead of doing anything new with it.

TLDR: Fun and complete software will carry you to success if you let it. Hardware "innovation" is just buzz for clueless non-gamer investors to line your pockets so you can try to sniff out the next fad. Ultimately the gimmicks you sell your hardware on are not going to innovate anything.
 
gokurho said:
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Xbox CEO Phil Spencer says Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 are too similar — "I want us to innovate and make hardware the differentiator."

In a new interview, Xbox lead Phil Spencer discussed the Xbox Series S, and why Microsoft thinks hardware innovation will be the thing that makes you buy the next Xbox.
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I just hope the Sony handheld isnt their next gen consoles. I hope it's the the PS6 series S edition. Because otherwise microsoft fucked. Nobody is gonna buy a handheld next gen Xbox when they can buy the playstation one.
 
Halo Infinite 2 is a guarantee, gears 6 is #2, and the other exclusives will follow (forza, fable etc.) who has the best hardware? Sony, series x is good. The other factor for Microsoft is innovation isn't floating around in the back of their heads like during the One/Kinect era.
 
"We want our hardware to win"

His minions on social media the past few years

"Comparing consoles is toxic console war stuff"

This guy has been in that senior position too long. From an individual fan perspective, I've more than had enough of him and his groupies in the community.

What is so bad about wanting something you're a fan of to be great and call out things that are bullshit? Shouldn't that be a good thing??
 
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I agree 100%. They are basically exactly the same. AMC SoC with varying degrees of clocks and customizations for each.

They are way too similar.
 
Microsoft desperately wants to tackle Sony all the time, but they always come back to Nintendo. I find that to be quite interesting.
 
T-0800 said:
I saw someone last week that is taking ozempic and it has aged them 20 years. I didn't think it was the same person. Why people take a drug to lose weight when they could just stop stuffing food in their mouth I'll never know.
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Ghrelin (hunger hormone) is out of whack according to my layman's understanding of it.
 
I would love to see them offer capability to actually play Xbox OG, 360 and Xbone games on PC. Make that include disk versions (download from MS after disk check) for a cherry on top.

Go back and dust off the BC program again and bring us sone BC Xbox arcade games!

Now, that would be innovative and I will even pay for a GamePass (after finding some deals 😉).
 
T-0800 said:
I saw someone last week that is taking ozempic and it has aged them 20 years. I didn't think it was the same person. Why people take a drug to lose weight when they could just stop stuffing food in their mouth I'll never know.
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Because people are different, have different body metabolism, environmental factors and willpower.

Now what people should do on the new GLP drugs is eat more protein and do weight lifting, but that's another topic.
 
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When he's talking about needing to differentiate hardware where graphics aren't the benchmark I think he's kinda right. Graphics are so advanced that the overwhelming majority of people don't care anymore. I've never seen a real person complain about the resolution, textures, lighting, etc. on a Switch game.

That being said, it's so fucking crazy that he talks about handheld PC's, the Switch, and other battery-powered devices and his interpretation of that is there's a market for lower-spec gaming devices and so he decides to create the Series S. No dude, it's evidence of a market for handhelds how can you not see that. Holy shit man 😂.
 
nowhat said:
Not unlike people, but unlike LLMs, people are more apt at recognizing their mistakes and correcting them later on.

The whole current AI fad is just that, a fad. I think it is evident given how much NVidia stock has tanked since there became a possibility that perhaps we don't need so many GPUs for the same fluff.
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If the output is incorrect based on what you observed. Follow up with another prompt. Just like a human learns from being corrected.

Additionally, Deepseek's model scales with more GPUs. So yes, youre going to need many GPUs if you want responses comparable to something like GPT o4.
 
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When he's talking about needing to differentiate hardware where graphics aren't the benchmark I think he's kinda right. Graphics are so advanced that the overwhelming majority of people don't care anymore. I've never seen a real person complain about the resolution, textures, lighting, etc. on a Switch game.
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Nintendo has desensitized its fanbase to visual mediocrity.
 
StereoVsn said:
I would love to see them offer capability to actually play Xbox OG, 360 and Xbone games on PC. Make that include disk versions (download from MS after disk check) for a cherry on top.

Go back and dust off the BC program again and bring us sone BC Xbox arcade games!

Now, that would be innovative and I will even pay for a GamePass (after finding some deals 😉).
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if they want to go back to backwards compatibility, then they have to do it properly this time.

now that the dreadful Jaguar CPUs of last gen consoles aren't a limiting factor anymore, they could easily work on a proper Emulator for og Xbox and Xbox 360 games, and offer proper and full backwards compatibility without any downloads or modified games needed.

and proof of that is Xenia's UWP port, that already runs really well even tho it can't even fully use the hardware of the system due to the limitations of UWP apps and the Dev Mode.
 
Lol i gotta be honest. I cant help but find it overkill how hateful people are about this company. On a level i get it but i also cant understand the level of vitriol despite their shortcomings. To preface im an owner of every platform. Im 33 and possess no fanboyism at this age. I am a fan and have wonderful memories of all the console manufacturers. I enjoy my Series X and it is without question a Game Pass machine but i find nothing wrong with that fact especially since with ultimate i get to play their first party content day 1 along with everything else and its a great value overall. Truly.

BUT i understand the frustration with the company. Just a sad first party showing for the entire last generation and for a large part of this one. Unacceptable. Ill prepared. BUT they clearly have turned a corner and were starting to see a steady pipeline of first party content and for me personally , besides Redfall , ive enjoyed all of it. And on paper at least 2025 looks to be a great year for them also as a publishing studio. So i guess my question is , despite all their fcuk up's , are we all as im assuming fairly grown people so upset at them that we arent willing to give them a chance at a redemption arc ?

If hypothetically they create a great product for their next generation console are we so upset that we will scoff at it no matter what ? Trust me i get it PS has had some run with their first party content for quite a bit now but do we want them to not have any direct competition ? Personally i root for a company who clearly is all in on gaming citing their investments in the space and the financial wherewithal to create something amazing if they choose to.

Point being its good to have them in the industry in my opinion. I have to imagine if they are actually releasing a next generation console they must have incentives in mind for people to actually buy in so that aspect alone has me very interested. R&D manufacturing etc. is an expensive proposition so i cant imagine they dont intend to sell as many units as possible so to give people no reason to differentiate it from the competition seems very unlikely and has me intrigued considering theyve clearly turned a corner from an output perspective.

I could go on about what theyve announced but them seemingly having learned their lesson with Halo at least from an engine standpoint because i didnt realize how significant an impact Slipstream was having using 20 year old assets so while all these things dont necessarily add up to a quality Halo i at least feel optimistic enough to be excited. With all that being said a quality Halo is pivotal. No excuses but if they deliver on that along with the other stuff and put out a new console that is powerful and actually innovates then i have no problem keeping Xbox in my set up.
 
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It took him this long to figure this out?

Phil Spencer is a cancer on the Xbox business and he should have been fired a long time ago. Both he and his team of execs at Xbox are collectively fucking clueless.
 
He should never have kneecapped themselves with the Series S. I'll never understand their reasoning. It's like a small Don Mattrick kind of blunder where they're unwilling to say: Yeah ok we'll stop supporting this, and we'll do trade ins, or even refunds if you have the receipt sorry. Our bad.
 
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