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Xbox One sells one million+ (sell through to consumers) in all territories worldwide
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LiveFromKyoto
Member
Stop antagonizing people.
But has anyone had as much negative press leading up to launch as Microsoft with the Xbone? Used games and always online 180 aside.... It's weaker than PS4 and $100 more expensive.
Surprised it's sold as well as it did considering the circumstances. Good for them.
Timezones. How do they work?
...???
Okay?
How does that negate the fact that it hasn't been a full day in any part of North America?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Thrilled to see it doing well. Makes all the Nintendo fans with their "the end is nigh" posters look kind of silly.
McHuj
Member
Did anyone notice that there are thousands of Xbone's on eBay? And the majority with zero bids. And a few hundred for 99 cents too. And even those are having trouble getting bids.
I placed a bid on one, will see if I can score it for under 499
Did anyone notice that there are thousands of Xbone's on eBay? And the majority with zero bids. And a few hundred for 99 cents too. And even those are having trouble getting bids.
9 days left, i wouldnt bid on it yet either.
Then what would be considered "healthy" for these systems? 10 million LTD by end of 2014? 15 million?
Yeah I guess it is reasonable to assume these early numbers were front loaded by starved hardcore gamers, and probably will quickly lose this momentum eventually, but there is a distinction between huge success and the collapse of the console market. This kind of talk won't be of importance for a long time because discussion at this point in time would just be an example of fallacy of the beard.
Lmao @ that buy it now price. Who the hell would pay 1500 when they can find it elsewhere.
Did anyone notice that there are thousands of Xbone's on eBay? And the majority with zero bids. And a few hundred for 99 cents too. And even those are having trouble getting bids.
9 days left man, only scrubs bid before 2sec left
Subv3rsi0n
Member
I'm not interested in an Xbox One, but this is an absurdly flawed comparison.
If the market as a whole were collapsing you wouldn't see the sales or hype. Blame Nintendo fanboy journalism because their shit wii u tanked so they want to equate that with people not buying games anymore.
vikingvessel
Member
Xbox has announced 1 million consoles sold through worldwide in 24 hours. Wouldn't the initial hype be based on the first twenty-four that began before NA? The first twenty-four in NA exceeds the first twenty-four overall.
I'm actually kind of honestly impressed that they got a million out at launch with all of the territories they're shipping in versus what Sony on day 1, especially with all of the yield issue rumors. Kind of hard to make comparisons with the regional launch and timing differences between the two systems unless Sony puts out numbers next week in Europe that are either really really high or really really low.
My takeaway from all of this is the poor Wii U lol
My takeaway from all of this is the poor Wii U lol
I'm not saying console gaming is in trouble or that I hope it is in trouble. I'm just saying this doesn't prove it isn't in trouble. The fact that the Wii U faceplanted means even if the PS4 and XB1 sell 120 million units each-- so that's a 50% improvement over where both of them are now-- the industry would contract. That's a little scary.
That there is pent up hardcore gamer demand...well, you know. These sales need to be sustained over long periods of time, but more importantly, software sales will need to massively improve over this gen because the Wii U is not going to sell squat for third parties.
The problem with your logic is your basing a faulty products failure on two other products. The wii had problems going into this generation because it wasn't next gen and had much market confusion. You still have people who buy wii u games for their wii. In terms of software sales, have you not seem the latest npd? They are up.
Randolph Freelander
Member
This holiday, the one with the biggest supply sells the most. This is a launch period, both of these systems would sell every unit shipped even if there were nothing at all to play on them except PC solitaire. People will not be choosing between these two systems side by side because there will be none to buy. PS4 at least appears to be winning the shipment battle early, and that's not entirely unimportant because it does at least build more word of mouth, but that word of mouth will mean nothing for sales this year.
Or put another way -- if you can walk into a Best Buy in mid-December and see stacks of these things, one (or both) of them is a bust. At that point, it actually would be about demand -- the lack thereof. I'm stipulating that demand is strong enough for each machine, that it outstrips supply, and therefore does not become a factor until after the holiday when units actually will sit in stores for longer than a few hours. Neither one of these is the Wii U.
Alpolio
Member
From the look of the size of the ebay listings, a large chunk of those 1 million sales were mostly re-sellers. I think that it''s safe to say that there will be a ton of Xbone returns in the next few weeks.
It more shows that going first isn't always an advantage, because Sony was going to do the exact same thing until the Xbone backlash.
I'll be more interested to see total sales for both after December. Less constriction due to supply chains and more reflective of what consumers really want to buy.
Yeah still available in the OC at many stores as of right now. Ms did a good job of stocking the stores.
Not much if any profit to be made on the local Craig's list.
Cloud Strife
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Version 3.0
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You're basing this on full-gen hardware sales. Considering how fast the Wii went from the hottest thing ever to dead last and forgotten, there are probably a significant number of Wii owners who "upgraded" to a PS3 or 360, and plenty more - of all 3 consoles - who don't still use them.
The industry would only "contract" if the total number of active users were to decline, and that's probably already happened. The PS4/XB1 will probably reverse that trend.
Stop just stop.
It's mostly guys who had pre ordered it and thought they could turn a insane profit, sadly they can't. It's much much much harder to find a ps4 right now then a xbox one,
yeah im not sure how many ps4s were made but my best buy has been out of stock since launch. was at best buy before they opened and didnt see anyone waiting. lots of xbox ones though. ms supplied pretty good.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Doesn't part of the contract fall on Nintendo's head? And I know you'll say "those games should pick up a different console," but I'm personally wondering if there are any figures of multiple console owners. It seems like that number would at least be several million, and those numbers don't count as a totally of "console gamers". I would optimistically hope for 200million after 8 years.
Also, you have to remember Nintendo will most likely be launching a new system in the middle of this 'generation', and that will count towards the console total. This picture isn't so cut and dry.
LowEndTorque
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Abandapart82
Member
And even ps4's are having a hard time turning a profit. At least a big profit that is.
Alpolio
Member
There's not very many people reselling their PS4. I already checked.
Yes I know. I just find it funny that people somehow don't realize that the Xbox One hasn't been out for more than a day in North America.
"This must mean that the Xbox One had half the number of PS4 day one sales in North America!"
It's just funny considering the fact that these stats use NA sales from earlier in the day. People saying "half the sales" without realizing that these stats could be based on 12 hours after NA Midnight launch.. you know.. half a day.
500k in 12 hours is 1 million in a day in terms of rate. Xbox One will probably have neck and neck one-day-NA sales vs. the PS4.
I also see them pushing a new gem system in about 3 years time when the hardware gets cheaper.
There are laws about this sort of thing...at least on the shareholder side.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Truth is even if that does happen who does it really hurt other than Nintendo .
Certain companies were not putting any games on Wii in the first place so those extra 100 million user never matter to them even if the majority does not come back .
Growth for the console market not going to come from the 3 main regions but from other places like Brazil , China ,India etc etc and that is where MS and Sony have to target .
But is the Wii U tanking really hurting the overall industry or just Nintendo? Outside of a few third party games on the Wii, all of last gens best selling 3rd party games performed their best on PS3/360.
The audience of the Wii was an anomaly and one that may not return, but that mostly hurts Nintendo rather than the overall industry. I just don't think we can accurately gauge the current health of the industry based on Nintendo's successes and failures given the out of control changes in their marketshare recently. Now if we have reason to believe the PS3/360 audience isn't coming back... that is scary.
They aren't, but if you like xbox it shouldn't matter.
zorlaczerohero
Banned
Yeah, look at the EBgames website, nearly every store in Sydney comes up on the "in stock" list. Phoned up my local one just to be sure and they definitely have it available.
Odd that Gamestop in the US and UK list it as sold out but we seem to have plenty here. Surely they'd have a fair idea of the required distribution.
Deuterium
Member
This is a ridiculous simplification and "taken out of context" assertion. I am certain Penello/Microsoft views the E.U. as every other American multinational corporation...which is to say, in terms of market/trade demographics, sales and statistics, the countries comprising the E.U. are (rightfully) considered a single, monolithic trading block.
It is not the USA's fault that the majority of Countries on the European continent made the decision to adopt a single, common currency.
Again with this? Where's proof? You really think that Sony would risk jeopardizing PS4's sales, knowing that they'll need as many sales for it as they can get?
Deuterium
Member
This is a ridiculous simplification and "taken out of context" assertion. I am certain Penello/Microsoft views the E.U. as every other American multinational corporation...which is to say, in terms of market/trade demographics, sales and statistics, the countries comprising the E.U. are (rightfully) considered a single, monolithic trading block.
It is not the USA's fault that the majority of Countries on the European continent made the decision to adopt a single, common currency...and thereby effectively linking their individual economies.
Dragonborn
Member
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. MS' number is probably based on their estimation which should be pretty accurate based on their shipment, pre-order and retailer info. Or do you seriously think MS will sell 1 million in just NA? If they had a shot at that, even remotely close, they would have waited to announce that instead.
The proof is if MS did it, obviously Sony was too.../s
Im tempted to sell mine, someone is already willing to pay 900bucks in my country. lol