Come off it, the Forza games are the most framerate locked AAA titles there is.
I've played every single Forza to death, and I can't ever remember getting frame drops on one other than when I hit lag online.
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I've played every single Forza to death, and I can't ever remember getting frame drops on one other than when I hit lag online.
Nice. Sure would be up for some Dark Souls love. A man can dream.
Karspankey
Banned
What does the PS4 Pro average out at? 40fps? It may certainly get closer to 60fps, but I can't imagine them getting it locked.
Caayn
Member
Averages around 45fps according to DF.
I'm still so happy that The Witcher 3 is getting a patch. I honestly don't know why I had a gut feeling that it would happen, maybe because of the marketing deal they had and their relationship, but I just felt it would be announced at E3. And it happened.
I don't mind the wait to play either, I have the 360 version of The Witcher 2 waiting for me to play first either way. Won The Witcher 3 digitally at launch, so before I even bought the XB1S and bought the Expansion Pass with some credit I won. So that universe is just waiting for me to explore.
And that doesn't count all of the other games getting enhancements that I'm happy for as well, like Gears 4. The last game I'm waiting on confirmation for is Overwatch. Hope they crank that one up all the way, it already looks great on XB1S as is already too.
I don't mind the wait to play either, I have the 360 version of The Witcher 2 waiting for me to play first either way. Won The Witcher 3 digitally at launch, so before I even bought the XB1S and bought the Expansion Pass with some credit I won. So that universe is just waiting for me to explore.
And that doesn't count all of the other games getting enhancements that I'm happy for as well, like Gears 4. The last game I'm waiting on confirmation for is Overwatch. Hope they crank that one up all the way, it already looks great on XB1S as is already too.
So what? 50-55fps then?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I think I heard someone in square booth said it was locked 60, but I may be remembering wrong. I remember something being said along those lines, however. Don't think I was hearing things cause one of the guys I was with also repeated the same thing and was talking about it with some other people about what was said over there.
That would be something at least. Combined with better iq it would be quite an upgrade.
Sorry man, you said the same thing about Zen being in Scorpio. I think it's time to stop telling us what you overheard at e3 unless you were told something directly.
thelastword
Banned
I don't think it will be locked 60fps, it looks to be CPU bound in quite a few scenarios..
Samurai G0SU
Member
I'm gonna be tempted to buy so many games I haven't gotten yet that have xhannced updates.lol
SenjutsuSage
Banned
That was my own speculation based on the impressions I was getting based on questions I specifically asked, and how serious they seemed to be taking all discussions and speculations on Zen. It was me trying to read their reactions and their receptiveness to the Zen question. I read wrong, and I assumed that there was a very good chance it was in there. I don't mind being wrong.
And, obviously, they weren't going to say anything to convince me and others otherwise, as a big part of things like that is to let people's imagination run wild as to what the new system could be packing.
This is a little different, however. I was told directly by someone in the square booth that it would be a locked 60. You don't have to take my word as law, but that's what I heard.
Perhaps you're right. Will see.
"Jez ✖‏ @JezCorden
My info re: Star Wars: Battlefront II being 4K60 on Xbox One X prob won't pan out, sorry for setting expectations, targets aren't locked in."
"Jez ✖‏ @JezCorden
Gonna wait til I get hard info in the future, like I did with the Scorpio stuff, rather than rely on word of mouth. #learning"
My info re: Star Wars: Battlefront II being 4K60 on Xbox One X prob won't pan out, sorry for setting expectations, targets aren't locked in."
"Jez ✖‏ @JezCorden
Gonna wait til I get hard info in the future, like I did with the Scorpio stuff, rather than rely on word of mouth. #learning"
Fucking Jaguar, what a nuisance that architecture has been.
I wonder why and what resolution it will settle on.
No matter what the final target is, it will have better performance, resolution, and bells and whistles than the PS4 Pro version most likely.
I don't think people should get too hung up on hitting certain hard targets like 4k60fps or whatnot.
To me the most important thing is that it looks good and performs well (i.e. looks beautiful and has rock solid frame rate).
So if they decide they want to hit a certain visual fidelity and they go with 1440p checkerboarded up to 4k with 60fps, and it turns out to be a locked 60fps with great bells and whistles, so be it.
Phil Spencer has already stated that it is 100% up to the developers how they choose to use Xbox One X's power - they won't mandate a type of resolution.
Think 4K is possible. Just dynamic. I mean Battlefront is no Battlefield. Less players overall and way less destruction. So less CPU intensive.
Just want a fully locked Forza style 60fps tho.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
I have yet to hear anything on those two, but they're on the top of my list. Considering there is already a Pro patch for both, though, I think it isn't far-fetched to expect one.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Haven't heard anything, but the vanilla FPS in Andromeda is terrible. The new console will at least help it maintain 30 FPS.
My thoughts as well. It's going to look stunning!
I mean Forza 7 comes out before the X actually comes out. It'll be ready day one for the X though.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Probably not because of Jaguar since the game is supposed to run at 60 fps on all platforms. More a case of not enough GPU power to go from 720p to native 4K. Which makes sense, since according to Microsoft it can bring games running at 900p upwards to native 4K.
Assuming Battlefront 2 is a locked 60fps like the first one was, it's unlikely that the CPU is the issue here. Now if it doesn't hold a 60fps as well as the first game, then yeah we can point the finger at the CPU most likely being the cause.
I'd be surprised if they didn't go with CBR with both the X and Pro versions of this game. It's a feature of the frostbite engine.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I'm betting on 1800p for XBX and 1440p on Pro
Im actually quite fine with it being sub-native 4K, but if and only if theyre using higher graphical presets than the Pro. As of right now it seems the Xbox One X is just a more expensive Pro when it comes to third party games.
Ill wait for DF analysis at release to make final judgement, though.
gonna watch this a bit later.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...that-will-look-instantly-better-on-xbox-one-x
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...that-will-look-instantly-better-on-xbox-one-x
It is a difference of 7372800 pixels.
I believe 4K is 9x the amount of pixels from 720p isn't it? Xbox one X is only 4.61 more powerful than OG Xbox One.
Would be nice to get footage of that.
MilkyJoe
Member
So are we likely to see 1080p output options with all the bells and whistles turned up, as well as 4k out with as much as they can add?
Link? Lol it seems I keep chasing you around with link requests?
Frostman
Member
I don't know if that's likely, the way it's worded makes it sound like it will be 4K with settings turned up, which is still absolutely fantastic.
This game would make for some interesting comparisons post launch.
Yeah, It really wouldn't make sense to have a 4k mode with graphical improvements over the base X1 version and still have a 1080p mode with some more minor improvements. The base X1 version is likely already running at 1080p/60fps. Running at 4k/60fps is already a great improvement to IQ and the overall look of a game.
It seems quite a bit of high profile game will be running at native 4k, I wonder if DF or NXGamer got a look at this game.
Assuming Fifa 18 gets the same treatment.
rewopsisnogard
Neo Member
I'm waiting for Cities:Skylines to support XBOX. I like this game from Youtube footage and gameplay videos, And I want to see it get pretty.
Sucks for list wars, but honestly, I think for the most part, gunning for native 4K when most users are on TVs several feet away is inefficient.
Gimme a nice checkerboard and up my settings, all day. The fact that the box is powerful enough, in theory , to push from native 1080p to native 4K without changing settings should means some sexy checkerboards with upped settings.
Liabe Brave
Member
Checkerboard rendering is not a type of upscaling. You don't "checkerboard up to" anything, you use CBR to render the game at a specific size.
Third party or not makes no difference: a more expensive, more powerful Pro is exactly what One X is. It's the same idea, but with better results. Not every game on Pro is native 4K, and neither will every One X game be. That doesn't mean the hardware or the developer is a failure.
couldnt say it better myself
Hawk269
Member
It is a fun game, but I agree with you, a Xbox One X patch would be great. If they could get it to 4k/30fps with improved shadows would be really make it look even better.
17 did as well. Wonder if they'll up the textures on XBX
I'm pretty sure it ran at 720p on XB1, so it makes sense that it couldn't hit 4K. That's a really large resolution boost.
It depends on why a game was 720p. The fox engine games for example could perhaps be in the end, the engine underperformed on Xbox One.