viveks86
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I'm leaning more towards them not giving a fuck. SDS is notorious for don't-give-a-fuckery.
List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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Physiognomonics
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Mandatory support means the game simply works. It doesn't mandate any improvements, you'll only get improvements from more available CUs (and bandwidth). It's like a boost mode with no (less) bugs. It was the same on PS4 Pro.
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FrankWza
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Not technical. They just didn't do it. They were already releasing better versions when they were making ps4 and xb1 and still are compared to switch and series s. Plus, Sony listed it as Pro enhanced and then removed it. In the faq they say it "runs smoothly"
As far as pc goes they know it will be cracked and once that happens with a game like this they won't see sales until they change the engine because it would just be easy to do roster updates and mods. There's a reason why PC hasn't had a big baseball release in over a decade. Konami just put psb on pc so we'll see how that goes.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, so GTA. Price drop isn’t coming anytime soon.
AC Shadows PS5 vs PS5 Pro
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Topher
Identifies as young
Nice. Did you take these shots? If so, can you do PS5 fidelity vs PS5 Pro performance?
They are not my captures
Topher
Identifies as young
Ah....ok.
saintjules
Gold Member
People are really waiting for GTA VI in order to get the Pro.
Has it even been mentioned/rumored on how GTA will potentially utilize the features of the Pro?
Has it even been mentioned/rumored on how GTA will potentially utilize the features of the Pro?
ShakenG
Member
We haven't even had news about how the base consoles will be utilised. Other than the trailers, that about all we have.
I haven't heard any rumours or seen anything mentioned about modes.
Honestly, im still expecting them to go all out on visuals and aim for 30fps.
They'll give us a 60fps patch about 10years after that
saintjules
Gold Member
Yeah I just find it odd that this is the game that will make people buy a Pro yet nothing was mentionrd on terms of support.We haven't even had news about how the base consoles will be utilised. Other than the trailers, that about all we have.
I haven't heard any rumours or seen anything mentioned about modes.
Honestly, im still expecting them to go all out on visuals and aim for 30fps.
They'll give us a 60fps patch about 10years after that
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ShakenG
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I think it's just how rockstar do it. They seem very old school in keeping things quiet till the last minute. They'll open the flood gates eventually.
Killer8
Member
Rise of the Ronin in graphics mode is an interesting experiment.
The worst visual flaw of the game for me, the LOD pop-in, does not see much if any improvement. However because the resolution of this mode is so much higher, it resolves a lot more distant detail even if the models remain unchanged. In terms of image quality I think it's one of the sharpest looking games i've seen. What the mode also appears to do is seriously bump up the ambient occlusion quality. There is a lot of distracting AO shimmering, particularly in buildings as well as boiling noise in grass shadows, which are substantially improved. Shadow quality is also bumped up, switching out a lot of hard shadows for soft shadows. This is most obvious on shadows cast from candles inside shrines.
It also looks like graphics mode improves distant terrain a lot. I can't tell if it's truly more terrain detail or more anisotropic filtering, or both. For example if you go to the edge of the map, there are hills which have a lot more detail which I don't think AF would affect since they are at an oblique angle. It almost looks like those detail textures you used to see in early 2000s PC games. Basically when you combine everything: the better AO, shadows, AF, texture detail, and dramatically better image quality, the small improvements add up to create a much better looking game - almost like what people were expecting. The downside is of course 30fps. That's if you use the (advisable) frame rate cap option, which feels unevenly paced. It feels like sacrilege to say about a Team Ninja game but: it's still pretty playable even at 30fps. Probably because the game is largely based around waiting for enemy attacks to parry. If you managed with 30fps in Sekiro back on PS4, you'll manage here.
Honestly the game looks so much better in graphics mode that i'm torn between going back to 60 or sticking with it. The fact you can leave the framerate uncapped is also potentially good news for PS6, if its raw power will allow Rise to reach 60fps with these visuals. When even 5090s are struggling with the game on PC, there is no perfect way to play and everyone will need to make some concessions depending on whether they value graphics versus framerate.
The worst visual flaw of the game for me, the LOD pop-in, does not see much if any improvement. However because the resolution of this mode is so much higher, it resolves a lot more distant detail even if the models remain unchanged. In terms of image quality I think it's one of the sharpest looking games i've seen. What the mode also appears to do is seriously bump up the ambient occlusion quality. There is a lot of distracting AO shimmering, particularly in buildings as well as boiling noise in grass shadows, which are substantially improved. Shadow quality is also bumped up, switching out a lot of hard shadows for soft shadows. This is most obvious on shadows cast from candles inside shrines.
It also looks like graphics mode improves distant terrain a lot. I can't tell if it's truly more terrain detail or more anisotropic filtering, or both. For example if you go to the edge of the map, there are hills which have a lot more detail which I don't think AF would affect since they are at an oblique angle. It almost looks like those detail textures you used to see in early 2000s PC games. Basically when you combine everything: the better AO, shadows, AF, texture detail, and dramatically better image quality, the small improvements add up to create a much better looking game - almost like what people were expecting. The downside is of course 30fps. That's if you use the (advisable) frame rate cap option, which feels unevenly paced. It feels like sacrilege to say about a Team Ninja game but: it's still pretty playable even at 30fps. Probably because the game is largely based around waiting for enemy attacks to parry. If you managed with 30fps in Sekiro back on PS4, you'll manage here.
Honestly the game looks so much better in graphics mode that i'm torn between going back to 60 or sticking with it. The fact you can leave the framerate uncapped is also potentially good news for PS6, if its raw power will allow Rise to reach 60fps with these visuals. When even 5090s are struggling with the game on PC, there is no perfect way to play and everyone will need to make some concessions depending on whether they value graphics versus framerate.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Zuzu
Member
The Pro getting RTGI in Performance mode looks like it’s going to be a big win for the Pro going by how much of a difference RTGI makes on the base PS5 in the Quality and Balanced modes.
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blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Seems to be lacking in resolution in performance mode but yeah nice they got in RTGI.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Added Chess Infinity
viveks86
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Yep. Came here to post that as wellIndiana Jones has the Pro Enhanced label. I think this might be the first time that it’s been officially confirmed to be getting Pro Enhanced?
HeisenbergFX4
Skitso
Member
What the fuck is that price?!Indiana Jones has the Pro Enhanced label. I think this might be the first time that it’s been officially confirmed to be getting Pro Enhanced?
Zuzu
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Don’t worry, it’s just the Australian price
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Skitso
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Haha, ok. Phew.
HeisenbergFX4
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Thank you for the tag, adding it nowYep. Came here to post that as well
HeisenbergFX4
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F1 25 has been announced today and is pro enhanced.
HeisenbergFX4
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Added Faaast Penguin
Guardian Monkey
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Did helldivers 2 ever get an actual ps pro patch or are they on just the change to fidelity and back to performance?
HeisenbergFX4
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Added Ghost of Yotei
"Featuring massive sightlines that let you look far across the environment, skies of twinkling stars and auroras, and vegetation that sways believably in the wind, Ghost of Yōtei has been built from the ground up for PlayStation 5 consoles, with enhanced performance and visuals on PlayStation 5 Pro."
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/ghost-of-yotei/
"Featuring massive sightlines that let you look far across the environment, skies of twinkling stars and auroras, and vegetation that sways believably in the wind, Ghost of Yōtei has been built from the ground up for PlayStation 5 consoles, with enhanced performance and visuals on PlayStation 5 Pro."
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/ghost-of-yotei/
LavitzSlambert
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Still gotta toggle the unofficial way. The game's codebase is so broken I don't think they'll ever be able to officially certify it as Pro Enhanced.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Well that’s disappointing to hear, thanks for the reply.
HeisenbergFX4
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Added this and MindseyeUndisputed has just received a large update which includes being Pro enhanced.
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10014002
HeisenbergFX4
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Added Oppidum
HeisenbergFX4
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Added Mandragora: Whispers of the Witch Tree
Astray
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Didn't play it myself yet, but judging by what I found through a quick search of this thread for "RE4" I found these replies:
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I don't understand this game having zero pro enhancements (or a PC version but that's a different can of worms)
FrankWza
Member
It's ridiculous. But, it does play better than the base and doesn't have the dread-lag that the others have. The 120hz mode is also the smoothest it's ever been, at least on my tv. But sds always does this and that's why they get so much criticism. They could have made a Pro mode for rtts, and single player modes if they thought it would bring a competitive advantage to make an actual 120fps version.
It’s a decent enhancement for the type of game it is
Console Quality and Performance
We did not want to make any compromises when defining the performance and quality target of the console versions, and we are happy to report that both Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 will run Mandragora in a smooth and stable way.Xbox Series X and the base PlayStation®5 will target native 1800p resolution at 60 frames per second. Xbox Series S targets native 1080p resolution, also at 60 frames per second.
Utilizing the extra GPU power of the PlayStation®5 Pro, players will have the ability to choose between two graphic modes: Quality Pro and Performance Pro. Quality Pro will target a native 4K resolution while maintaining stable 60 frames per second, while Performance Pro mode is aiming for 120 frames per second at a native 1440p target resolution. To enable Performance Pro mode, you will need a compatible display.
We hope to see you (in a frame-rate stable fashion) on April 17!
Astray
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New AC Shadows patch drops tomorrow, includes PSSR.
www.ubisoft.com
AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Release Notes
Title update 1.0.2 will be deployed on all supported platforms tomorrow, April 8, 2025.
www.ubisoft.com
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
OH SHIT.New AC Shadows patch drops tomorrow, includes PSSR.
AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Release Notes
Title update 1.0.2 will be deployed on all supported platforms tomorrow, April 8, 2025.
Good news.
So I will continue my playthrough tomorrow. It's been a week since I've played and I kinda wanted to get back in today.
I was playing in Quality mode but now sounds like PSSR balanced mode will be the way to go if it also got rt reflections
viveks86
Member
The fact that it is still a separate option that needs to be enabled suggests there is some tradeoff. Wonder what that will be...New AC Shadows patch drops tomorrow, includes PSSR.
AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Release Notes
Title update 1.0.2 will be deployed on all supported platforms tomorrow, April 8, 2025.
New AC Shadows patch drops tomorrow, includes PSSR.
AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Release Notes
Title update 1.0.2 will be deployed on all supported platforms tomorrow, April 8, 2025.
Excellent news, I'm playing it right now in balanced mode and I missed the ray traced reflections of the quality mode but 30fps feels too choppy in this game, I wonder if they have also fixed the forced 30fps in the hideout which wasn't intended.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Not necessarily, weren’t people looking for pssr and non pssr pro options?
Skifi28
Member
Wait, that was a bug?
Yes and I've just read the patch notes and it seems it has been fixed:
"Uncapped the Hideout to above 30 FPS in performance mode"
I guess/hope the balanced mode will stick to 40fps.