Zuzu
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It says on the website that it's just about having a compatible TV:
Here's the link: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/007-first-light/
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It says on the website that it's just about having a compatible TV:
Here's the link: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/007-first-light/
Bojji
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Looks like they treat is seriously, like ACS and F1 devs.
It says on the website that it's just about having a compatible TV:
Here's the link: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/007-first-light/
Thanks, probably requires 120hz and/or VRR for best experience.
Skifi28
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Interesting. Seeing how bad the framerate was at the presentation, I was wondering whether they'd be a 60fps mode at all.007 Pro enhancements:
Even the actual PSSR it's not bad at all. But only Dying Light 2 and AC Shadows use it properly. It's just most of the developers don't care to polish it.
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Zuzu
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Konami has just patched Metal Gear Solid Delta and underneath the patch notes they've said that they're looking into adding an option to select a preferred rendering mode on Pro in the future. I don't know what this means but I'm guessing it will either allow you to select between FSR or PSSR or perhaps it's a 30fps mode. Here's a screenshot from the section underneath the patch notes:
Link: https://www.konami.com/mg/mgs3r/news/us/en/update_113
Link: https://www.konami.com/mg/mgs3r/news/us/en/update_113
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viveks86
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It's all very confusing, to be honest. The stream began saying it was captured on PS5. The previewers who visited them were explicitly told the footage shown to them was from base PS5. But the high bitrate b-roll, which looks identical as far as i know, sent to the previewers literally says "captured on Ps5 pro", but runs at 30 fps with frame dips during the plane section, just like the stream. I don't know what is what anymore. May be the PS5 pro enhancements weren't actually in place for the recording and the framerate is just wonky because it is in-dev? They did warn the previewers that it was an old but stable build and performance is much better already. Don't know!
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FSR toggle?Konami has just patched Metal Gear Solid Delta and underneath the patch notes they've said that their looking into adding an option to select a preferred rendering mode on Pro in the future. I don't know what this means but I'm guessing it will either allow you to select between FSR or PSSR or perhaps it's a 30fps mode. Here's a screenshot from the section underneath the patch notes:
Link: https://www.konami.com/mg/mgs3r/news/us/en/update_113
They have to fix the damn PSSR, it's possible for the fuck sake. Thought I will appreciate 40 fps mode, better than nothing I guess.
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Bojji
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FSR toggle?
They have to fix the damn PSSR, it's possible for the fuck sake. Thought I will appreciate 40 fps mode, better than nothing I guess.
As a quick fix this is not bad, I doubt it's FSR - TSR more likely.
30, 60fps modes as well?
It uses FSR on console. Though if they opt for TSR I will be really curious to try. Seems with the last update PSSR is a bit improved from my perception.
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I think this means a Graphics Mode and a Performance Mode like on the base PS5.Konami has just patched Metal Gear Solid Delta and underneath the patch notes they've said that they're looking into adding an option to select a preferred rendering mode on Pro in the future. I don't know what this means but I'm guessing it will either allow you to select between FSR or PSSR or perhaps it's a 30fps mode. Here's a screenshot from the section underneath the patch notes:
Link: https://www.konami.com/mg/mgs3r/news/us/en/update_113
And lol, a bunch of stuff that should have been there on release, but better late than never I guess.
FUBARx89
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It's hit or miss, some games look great, some look like hot dog shit. RE4 PSSR is a crying shame. Sniper scopes are disgusting to use with the lines vibrating and breaking up and the dithering on plants. Everything else looks solid.
But it is better than the blury mess some games are on base IMO.
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Bojji
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I don't think RE4 uses PSSR. Only game with PSSR from this series is Village.
But video about this from DF is few months old so maybe it changed.
What you are talking here are CBR issues not PSSR. I suggest you to play RE4R at 120 fps. It's the only mode with the PSSR and honestly the IQ it's far better, not flawless, but the vegetation is definitely a lot better.
FSR toggle?
They have to fix the damn PSSR, it's possible for the fuck sake. Thought I will appreciate 40 fps mode, better than nothing I guess.
hope this is the FSR4 PS5 debut game.... possible you know
I can confirm PSSR it's definitely improved with the last patch. I used Hell is us demo as a sample to compare, there is a very apparent shadow wobbling effects in the foliage of the trees typical with the PSSR and UE5. MGSDelta compared to it shows some shimmering but the wobbling effects it's more subtle and you have to watch carefully the vegetation to notice somehow, if I can say. Unfortunately it's still present a strange noisy effect in the long distance on the vegetation enlighted, similar to the film grain filter, probably it's a Lumen artifact not denoised properly with PSSR.
Nothing new about the fps, is still the same, the patch did practically nothing; disabling VRR helps to make it less annoying , but perfomance still sucks.
I don't get it why this game runs so badly on pro, totally unexplainable to me. Hope a 40 fps mode is incoming.
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omegasc
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Comparing FSR and PSSR in Path of Exile 2 you can see PSSR is a lot better. Turn off DRS with PSSR. FSR hides lots of thin details and blurs skills like Arctic Armor (sorc). I've been playing on the Performance profile, it's a great IQ and good frame rate, with dips on busy screens with lots of enemies and effects.
What makes PSSR look bad most of the time are ray tracing reflections. Maybe it takes too much frame time to adapt to the engines and denoise it properly, especially when ray tracing uses really low res.
What makes PSSR look bad most of the time are ray tracing reflections. Maybe it takes too much frame time to adapt to the engines and denoise it properly, especially when ray tracing uses really low res.
Mr Moose
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I think one mode uses it in 4, if I am reading it correctly.
Five Resident Evil games tested on PS5 Pro - and the upgrades are substantial
The Digital Foundry review of five Resident Evil games running on PS5 Pro, including RE 7, RE2 and RE3 remakes, RE Village and the RE 4 remake with Tom Morgan.
www.eurogamer.net
Update 14/12/24: There is a difference in resolution while using the 120Hz mode in Resident Evil 4 Remake on PS5 Pro - and we can confirm that this runs at 1536x864, with a PSSR upscale to 4K (or 40% scale of the 4K reconstructed target). So long as 120Hz selected it switches to this alternate rendering mode, though 60Hz continues to use base PS5's 4K checkerboard method in this game.
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FUBARx89
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It does. There was a whole discussion about this when RE4 got a pro update. I eyeballed the HFR mode as having PSSR. Then it was backed up by DF after mistakenly being said it was still CB.
It really isn't. It's PSSR issues on HFR mode. Go play Seperate ways. (EDIT) C2 after clearing the valley on the way to the village where you speak to wesker, look at the vegetation on the way, it pops and fizzles likely due to PSSR having trouble with ambient occlusion. Really noticeable there. Aim any sniper scope and it fizzles. Look at a wall with the scope, it's that bad it makes it look like the wall is texture warbling like on the PS1.
But yes. Other than that. It does look cleaner.
Edit - Even Stellar Blade has issues with PSSR and that's always been championed as a very strong PS5 Pro patch. Granted this is right at the end of the game near enough. But pop and fizzle. RE4 is nowhere near as bad. But still.
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Bojji
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I think one mode uses it in 4, if I am reading it correctly.
Looks like the article was updated after the video launched, because it doesn't mention it, but below the video there's an "update":Five Resident Evil games tested on PS5 Pro - and the upgrades are substantial
The Digital Foundry review of five Resident Evil games running on PS5 Pro, including RE 7, RE2 and RE3 remakes, RE Village and the RE 4 remake with Tom Morgan.
Update 14/12/24: There is a difference in resolution while using the 120Hz mode in Resident Evil 4 Remake on PS5 Pro - and we can confirm that this runs at 1536x864, with a PSSR upscale to 4K (or 40% scale of the 4K reconstructed target). So long as 120Hz selected it switches to this alternate rendering mode, though 60Hz continues to use base PS5's 4K checkerboard method in this game.
It does. There was a whole discussion about this when RE4 got a pro update. I eyeballed the HFR mode as having PSSR. Then it was backed up by DF after mistakenly being said it was still CB.
It really isn't. It's PSSR issues on HFR mode. Go play Seperate ways. (EDIT) C2 after clearing the valley on the way to the village where you speak to wesker, look at the vegetation on the way, it pops and fizzles likely due to PSSR having trouble with ambient occlusion. Really noticeable there. Aim any sniper scope and it fizzles. Look at a wall with the scope, it's that bad it makes it look like the wall is texture warbling like on the PS1.
But yes. Other than that. It does look cleaner.
Edit - Even Stellar Blade has issues with PSSR and that's always been championed as a very strong PS5 Pro patch. Granted this is right at the end of the game near enough. But pop and fizzle. RE4 is nowhere near as bad. But still.
Interesting, thanks for the info.
Ambient occlusion, RTAO and RTGI (+lumen) are the biggest weakness of current version of PSSR. For some reason some developers (Wukong, ACS) were able to solve most of those issues, I wonder how?
Spukc
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Is there a 40fps mode?FSR toggle?
They have to fix the damn PSSR, it's possible for the fuck sake. Thought I will appreciate 40 fps mode, better than nothing I guess.
Probably because they use native resolution for such effects and not the PSSR upscaler. From what I knew Nvidia DLSS automatically fixed such issues runs natively such effects, using some protocols instructions or whatever it is if I have understood correctly. PSSR I guess doesn't working such instructions automatically leaving the whole work to the developers.
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It does. There was a whole discussion about this when RE4 got a pro update. I eyeballed the HFR mode as having PSSR. Then it was backed up by DF after mistakenly being said it was still CB.
It really isn't. It's PSSR issues on HFR mode. Go play Seperate ways. (EDIT) C2 after clearing the valley on the way to the village where you speak to wesker, look at the vegetation on the way, it pops and fizzles likely due to PSSR having trouble with ambient occlusion. Really noticeable there. Aim any sniper scope and it fizzles. Look at a wall with the scope, it's that bad it makes it look like the wall is texture warbling like on the PS1.
But yes. Other than that. It does look cleaner.
Edit - Even Stellar Blade has issues with PSSR and that's always been championed as a very strong PS5 Pro patch. Granted this is right at the end of the game near enough. But pop and fizzle. RE4 is nowhere near as bad. But still.
In all honesty I found CBR issues a lot more annoying, the vegetation is all blurred, shimmered and incomplete with the grass completely broken to the noise thinking it runs at 1920x2160p it's almost hilarious. PSSR hasn't such issue at 880p and some flaws are surely more excusable from such low resolution.
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This is not sense. PSSR scale the full frame from lower resolution to 4k. Simply wukon probably is a game with less noise. PSSR problems it's simply because the AI model don't know what to do with the image noise produced by some current engines such as UE5 or some lower resolution shadows. DLSS for example it's trained to denoise the image first, but that can do make the final frame blurrier
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It not a nonsense. It's how nvidia prevent such issue with DLSS. Notoriously such graphic effects runs around at 1/4 or 1/2 of native resolution of the whole buffer; upscaling/reconstruct means even going from 1/8 of native resolution or even lower causing broken artifacts because the upscaler can reach its limits, it's not black magic. They have to come back at least to a 1/4 of resolution of the "real" buffer to make the graphic effect work decently.
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Ashamam
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Yeah its night and day. Its a shame Balanced tanks framerates at times because it looks fantastic, Performance is noticable softer. But both look a lot better than FSR or NIS.
cripterion
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Borderlands 4 : not a single fucking footage of the PS5 version and the game page doesn't even say enhanced for pro, what gives?
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Because people are not ready yet.
How fucking insane it will look on the pro.
Other games had this too
Bojji
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It's UE5, don't expect anything great.
cripterion
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People are saying in the previews it has performance issues on PC and there's the only version that was shown, we know switch 3 is a disaster and they happily letting you preload 129$ version but we have no idea how the game runs or looks...
Borderlands 3 ran like shit by the way.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Bl3 ran crap with some dumb gfx shit turned on that made 0 diffrence
It's not BL3 running at 120fps on PS5 and XSX?