Xbox Scarlett could be a generation forward respect the Playstation 5.

Am i the only one who thinks they are both the same machine?
No, I'm sure others do but I'm generally of the belief that while similar they've struck different deals at different times and are at different stages in the development process which will likely result in divergences in design.
 
Saying this is like talking to a 12 year old is not a basis of maturity, not on my end anyway but rather on yours. You preach in spectacle, doomsaying and hyperbole, you seek poor data, you say dumb things and coin childish terms.

I wouldn't be surprised if in your next statement you throw in Xflop or some other derivative. Service and hardware success are not mutually exclusive, they can both thrive but as previously stated you clearly have an agenda and want to see Xbox gone so I digress.

Its not dooms day, that is your feelings that are getting hurt. Microsoft as a company has changed they are probably 70-80% there, the rest will take another decade or so.

Xbox as a Hardware is over, meaning not relevant going forward, its not personal. Its not Dooms Day anymore than support for my Lumia will no longer get support after 2019, at least the prior Xbox as a Hardware customers are getting support for a while at the least. Xbox is no longer a Hardware, its a Service Platform.

I expect sales to continue to go down as far as Xbox as a Hardware, generally speaking, and there is a reason for that - once you take off the rose tinted glasses.
 
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Its not dooms day, that is your feelings that are getting hurt. Microsoft as a company has changed they are probably 70-80% there, the rest will take another decade or so.

Xbox as a Hardware is over, meaning not relevant going forward, its not personal. Its not Dooms Day anymore than support for my Lumia will no longer get support after 2019, at least the prior Xbox as a Hardware customers are getting support for a while at the least. Xbox is no longer a Hardware, its a Service Platform.
Xbox hardware is not over, there is the introduction of your far reaching hyperbole again. You're being absolutely ridiculous.

This isn't about feelings, this isn't personal you're just not grounded in any kind of plausible reality. Their services are not intended to overtake, they are complimentary, they are optional programs and subscriptions which can subsidize game purchases for those willing to partake. They've already made it abundantly clear that even their streaming vision is a long scale option.

Again a service market and a physical are not mutually exclusive, they can thrive independent of each other and together. The irony in all of this is Sony is quite literally going in EXACTLY the same route as them yet I have not heard a peep out of you about it. They're doubling down in streaming and ironically have partnered with Microsoft for Azure, PS Now already functions like GamePass and you can download games.

You're impossible to have a serious conversation with because what you choose to bring to the table is not of serious consideration.
 
$499 premium? this is still dirt cheap for such a console with a UHD drive. Building this on your own would cost around $800: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-...erful-as-the-xbox-one-x-2019-edition.1473144/

lol

Oh boy, why would you quote that thread unless you're Voost Kain yourself. Had you read the thread you'd know it does not cost $800 to build a comparable PC. But go ahead and be disingenuous and compare to PC instead of comparing to Sony's machine. Even so at the time of the One, you could've built a PC for $400. So much for MS deep pockets right?
 
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Xbox hardware is not over, there is the introduction of your far reaching hyperbole again. You're being absolutely ridiculous.

This isn't about feelings, this isn't personal you're just not grounded in any kind of plausible reality. Their services are not intended to overtake, they are complimentary, they are optional programs and subscriptions which can subsidize game purchases for those willing to partake. They've already made it abundantly clear that even their streaming vision is a long scale option.

Again a service market and a physical are not mutually exclusive, they can thrive independent of each other and together. The irony in all of this is Sony is quite literally going in EXACTLY the same route as them yet I have not heard a peep out of you about it. They're doubling down in streaming and ironically have partnered with Microsoft for Azure, PS Now already functions like GamePass and you can download games.

You're impossible to have a serious conversation with because what you choose to bring to the table is not of serious consideration.

As far as it being relevant its over, meaning the collapse in sales is for a reason. Its no different than any of their other hardware, the difference is they can salvage (or the believe they can) some of the Xbox as a Hardware users and charge them premium prices. Yes, its hard to have a conversation with you as you don't understand the technology business and are too rooted into their product to see the trees. I never said that service market and physical are mutually exclusive.... but in this case they have to destroy the physical to expand the services. Once you take out the exclusivity of a weak product, the product collapses.
 
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As far as it being relevant its over, meaning the collapse in sales is for a reason. Its no different than any of their other hardware, the difference is they can salvage (or the believe they can) some of the Xbox as a Hardware user. Yes, its hard to have a conversation with you as you don't understand the technology business and are too rooted into their product to see the trees.

I never said that service market and physical are mutually exclusive.... but in this case they have to destroy the physical to expand the services. Once you take out the exclusivity of a weak product, the product collapses.
Yeah it's easy to say this and then you talk about the Switch which is one of the most ironic commentaries I've seen in a while. Microsoft's consoles are dead but in the same amount of time they roughly outsold Nintendo's last outing by a factor of 4:1, but it's over right?

You can't be taken seriously because as I said you bring nothing to the table of serious consideration, it's illogical fanaticism. And as far as the "collapse of sales" there isn't one, the generation is on its way out and both Microsoft and Sony are falling YoY by double digit percentages, this isn't an exclusive phenomenon.

Consider this conversation over.
 
Yeah it's easy to say this and then you talk about the Switch which is one of the most ironic commentaries I've seen in a while. Microsoft's consoles are dead but in the same amount of time they roughly outsold Nintendo's last outing by a factor of 4:1, but it's over right?

You can't be taken seriously because as I said you bring nothing to the table of serious consideration, it's illogical fanaticism. And as far as the "collapse of sales" there isn't one, the generation is on its way out and both Microsoft and Sony are falling YoY by double digit percentages, this isn't an exclusive phenomenon.

Consider this conversation over.

My opinion of Nintendo is roughly every other hardware product sells, and this time they split the handheld/console market up. Xbox as a Hardware is irrelevant because Microsoft doesn't really care about it, which is why their exclusive library will be opened up i..e. Steam is the first but won't be the last. This produces a downward spiral as the things that console users enjoy are being somewhat destroyed i.e. exclusivity. Well, I would say the collapse in sales has already happened but I wouldn't be surprised by yet another huge collapse from here till the Next Xbox - you're living in some type of Bizarro World.
 
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Interesting if true, puts pressure to Sony to step up.

Console wars is great for consumers.
As far as I've seen this gen, everything MS does is to put pressure on Sony, at least that's the argument from most MS fans, but I don't see it...….I don't see how they can....The only way MS can put pressure on SONY is if they start delivering high quality, high scoring games that people love.....

This whole gen it's been......TVTVTV, Kinect, Bluray and Snap will put pressure on Sony to take over the living room....Such and such a hyped game will put pressure on Sony (all said games/names have been crossed out on a huge list btw)……...MS games will draw unlimited power from the Cloud and put pressure on Sony, MS's crossplay campaign of "Sony don't wanna crossplay" will put pressure on Sony, when Sony has the most crossplay games by a country mile, Fortnite will put pressure on Sony, Ea access will put pressure on Sony, Gamepass (is a gamechanger) and will put pressure on Sony, it just never ends......Everytime one pressure point fails, MS fans move to the other...

So recently, a new set of pressure points has been realized and targeted, even trumpeted by some, LIKE: MS buying new studios will put pressure on Sony, XBOX2 is going to be more powerful and put pressure on SONY (yet, XBONEX?)….Xcloud will put pressure on Sony and decimate PSNOW....Annnnnd now, it's MS will have hardware raytracing and Sony won't, Pffft…. If said said Sooth-Sayers served under the Tudor King (King Henry), they would have lost their heads a thousand times over, going by their premonitions.....


Forget about everything, the only thing that matters are the games, not the delivery method, not the hardware, not the promises.....Only delivery of quality games matter.....
 
My opinion of Nintendo is roughly every other hardware product sells, and this time they split the handheld/console market up. Xbox as a Hardware is irrelevant because Microsoft doesn't really care about it, which is why their exclusive library will be opened up i..e. Steam is the first but won't be the last. This produces a downward spiral as the things that console users enjoy are being somewhat destroyed i.e. exclusivity. Well, I would say the collapse in sales has already happened but I wouldn't be surprised by yet another huge collapse from here till the Next Xbox - you're living in some type of Bizarro World.
Wait what? The only people that seem offended by xbox games going to pc are sony fanboys. It's their favorite go to argument. "Omg xbox has no exclusives!" Mostly I've seen console users acknowledge that regardless of PC, they enjoy playing games on a console. So your logic is flawed, but don't mind me. I'm just a console user.
 
DF will write articles on "does 4k really matter"?....And they will conclude that the differences are negligible at best from where you sit.. Pretty much like for like....... When a poster puts up screen shots showing bigger visual differences, they will say, "some eagle-eyed poster on gaf was able to discern a bigger disparity, we are not amused"...... Those meddling kids eh! As Richard shakes his fists in disdain....
While I think that the differences will not be so important between the xbox Two and PS5, there will be some for sure.

As for DF, well they are a strange group of people for sure - before the X was released they went out of their way to say that the XBone games at 900p looked just like PS4s native 1080p games despite the vaseline filter ... now on 4K they will spot any kind of resolution disparity on a 40" TV from 100ft between the PRO and the X... We had a similar attitude for frame rate drops on the one compared to the PS4.

They still admitted most disparities - but they definitely downplayed one platform's disadvantages compared to the other.
 
Wait what? The only people that seem offended by xbox games going to pc are sony fanboys. It's their favorite go to argument. "Omg xbox has no exclusives!" Mostly I've seen console users acknowledge that regardless of PC, they enjoy playing games on a console. So your logic is flawed, but don't mind me. I'm just a console user.

There is less incentive for people to buy dedicated hardware if the games are available on other platforms, why do you think consoles are closed?
 
As far as I've seen this gen, everything MS does is to put pressure on Sony, at least that's the argument from most MS fans, but I don't see it...….I don't see how they can....The only way MS can put pressure on SONY is if they start delivering high quality, high scoring games that people love.....

This whole gen it's been......TVTVTV, Kinect, Bluray and Snap will put pressure on Sony to take over the living room....Such and such a hyped game will put pressure on Sony (all said games/names have been crossed out on a huge list btw)……...MS games will draw unlimited power from the Cloud and put pressure on Sony, MS's crossplay campaign of "Sony don't wanna crossplay" will put pressure on Sony, when Sony has the most crossplay games by a country mile, Fortnite will put pressure on Sony, Ea access will put pressure on Sony, Gamepass (is a gamechanger) and will put pressure on Sony, it just never ends......Everytime one pressure point fails, MS fans move to the other...

So recently, a new set of pressure points has been realized and targeted, even trumpeted by some, LIKE: MS buying new studios will put pressure on Sony, XBOX2 is going to be more powerful and put pressure on SONY (yet, XBONEX?)….Xcloud will put pressure on Sony and decimate PSNOW....Annnnnd now, it's MS will have hardware raytracing and Sony won't, Pffft…. If said said Sooth-Sayers served under the Tudor King (King Henry), they would have lost their heads a thousand times over, going by their premonitions.....


Forget about everything, the only thing that matters are the games, not the delivery method, not the hardware, not the promises.....Only delivery of quality games matter.....
The ways Microsoft has put pressure on Sony this generation.

  • Backward compatibility adoption
  • Streaming and network infrastructure investment
  • GamePass and doubling down on downloads for PS Now
  • A 4K UHD drive
  • Better hardware
  • Crossplay
  • Name changes
  • UI organization
  • Refund policies

You don't have to be doing better numerically to pressure your competitor, you simply have to be doing things which highlight where they're doing worse.

There is less incentive for people to buy dedicated hardware if the games are available on other platforms, why do you think consoles are closed?
Yet Xbox One sales have remained consistent in the face of Microsoft's games coming to PC and Play Anywhere. Console/PC crossover players are a fractional minority, most are one or the other not both.
 
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Yet Xbox One sales have remained consistent in the face of Microsoft's games coming to PC and Play Anywhere. Console/PC crossover players are a fractional minority, most are one or the other not both.

No, Xbox One sales have constantly gone down during that time period. Now we can speculate as to why the sales have gone down, but no, we're at original Xbox levels right now, if not below from what I can tell for 2019.
 
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No, Xbox One sales have constantly gone down during that time period.
Not in the United States, not in the UK which are about the only two places you can get solidified hardware data which is easily accessible.

You're blowing smoke.
 
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There is less incentive for people to buy dedicated hardware if the games are available on other platforms, why do you think consoles are closed?
Again, you're just completely ignoring the fact that people play games on consoles because they enjoy playing games on a console. It's a personal preference and I don't see games being on pc changing that preference for any but the more dedicated and pre-existing pc players. Why does everyone seems to think that those people playing games on the xbox console are unhappy and just waiting for an excuse to abandon ship? No, we're playing games we like. The option to buy a ps4 or switch has always been there. If anything, I think we're seeing the retention of a loyal fan base during the worst gen that Microsoft has ever had. Logically, next gen the same people will still be on the xbox platform with a good chance that some older fans will return to the platform.
 
Not in the United States, not in the UK which are about the only two places you can get solidified hardware data.

You're blowing smoke.

So... Microsoft is going to a service platform because Xbox as a Hardware has good sales? Why are they publishing to Steam again? Oh because the Microsoft Store and Xbox as a Hardware doing well? Microsoft isn't releasing hardware numbers because they're good numbers? (is that what you actually think? I hope not)

You're about to go on my ignore.
 
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Again, you're just completely ignoring the fact that people play games on consoles because they enjoy playing games on a console. It's a personal preference and I don't see games being on pc changing that preference for any but the more dedicated and pre-existing pc players. Why does everyone seems to think that those people playing games on the xbox console are unhappy and just waiting for an excuse to abandon ship? No, we're playing games we like. The option to buy a ps4 or switch has always been there. If anything, I think we're seeing the retention of a loyal fan base during the worst gen that Microsoft has ever had. Logically, next gen the same people will still be on the xbox platform with a good chance that some older fans will return to the platform.

Sure, but a good portion of people play on multiple devices and PC, once the exclusivity is gone... all that remains is a hardware where devs/pubs will skip, and customers can skip and play the games on their other devices.

Just because you want to play on the console doesn't mean your console manufacturer of choice has a business which can be supported.
 
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The ways Microsoft has put pressure on Sony this generation.

  • Backward compatibility adoption
  • Streaming and network infrastructure investment
  • GamePass and doubling down on downloads for PS Now
  • A 4K UHD drive
  • Better hardware
  • Crossplay
  • Name changes
  • UI organization
  • Refund policies

You don't have to be doing better numerically to pressure your competitor, you simply have to be doing things which highlight where they're doing worse.

Yet Xbox One sales have remained consistent in the face of Microsoft's games coming to PC and Play Anywhere. Console/PC crossover players are a fractional minority, most are one or the other not both.

You don't even know what PS Now is, lol.
 
So... Microsoft is going to a service platform because Xbox as a Hardware has good sales? Why are they publishing to Steam again? Oh because the Microsoft Store and Xbox as a Hardware doing well?

You're about to go on my ignore.
I'd prefer if you put me on ignore as you're a hyperbolic and lying nuisance. They are publishing on Steam because of community feedback and the ailings of the Windows Store on PC, no one likes it.

This also has nothing to do with Xbox hardware, Microsoft has traditionally always been a PC publisher and they fell out of touch, they've simply returned to form. Causation does not equal correlation which is something you need to learn.

You don't even know what PS Now is, lol.
Really? Last I checked it was a streaming subscription which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games.

How do I not know what it is exactly? Did you think you had me pigeonholed or something? What was your logic going into this post?
 
Really? Last I checked it was a streaming subscription which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games.

How do I not know what it is exactly? Did you think you had me pigeonholed or something? What was your logic going into this post?

Lol, you still don't know.
 
You're blowing smoke.
You're selective in your data points, if they lost half of their hardware sales over the course of the generation they must care, it affects the game sales, people buy third party titles on the competing platforms... not theirs, they don't just throw money at Xbox to spite Sony or to make you happy.

Same thing for that "pressure" they put on Sony, they should have started to make good games like Sony did on the PS3 - it would reflect in sales, and their reputation as a platform holder would be great, people would be hyped for the next generation Xbox, even if for some reason they would be behind (they wouldn't be behind if they had a steady flow of gread exclusives, at least not far behind).

Everything else is meaningless is you don't deliver something special with your gaming platform.
 
I really hope both new systems are as quiet as the One X. That thing is dead silent and gets most of my play time now. I really should think about getting a new case and fans for my PC cause it can get pretty distracting when it ramps up. All the tales of the PS4 Pro have been documented so I won't restate then.

TDLR: Quiet hardware please like the One X
 
I'd prefer if you put me on ignore as you're a hyperbolic and lying nuisance. They are publishing on Steam because of community feedback and the ailings of the Windows Store on PC, no one likes it.

This also has nothing to do with Xbox hardware, Microsoft has traditionally always been a PC publisher and they fell out of touch, they've simply returned to form. Causation does not equal correlation which is something you need to learn.

Really? Last I checked it was a streaming subscription which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games.

How do I not know what it is exactly? Did you think you had me pigeonholed or something? What was your logic going into this post?

Yes, I'm sure to you that thinks Xbox as a Hardware is selling that I'm a nuisance, none of what you have said makes any sense that I can see. Since all you are reduced it to basically more name calling because I'm hurting you with sales numbers, I'll glad put you on ignore.

I found it funny you called me a 12 year old but you're the one mad about Xbox as a Hardware not selling, its not.
 
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Yes, I'm sure to you that thinks Xbox as a Hardware is selling that I'm a nuisance, none of what you have said makes any sense that I can see.

Since all you are reduced to is basically more name calling because I'm hurting you with sales numbers, I'll glad put you on ignore.
Adios amigo, I won't miss your delusional tribe speak.
 
My list of green, delusional trolls to ignore has grown exponentially. Omg some of these ppl have to be paid ninjas lol. It's like none of them learned to stop assuming or spreading crap after the MisterXMedia meltdown and expose as a fraud tht knew shit.
 
This is all PR talk. I've heard it all before many times in previous console generations. No matter how much they want to talk about it...

They will still be somewhat similar in power.

PC will always be more powerful than consoles.

Exclusive games will be the biggest diffrenciator.
 
I literally just told you exactly what it is, you made a dumb post, own it.

No, you still don't know what it is. Let me explain it to you because you're making a fool out of yourself as usual. It's a streaming subscription where you DON"T need a PS4 to STREAM. The point of STREAMING is so you can use OTHER DEVICES to STREAM on it. You simply cannot download the games on those other devices.

So yeah, your post was dumb and your point was moot. Now own up to it.
 
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You're selective in your data points, if they lost half of their hardware sales over the course of the generation they must care, it affects the game sales, people buy third party titles on the competing platforms... not theirs, they don't just throw money at Xbox to spite Sony or to make you happy.

Same thing for that "pressure" they put on Sony, they should have started to make good games like Sony did on the PS3 - it would reflect in sales, and their reputation as a platform holder would be great, people would be hyped for the next generation Xbox, even if for some reason they would be behind (they wouldn't be behind if they had a steady flow of gread exclusives, at least not far behind).

Everything else is meaningless is you don't deliver something special with your gaming platform.
They didn't lose anything, they simply didn't hit the milestone of their last system. That's not a loss, each platform operates independent of the last. Sure it could be viewed as disappointing but a loss it is not.

They still make hand over fist an absurd amount of money regardless with 3rd party licensing, platform fees, services and subscriptions. They'll draw this generation of console to a close in likely the 60 million range which is no slouch in general. People have come to the deluded conclusion that if you're not selling as well as your competitior that you're in some way failing, that's asinine. If that was the case nearly the whole of the automotive industry would not exist.

No, you still don't know what it is. Let me explain it to you because you're making a fool out of yourself as usual. It's a streaming subscription where you DON"T need a PS4 to STREAM. The point of STREAMING is so you can use OTHER DEVICES to STREAM on it. You simply cannot download the games on those other devices.

So yeah, your post was dumb and your point was moot. Now own up to it.
You're just repeating what I said and framing it differently.

Really? Last I checked it was a streaming subscription which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games.
 
No, you still don't know what it is. Let me explain it to you because you're making a fool out of yourself as usual. It's a streaming subscription where you DON"T need a PS4 to STREAM. The point of STREAMING is so you can use OTHER DEVICES to STREAM on it. You simply cannot download the games on those other devices.

So yeah, your post was dumb and your point was moot. Now own up to it.

You can't help these people.

I had a question for the other astroturfer in the other thread, my question was this:

"So, let me get this right, you want Sony to allow Microsoft to rent me PS games on a PS device?"

:messenger_tears_of_joy:

I thought it was worse than 2013, six months ago, I can't even imagine the silliness we're going to have to hear in 2020.
 
Sorry pal, you're still wrong because you simply did not know what it was.
I told you exactly what it is, it's a streaming service which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games. That's what it is.

I don't have to denote that it's also on PC and that you cannot download PS4 games on PC, that's implied common sense. You're absolutely off your rocker.
 
I told you exactly what it is, it's a streaming service which also allows you to download select PlayStation 4 games. That's what it is.

I don't have to denote that it's also on PC and that you cannot download PS4 games on PC, that's implied common sense. You're absolutely off your rocker.

  • GamePass and doubling down on downloads for PS Now

That's what you wrote, you were wrong. I like how you tell other people to own it but you're not owning to your own mistake. And no the service was just not on PS4/PC when it first came out, so you still don't know what the purpose of it was.
 
  • GamePass and doubling down on downloads for PS Now

That's what you wrote, you were wrong. I like how you tell other people to own it but you're not owning to your own mistake. And no the service was just not on PS4/PC when it first came out, so you still don't know what the purpose of it was.

Bro just use the ignore function. It's a waste of time arguing with a zealot, know it all.
 
  • GamePass and doubling down on downloads for PS Now

That's what you wrote, you were wrong. I like how you tell other people to own it but you're not owning to your own mistake. And no the service was just not on PS4/PC when it first came out, so you still don't know what the purpose of it was.
You're so clouded by fanaticism you can't see anything beyond it.

GamePass absolutely put pressure on them to add PlayStation 4 downloads and the select PS2 games they have available on the PS Now service, that's not even a question. xCloud and alternatively Stadia hits the other side of the service which has pressured them to build a new network and infrastructure with the ability to scale they could not hit on their previous network, ironically with Microsoft.

Your posts are absurd.
 
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You're so clouded by fanaticism you can't see anything beyond it.

GamePass absolutely put pressure on them to add PlayStation 4 downloads and the select PS2 games they have available on the PS Now service, that's not even a question. xCloud and alternatively Stadia hits the other side of the service which has pressured them to build a new network and infrastructure with the ability to scale they could not hit on their previous network, ironically with Microsoft.

Your posts are absurd.

Boy you sure do like to assume a lot.
 
Oh sure it's an assumption, sure... PS Now had existed for 3 years as is then GamePass launches and gains traction and then low and behold Sony adds downloads to their streaming subscription.

Assumption, mmhmm.

Do you know the inner workings of Sony and why they allowed download? Nope you don't, so yeah assumptions on your part. But go ahead and keep thinking its because of MS that they were forced to add in downloads, lol.
 
Graphics long ago reached a point of diminishing returns for me. All I care about is the games.

PC/PS/Ninty is the way to go for me, and has been for a long time.
 
Graphics long ago reached a point of diminishing returns for me. All I care about is the games.

PC/PS/Ninty is the way to go for me, and has been for a long time.

I think people are going to be disappointed by pure graphics going forward over the next 10-20 years. Baby steps now. I think something like The Last of Us 2 (animations), and even some of the stuff in Days Gone (weather effects) is where its going to have to be focused on.
 
I hope one is substantially more powerful than the other. I just want to watch forums meltdown. Some people on here would get really hurt feelings that their console of choice isn't stronger.

All I know is I'll be the winner come the end as I'll just buy the one that has more power/games initially and then just get the other down the road when the library is more well rounded. Don't really give a shit about which one.
 
They didn't lose anything, they simply didn't hit the milestone of their last system. That's not a loss, each platform operates independent of the last. Sure it could be viewed as disappointing but a loss it is not.
This is not how business people usually see it - let's say you build a console and you know there are 10 people who would buy it, you denote that as your addressable market and you want to get as close to this as possible (given all the other benefits that come with a console sale; gold subscriptions, software sales, third party software platform tax, etc.). Then let's say some other company comes around and sells consoles to 7 of those consoles right when you release your product, then you're stuck selling 3 or 4 consoles (if you are lucky and some people buy both).

How can you and your boss be happy about it? All these active xbox IDs on PC do not pay for xbox live gold, you don't get much revenue from third party sales. They are so proud of their windows store's performance that they decided to release their games on Steam - in order to make some money with them.

Also, don't forget that the rumors we had since E3 all point in the same direction: Developers who worked with both machines say the PS5 is the more powerful console that will come out for the next generation. - Rumors I know, this is the best we have to go by so far, and this is better than the speculation video this thread is based on.
 
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He's just glad to be sitting at the big boy table with Uncle Satya at this point, as it was very apparent Uncle Satya was ready to mothball the whole thing until last year.

Lil Phil has to get services up and running or Uncle Satya will slap down hard in a few years. Lil Phil has a tough job dealing with Uncle Satya, but it sure beats flipping burgers.
You could hide your agenda better without the fanboy wording.
 
tribe speak.
Dynamite, do you actually realize that you yourself are a pretty big MS fanboy, in fact one of the most prominent ones on GAF right now?

Oh sure it's an assumption, sure... PS Now had existed for 3 years as is then GamePass launches and gains traction and then low and behold Sony adds downloads to their streaming subscription.

Assumption, mmhmm.
Does this mean Sony put "pressure" on MS first by beating them to market with their streaming service?
 
I hope one is substantially more powerful than the other. I just want to watch forums meltdown. Some people on here would get really hurt feelings that their console of choice isn't stronger.

All I know is I'll be the winner come the end as I'll just buy the one that has more power/games initially and then just get the other down the road when the library is more well rounded. Don't really give a shit about which one.

Yeah idk why ppl take that to heart. I'd just buy the one that resonates better with me. Example PS is a no brainer for me regardless of power bcus I enjoy their ips. Microsoft is usually a wait and see but if it turns out to be more powerful and I see games I'm Interested in I'll get it no issues.
 
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