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[DenchDeckard]

It must suck to be this jizz guy.

 

[Yoda]

Not sure there's a point in having a dedicated console anymore then? Really hard to justify buying a Xbox over a PC. I know for current AAA games the price to performance ratio isn't bad, but think about the giant catalog you'd develop as a PC gamer overtime? No need to pray for backwards compatibility when upgrade time comes.

I think they lack of excellence at their first party really is their achilles heel: Halo, Starfield, Redfall. There are no grand slams or even home runs. I think Microsoft's corporate culture basically fuck everything it acquires. Essentially their infinite bank account from Office subscriptions is a double edged sword.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

3 options will be available…

It goes back to the article months ago if not last year where Xbox wanted to be even more flexible next generation, this is still on track

 

[Wandering Leopard]

I wonder if it was because they didn't see a return on investment on the big publishers they bought, or did they buy publishers with the intention of doing this.

 

[Topher]

 

[Jaybe]

Dude must have been crying into his Cheetos while writing that

 

[ByWatterson]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This is likely but it's Phil and Xbox so who knows how long this stance stays in place and I mean that either way, never coming or day and date

 

[Fess]

The traditional console maybe but they are not leaving the hardware business after this last week I am still 99.9% sure of that

What's the plan then? They were at the TGA showing the weird "This is an Xbox" ad for millions of gamers and announcing The Outer Worlds 2 for PS5 day 1. And Valve is at the starting block for SteamOS PCs, beating MS in their home turf. So how would they sell another Xbox?

 

[GHG]

Just talked specifically about something much more powerful (even if it may be PC based)

That would tie in with their latest statememts/updates regarding the Xbox app.

This is a the reason why they are making such a big push with getting titles added to "play anywhere", because PC is where they are going to attempt to transition their remaining console users to.

 

[Sanepar]

No point in buying one anymore then. This is like Sega 2001 all over again.

When people will understand they don't care about consoles anymore? Their goal is pc+cloud+gamepass

 

[cireza]

Anyone buying an Xbox at this point is just dumb.

This is the most logical deduction indeed.

They rendered Xbox consoles useless.

 

[DForce]

Things change. He doesn't run Xbox, nor does he work there. The people he gets his leaks from can be right until they aren't and it seems like Microsoft keeps evolving it's stance over time. it happens.

No. lol

His sources are just bad.

This was 2 months before the Business Update Podcast. He quickly changed when more reliable insiders started reporting that more games would be coming to PlayStation.

 

[RoboFu]

They are gearing up for the one app on all devices. It won't be soon but without games people want it will never work and they need to spread out their games for people to play them. It is what it is. but I do think that also means an Xbox console as well until then.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

That would tie in with their latest statememts/updates regarding the Xbox app.

This is a the reason why they are making such a big push with getting titles added to "play anywhere", because PC is where they are going to attempt to transition their remaining console users to.

I 100% expect this is correct as they try to sell a PC with the console like experience to people who dont want to upgrade it and can come home pick up the controller sit on the couch push a single button and jump into gaming, everything updated on its own

 

[havoc00]

I 100% expect this is correct as they try to sell a PC with the console like experience to people who dont want to upgrade it and can come home pick up the controller sit on the couch push a single button and jump into gaming, everything updated on its own

Are you thinking this will be a premium priced device? Over 700 bucks?

 

[spons]

"Sources", lmao. Jez only spouts opportunistic hollow blanket statements. I can't be bothered to look this up but I'm 99.9% sure he never leaked anything about upcoming games, such as names, footage, gameplay or story information, etc.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Gears of War E Day with the DualSense Edge

Oh and rip xbox consoles.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Are you thinking this will be a premium priced device? Over 700 bucks?

Without a doubt, could be $999+ after the pricing of the PS5 Pro

 

[Zero_Karisma]

Gamed with a few people that knows stuff

I would bet huge amounts of cash they will still have Xbox labeled hardware just maybe not a traditional console

Do you think we could see consuls manufacturing opened up to 3rd parties? Dell or Lenovo Xbox for example.

 

[EN250]

From the makers of "GP actually increases game sales" and "it's just 4 games, breh, MS ain't going Third Party" comes: "they don't want to just mandate it on teams that aren't set up yet for multiplatform simultaneous development, totally not a boiling frog situation where we gradually do this thing we deny constrantly to end up finishing it after some period of time"

 

[Mr Moose]

Phil Spencer said there would be more Xbox "consoles". Anything you hear contradict the "console" part specifically?

console1
/kənˈsəʊl/
verb
verb: console; 3rd person present: consoles; past tense: consoled; past participle: consoled; gerund or present participle: consoling

1. comfort (someone) at a time of grief or disappointment.
   "she tried to console him but he pushed her gently away"

Phil be like "Hey, I didn't lie". Consoling Xbox fans.

 

[GHG]

I 100% expect this is correct as they try to sell a PC with the console like experience to people who dont want to upgrade it and can come home pick up the controller sit on the couch push a single button and jump into gaming, everything updated on its own

Man, if they go this route with the Xbox app/windows store in its current condition (along with Windows 11 being in the state that it's in at the moment, both for general purpose and for gaming specifically), they are going to leave themselves very vulnerable to SteamOS in the long run.

If they decide to go down this road it's important they get it right out of the gate and don't leave people with a bad impression. They have a lot of work to do.

 

[Topher]

This is likely but it's Phil and Xbox so who knows how long this stance stays in place and I mean that either way, never coming or day and date

What's really strange is that Jez is basically calling bullshit on Matt Booty saying this will still be determined on a "game by game basis".

So.....Booty is talking out of his ass.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I 100% expect this is correct as they try to sell a PC with the console like experience to people who dont want to upgrade it and can come home pick up the controller sit on the couch push a single button and jump into gaming, everything updated on its own

I wonder if this push will come into conflict with what Valve appears to be doing with Steam OS.

Two big gaming companies pouring resources into PC gaming at the same time, it's going to be interesting!

 

[Skifi28]

So.....Booty is talking out of his ass.

 

[Crayon]

Man, if they go this route with the Xbox app/windows store in its current condition (along with Windows 11 being in the state that it's in at the moment, both for general purpose and for gaming specifically), they are going to leave themselves very vulnerable to SteamOS in the long run.

If they decide to go down this road it's important they get it right out of the gate and don't leave people with a bad impression. They have a lot of work to do.

This is my thing with the requests for the gaming focused mode on windows or whatever. At least my first thing. I don't know how they roll out of bed one day and decide to get good at that.

The issue that follows is that if they did release some faster, easier, version of windows without so much distractions and bloat... why would anyone use the regular windows for anything?

 

[DenchDeckard]

That would tie in with their latest statememts/updates regarding the Xbox app.

This is a the reason why they are making such a big push with getting titles added to "play anywhere", because PC is where they are going to attempt to transition their remaining console users to.

Nailed it 100%

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Do you think we could see consuls manufacturing opened up to 3rd parties? Dell or Lenovo Xbox for example.

I dunno I still haven't heard that and I dont ask direct questions I just let them talk but that is the rumor from others

Man, if they go this route with the Xbox app/windows store in its current condition (along with Windows 11 being in the state that it's in at the moment, both for general purpose and for gaming specifically), they are going to leave themselves very vulnerable to SteamOS in the long run.

If they decide to go down this road it's important they get it right out of the gate and don't leave people with a bad impression.

They better stick the landing which I don't have a ton of faith in them doing

I do want to add that I also would not be shocked if rich daddy stopped burning money and cuts Phil off one day

Most wealthy parents get tired of buying their kids expensive new cars only to have them repeatedly crash them.

As of now Xbox is not cut off from the "war chest"

Star


What's really strange is that Jez is basically calling bullshit on Matt Booty saying this will determined on a "game by game basis".

So.....Booty is talking out of his ass.

I have said this before here but even when Ybarra was still with Xbox Phil had grand plans of putting at least all MP games on PS day and date and really wanted Halo Infinite to be the first

 

[Loomy]

What does it matter? If you like Xbox games, just buy them on your PS5.


Things change. He doesn't run Xbox, nor does he work there. The people he gets his leaks from can be right until they aren't and it seems like Microsoft keeps evolving it's stance over time. it happens.

Then maybe he should stop presenting things as if he has credible insider insights into decision making processes he's clearly not privy to.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Star


What's really strange is that Jez is basically calling bullshit on Matt Booty saying this will still be determined on a "game by game basis".

So.....Booty is talking out of his ass.

Oh and to add Jez don't know shit, he only repeats what he is given by Xbox in terms of those marching orders

 

[PJX]

As a gamer I'm done with Microsoft. I haven't bought a MS developed game since Psychonauts 2 and will never support them. As a developer I see no reason to release any game on their platform because why would I?

 

[BennyBlanco]

The funniest thing about Jez to me and all this drama, isn't even about Xbox. It's about him seemingly never getting over the death of Windows Phones. He is constantly bringing it up and malding about it even in the tiny amount of clips I see of him speaking about the current state of Xbox.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

As a gamer I'm done with Microsoft. I haven't bought a MS developed game since Psychonauts 2 and will never support them. As a developer I see no reason to release any game on their platform because why would I?

Not release on PC?

 

[nemiroff]

And it's good to see Playstation only a couple of years (or so) behind Xbox in this timeline. There's a multiplatform future ahead for everyone, and it's all good.

 

[Topher]

Oh and to add Jez don't know shit, he only repeats what he is given by Xbox in terms of those marching orders

Yeah....kinda figured that. Fact of the matter is that you cannot trust much that is said from anyone on the green team whether we are talking about executives or the media. Just have to wait and see how it all plays out.

 

[Judge Death]

When people will understand they don't care about consoles anymore? Their goal is pc+cloud+gamepass

Errr, yes. I know. I didn't say there's no point in buying any of their games anymore. Doesn't help the people who have one already though, does it?

 

[Topher]

The funniest thing about Jez to me and all this drama, isn't even about Xbox. It's about him seemingly never getting over the death of Windows Phones. He is constantly bringing it up and malding about it even in the tiny amount of clips I see of him speaking about the current state of Xbox.

He will bring up Mixer from time to time as well. He treats the death of a Microsoft product like losing a child.

 

[GHG]

This is my thing with the requests for the gaming focused mode on windows or whatever. At least my first thing. I don't know how they roll out of bed one day and decide to get good at that.

The issue that follows is that if they did release some faster, easier, version of windows without so much distractions and bloat... why would anyone use the regular windows for anything?

It's absolutely baffling that they haven't already created some kind of gaming focused/specific windows OS already.

It would solve a lot of the overhead and general perfomance issues that have plagued windows/directX in recent years and it would have allowed them to put their own PC store along with gamepass front and center.

 

[Judge Death]

As a gamer I'm done with Microsoft. I haven't bought a MS developed game since Psychonauts 2 and will never support them. As a developer I see no reason to release any game on their platform because why would I?

What games have you previously released on XBOX?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Yeah....kinda figured that. Fact of the matter is that you cannot trust much that is said from anyone on the green team whether we are talking about executives or the media. Just have to wait and see how it all plays out.

What is funny about the inner workings of team green is I have heard Phil talk about certain games (when Ybarra was still with Xbox years ago) that were close to reveal and still waiting on them, never heard another peep about said games.

I would assume things change a lot within Sony as well but Xbox changes things like mad

 

[Topher]

 

[Moridianae]

Oh and to add Jez don't know shit, he only repeats what he is given by Xbox in terms of those marching orders

Yeah, except this same thread is over on the purple site and the denial over there is EXCEEDINGLY strong. I'd always believed they had a very strong MS proponent(they actively cheerled the Acti Blizz merger and got "mortified" when the layoffs showed up as everyone tried to warn them)

The usual "Jez doesn't know" there but it's less about how we've spoken about it here and more just pure denial that Xbox multiplatform is the future.

 

[LectureMaster]

Gamed with a few people that knows stuff

I would bet huge amounts of cash they will still have Xbox labeled hardware just maybe not a traditional console

Good Sir, Can I game with you guys next time? I can be a dummy bot and let you guys farm kills in Black Ops 6.

 

[Cyber_hunter026]

Live reaction of jez as he typed that out

 

[GHG]

I just voted.

 

[LordCBH]

It seemed very likely for a while now, but for me it was confirmed after Indiana was announced for PS5 before the game was even out and now with the Outer Worlds 2 being on PS5 day one. The only question I have is what happens to their older releases and if they'll be porting all of them.

I'd bet more popular titles might catch a port with some exceptions.

Older Forza's won't make the leap, but I bet new ones will.

 

[drganon]

And it's good to see Playstation only a couple of years (or so) behind Xbox in this timeline. There's a multiplatform future ahead for everyone, and it's all good.

 

[nemiroff]

Are you trying to make me horny..? Too late!

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Yeah, except this same thread is over on the purple site and the denial over there is EXCEEDINGLY strong. I'd always believed they had a very strong MS proponent(they actively cheerled the Acti Blizz merger and got "mortified" when the layoffs showed up as everyone tried to warn them)

The usual "Jez doesn't know" there but it's less about how we've spoken about it here and more just pure denial that Xbox multiplatform is the future.

Oh their course is 100% multiplat but what is funny not sure it would be if Gamepass didn't happen or if it would explode but that's a whole different can of worms


I just know they will still have consoles coming, they are too deep into developing their next systems