Funny, I have yet to miss a 100%-chance-to-hit shot.
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Funny, I have yet to miss a 100%-chance-to-hit shot.
As long as you want, but the aliens will still ramp up. Only the very last type of alien remains gated behind story missions, you'll still face really lethal stuff if you delay long enough.
Also that mission will have whatever the latest toughest stuff you are facing.
If you have Carapace + Lasers and a decent vet squad, you're probably ready for it. If not, tech up a bit.
Basileus777
Member
Is this true on normal?
No idea, haven't played it
Yes, I'm playing ironman normal and I can confirm.
Basileus777
Member
I'm not sure either, but I've heard that the enemies progress differently on lower difficulties, and he's playing on normal.
Ok, that answers that.
TheSpoiler
Member
I am on easy.
That's the problem.
Oh well. I'll just keep plugging away. The only trainers available cost money, so that must be a sign.
I should be doing hw
Member
Do soldiers get any buffs/bonuses when they are fighting in their respective country of origin? Would be neat if it added to Will slightly or something like that.
Almost, I'm at the point of no return in the game. I got a wipe on the last mission once but it allows you to restart. I didn't try a second run yet though. I think I can manage with my current team, though some aren't as ranked up as I would like, if I can deal with the sectopods swiftly.
One of my biggest gripes with the game, is that enemies don't roam around as much as I'd like. For instance I'm pretty sure there are certain rooms where there will never be an alien and rooms where there were always be one. The alliens inside the ufo never leave their room either. So I just always dash up to the door to the room containing the alien with everyone without worrying about anything getting the jump on me. Kinda takes the suspense away.
It feels like the alien spawning/roaming system was something of a compromise. I suspect they went through multiple iterations of having your dudes shot from the darkness and ultimately decided it didn't work well, for whatever reason.
You can still screw yourself royally if you do LOS reveals on your last moves, learning to use one scout as your first move (and/or abusing ghost and battle scanner later in the game) is a good part of getting over the difficulty hump.
I do wish Overwatch triggered instantly though, I could do without seeing/hearing another Overwatch VROOMP and 2 second delay ever again the next time I play this. You waste so much time leapfrogging your troops because there's no other safe way to do it (again, until you have ways of safely revealing los late in the game).
You can still screw yourself royally if you do LOS reveals on your last moves, learning to use one scout as your first move (and/or abusing ghost and battle scanner later in the game) is a good part of getting over the difficulty hump.
I do wish Overwatch triggered instantly though, I could do without seeing/hearing another Overwatch VROOMP and 2 second delay ever again the next time I play this. You waste so much time leapfrogging your troops because there's no other safe way to do it (again, until you have ways of safely revealing los late in the game).
Does it prevent you from getting achievements?
I should be doing hw
Member
I hope modding takes off for this game it could easily be done that way. There is such a good framework here that I want fleshed out with TES/Fallout levels of modded content.
Yes, you get a prompt to this exact effect asking if you want to continue without them when you put their names in.
yes
doooo iiiiitttt
Played the first missions today that I felt was completely unfair on normal ironman.
Level was a tiny construction site with a small 2 tile entry and basically no cover around the entrance except for a backhoe. Mutons spawn instantly, as the level is so small every time I move trying to flank I trigger more Mutons until I am surrounded and flanked from every direction.
In the end I retreat saving two of my soldiers which was a consolation. The rest of my soldiers were 1 shot by critical hits or charged to death.
Level was a tiny construction site with a small 2 tile entry and basically no cover around the entrance except for a backhoe. Mutons spawn instantly, as the level is so small every time I move trying to flank I trigger more Mutons until I am surrounded and flanked from every direction.
In the end I retreat saving two of my soldiers which was a consolation. The rest of my soldiers were 1 shot by critical hits or charged to death.
You know that snipers are OP when:
Double tap, plasma rifle + scope and squad sight is too op.
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in final 'battle', You kill Ethereal with 3 shots without AI can even start any movement, and killing him ends game 
Double tap, plasma rifle + scope and squad sight is too op.
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Few hours.
Basileus777
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Close. You'll have to do some research and base management, but you are close to the last mission.
When I first saw speculation that the game's reported hit percentages might not be accurate I recorded the game's stated to-hit percentages along with whether or not my shots actually hit for about 60 attacks and found that the mean of the game's stated accuracy and the mean of my actual accuracy were statistically identical. It's a pretty back-of-the-envelope calculation, but it was enough to satisfy me, especially when the mean of the stated accuracy and mean of the observed accuracy were converging as the sample size increased.
That's kind of cold comfort when a round of terrible shooting ends in tragedy for your hapless peons, I know.
Basileus777
Member
You know that snipers are OP when:
in final 'battle', You kill Ethereal with 3 shots without AI can even start any movement, and killing him ends game
Double tap, plasma rifle + scope and squad sight is too op.
The whole final mission is poorly designed. They send enemies at you three at a time and then telegraph where the final boss is, making it easy to set things up so you can handle that final room easily. You don't need snipers to kill him easily, a psi wave (or whatever the 4th psi ability is called) kills off the mutons, then anyone can rush in and shoot him.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The final level is designed very well.
But the main problem with the final level is that it's a Story Level, when the story is shit.
I had a zombie apocalypse yesterday. It's not funny when you have your men dug in deep like an Alabama-tick shooting everything in sight and you're outnumbered 2:1.
I'm all out of weapon fragments, there has been a shortage for a while. All I have to research is a laser pistol(unless something story wise comes up), but still. Same thing with ellerium, I don't get to try a couple of the really late game armor types until I get some more. On the other hand, I just shot a large UFO down.
Seeing how I'm nearing towards the end, I took a look at the achievements... holy crap. I don't go out of my way to get these in general, but this one looks like a lot of work. Win from every continent, win on impossible, win on ironman and classic/impossible.
Basileus777
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No one cares about the story in this game, the final level is poorly designed from a gameplay perspective, which is the only thing that matters. I suppose the design gives them an excuse for a bunch of exposition and voice over, but that doesn't make for a compelling final mission.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yea, I remember that map. I ended up losing 1 guy on classic. It's the tiniest map I've come across, by a wide margin.
Well just lost 2 full squads of 4 on Classic Ironman. First squad was lost when 2 support units got panicked by a Muton grenade and decided to shoot each other as well as wipe each others cover away and have the 2 other proceeding Muton's pick them off. The heavy was previously poisoned and so my supports couldn't get to him in time and so he held out as long as he could. My Lt. Sniper was hit my a grenade while behind a 4WD that exploded, so that all went to hell in 2 turns.
2nd squad was on a Bombing running and managed to disarm it before 6 Thin Men spawned and poisoned and crit my Support and Sniper. The other support as usual decided to panic and hunker down only to eat a plasma rifle in the face. The heavy thankfully RPG'd 3 cossy Thin Men and then got hunted down by the 3 other, he did so well!
Looks like I'll have to restart again, lost all 8 veterans! XCOM! :d
2nd squad was on a Bombing running and managed to disarm it before 6 Thin Men spawned and poisoned and crit my Support and Sniper. The other support as usual decided to panic and hunker down only to eat a plasma rifle in the face. The heavy thankfully RPG'd 3 cossy Thin Men and then got hunted down by the 3 other, he did so well!
Looks like I'll have to restart again, lost all 8 veterans! XCOM! :d
Basileus777
Member
You have strange standards for judging level design. You seem to think that the gameplay and story are both poor, yet the "final level is designed very well."
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
When did I say the gameplay was poor? I thought the gameplay was very addictive.
The level was designed very well. The level design.
I recorded what my attack rolls were in NWN2 since the game actually display your d20 roll, and I split them 50-50 from 1-10 and 11-20. After around 50 attacks I got 30% chance for 11-20 and 70% chance for 1-10. Not the most stringent test but I don't care enough anymore to test it again.
Source?
There is a remake called xenonauts in the making but that has nothing to do with the new xcom.
http://www.desura.com/games/xenonauts
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Sounds like fanboy talk.
It's on the newest show of www.gameone.de a german games tv show and blog. Unfortunatly they don't give any further details or sources.
You know that snipers are OP when:
in final 'battle', You kill Ethereal with 3 shots without AI can even start any movement, and killing him ends game
Double tap, plasma rifle + scope and squad sight is too op.
If snipers are OP, then what about my assault who did it in one rapid fire?
The real final boss is that Sectopod duo. Not looking forward to that on classic.
I'm not cool with unsourced euro media
I'll wait for Jake Solomon, Gentleman Adventurer to tell us all personally.
Then they are lying.
They make up news just for clickbait