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[ShadowgeistX]

Hey man what about Kiwami? That comes out in the summer.

If Kiwami is a retelling of the first story, then I've technically already experienced it. Don't get me wrong though, I'm totally going to buy and play it. I'm just really looking forward to the newest entry in the series.

I just watched a YouTube review and the reviewer seemed kind of down on it. He felt as thr finale chapter of the Kiryu story it didn't live up to the expectations. Overall, he it was a more limited game than Yakuza 5 and 0. He postulates that the great technical strides between 0/Kiwami and 6 came at the expense of gameplay depth. He also felt the story was much more simplistic, and while it succeded in resolving its conflicts, he didn't find them satisfying conclusions.

With that said, I'm still interested to check it out. Just seems like 0 might be a better game.

Here is the review if your interested: Yakuza 6 Review

You're killing me man. D=

But I'm with you, my interest level is still high. It's kind of a shame if 0 is the better game. They really did a good job with the additions to 0 and I was hoping they'd push it even further for 6. I can't wait to see how Kiryu's story wraps up.

 

[DerekOfTheDykes]

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The scene in question is probably set some time after the events of Yakuza 0, I'd imagine by now Kiryu's and Majima's reputation within their clans had mean they naturally knew of each other.

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Gotcha. I didn't want to look too deeply into it, but I knew the two characters already knew each other by the time the first game rolls around, so I guess I was just expecting them to actually meet in 0 since it was already setting up the stage for the original game in every other way.

 

[CorgiSmiles]

I just watched a YouTube review and the reviewer seemed kind of down on it. He felt as thr finale chapter of the Kiryu story it didn't live up to the expectations. Overall, he it was a more limited game than Yakuza 5 and 0. He postulates that the great technical strides between 0/Kiwami and 6 came at the expense of gameplay depth. He also felt the story was much more simplistic, and while it succeded in resolving its conflicts, he didn't find them satisfying conclusions.

With that said, I'm still interested to check it out. Just seems like 0 might be a better game.

Here is the review if your interested: Yakuza 6 Review

Being a brand new engine and platform (Note, Ishin/0/Kiwami are PS3 games at heart), it unfortunately does come at a price. But the Dragon engine has a lot more promise, not to mention the combat changes. 6 is basically the next Yakuza 3. One only hopes that Yakuza 7 will be a tremendous jump like Yakuza 1->Yakuza 2

 

[Lasty95]

Its closer to a 3D SoR game with RPG elements and a hub world to explore and activities to take part in, in some ways its like Shenmue, but not in other ways. Its nothing like GTA though.

Well, as long as the combat's good that's fine with me.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

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The scene in question is probably set some time after the events of Yakuza 0, I'd imagine by now Kiryu's and Majima's reputation within their clans had mean they naturally knew of each other.

Nah.

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IIRC, they first meet in Yakuza 1/Kiwami. That last scene was just a throw back for the fans. Just a foreshadowing, not an actual canon cut-scene.

 

[Aki-at]

If Kiwami is a retelling of the first story, then I've technically already experienced it. Don't get me wrong though, I'm totally going to buy and play it. I'm just really looking forward to the newest entry in the series.

Ah gotcha, yeah I'm probably looking forward to Yakuza 6 more since it might be the end of the series proper, but still hyped to finally experience Yakuza 1 with all these new bells and whistles.

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Except the second to last fight, I'm not looking forward to fighting that guy with his endless supply of bodyguards again.

 

[Shadowman16]

Nah.

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IIRC, the first they meet is in Yakuza 1/Kiwami. That last scene was just a throw back for the fans.

I believe your mistaken.

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When Kiryu meets Majima in Yakuza 1 in the prologue he already has a great deal of respect for him (I rewatched the vid in Kiwami where Majima first appears, and the dialog between him and Kiryu directly mentions that they've definitely met before).

 

[Aki-at]

Nah.

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IIRC, they first meet in Yakuza 1/Kiwami. That last scene was just a throw back for the fans. Just a foreshadowing, not an actual canon cut-scene.

They already knew each other in some degree by the start of Yakuza 1, Majima even comments about Kiryu

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about starting his own family and how Yumi works over at Serena. Even refers to him as Kiryu-chan.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

I believe your mistaken.

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When Kiryu meets Majima in Yakuza 1 for the first time he already has a great deal of respect for him (I rewatched the vid in Kiwami where Majima first appears, and the dialog between him and Kiryu directly mentions that they've definitely met before).

Are you sure about that Shadow? Cause I think

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they knew of each other (hence the respect Kiryu shows to Majima) but they had not meet each other beforehand.

I don't know, maybe I am remembering it wrong.

At any rate, that scene can't be

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their first meeting

cause the whole

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Kiryu-chan

attitude of Majima towards him begins in Yakuza 1.

They already knew each other in some degree by the start of Yakuza 1, Majima even comments about Kiryu

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about starting his own family and how Yumi works over at Serena. Even refers to him as Kiryu-chan.

Oh, wow. Then I'm definitely remembering it wrong.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

It's taking some self-restraint to not go buy 2, 3, 4, and 5. I know I'll overdose and never end up playing them all. But hey. Got that itch. I'll wait for Kiwami and go from there.

 

[Aki-at]

Are you sure about that Shadow? Cause I think

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they knew of each other (hence the respect Kiryu shows to Majima) but they had not meet each other beforehand.

I don't know, maybe I am remembering it wrong.

At any rate, that scene can't be

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their first meeting

cause the whole

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Kiryu-chan

attitude of Majima towards him begins in Yakuza 1.

He refers to him as

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Kiryu-chan in the opening moments of Yakuza 1 - https://youtu.be/UmIg5B7wrWQ?t=4m2s

I remember this thanks to Mark Hamill dropping chan all over the place!

 

[eyeball_kid]

I haven't checked my environment in a game so much since Legend of Zelda. Why am I looking for the glint of telephone cards everywhere? You can't even do anything with them! Why is this game so addictive??

 

[Son Of Sparda]

He refers to him as

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Kiryu-chan in the opening moments of Yakuza 1 - https://youtu.be/UmIg5B7wrWQ?t=4m2s

I remember this thanks to Mark Hamill dropping chan all over the place!

Hahaha, yeah that settles it. I was mistaken.

Forgive me, kyodais

 

[Ultimadrago]

Forgive me, kyodais

If you keep saying "kyodai" then I'll start saying "kyodai"!

My word of the month, right there,

 

[Harmen]

Are you sure about that Shadow? Cause I think

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they knew of each other (hence the respect Kiryu shows to Majima) but they had not meet each other beforehand.

I don't know, maybe I am remembering it wrong.

At any rate, that scene can't be

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their first meeting

cause the whole

Spoiler

Kiryu-chan

attitude of Majima towards him begins in Yakuza 1.


Oh, wow. Then I'm definitely remembering it wrong.

I always believed

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they already knew each other fairly well by the time y1 starts. Given both are fairly high within the ranks of two large tojo families, I think that makes sense

Furthermore, I regard that y0 cutscene as something

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that takes place somewhere between y0 and y2. Broad range, I know, but to me it was a brief flash forward as a nod to the fans

 

[Megasoum]

Hey guys, so I'm in Chapter 2 and really enjoying it.

Without spoiling anything (if possible) is there anything "missable" throughout the game? I want to do as much side content as possible and I hate it to stress out while playing a game that I might miss something by progression the main storyline lol.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

If you keep saying "kyodai" then I'll start saying "kyodai"!

My word of the month, right there,

We are all kyodais

I always believed

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they already knew each other fairly well by the time y1 starts. Given both are fairly high within the ranks of two large tojo families, I think that makes sense

Furthermore, I regard that y0 cutscene as something

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that takes place somewhere between y0 and y2. Broad range, I know, but to me it was a brief flash forward as a nod to the fans

Yeah, that makes more sense, cause

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they seem to know each other (or at least each others attitudes) quite well in that scene.

Hey guys, so I'm in Chapter 2 and really enjoying it.

Without spoiling anything (if possible) is there anything "missable" throughout the game? I want to do as much side content as possible and I hate it to stress out while playing a game that I might miss something by progression the main storyline lol.

Just some chapter related trophies. You can do all of the side stuff later on, or after finishing the game in the premium adventure mode.

 

[jiggles]

So is there any way to actually get better at catfights or is it 100% blind luck? I've lost every fight so far (of about 5) and it seems no matter how furiously I mash X to break ties, I still lose them.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

So is there any way to actually get better at catfights or is it 100% blind luck? I've lost every fight so far (of about 5) and it seems no matter how furiously I mash X to break ties, I still lose them.

Pure luck. I've played it for more than 4-5 hours and have only managed to win one tournament. It's really shitty.

 

[Ultimadrago]

So is there any way to actually get better at catfights or is it 100% blind luck? I've lost every fight so far (of about 5) and it seems no matter how furiously I mash X to break ties, I still lose them.

Try keeping a mental note of which move a girl uses more often. Using its counterhand as your default for the match may work out in terms of getting more consistent victories. My sample size is pretty small, but I think it worked for me. It prevented Fransisca and Momoka from getting more hairline fucking victories against my Jennifer (for the most part?).

 

[SirClinksAlot]

Well that pizza substory was weird as fuck.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Well that pizza substory was weird as fuck.

bizza?

 

[Aki-at]

Hahaha, yeah that settles it. I was mistaken.

Forgive me, kyodais

All is forgiven kyodai, we all share the same yume!

 

[sabertoothzombie]

Finally beat the game. Man that was a ride, I love Majima.

I still don't get why

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Kiryu and Majima went back to the families after how they were treated.

Guess I need to start playing the other ones in the series.

 

[Alucrid]

i played 1, some of 2 and not a lot of 3. but man, 0 just reminds me how good the series is. can't wait for kiwami and 6

 

[Fury451]

This win 10 catfight tournaments trophy can go jump in a lake.

 

[eyeball_kid]

Last night I finally got to where I could play some of the gambling games. Never heard of any of them, but once I started playing the Cee-Lo dice game, I realized this game (or a form of it) was in Suikoden 1. I actually liked the Suikoden 1 game better because it played faster, and you could actually control your throw. The one in Y0 seems to just be pure RNG.

 

[MYeager]

What a ride, what an experience! A great game indeed but I'm not sure it'll do enough to hold onto the GOTY ranking.

Really enjoyed the story for the most part and it's emotional beats in particular:

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The torture of Tachibana and Kiryu breaking in delivering that punch and Kuze's theme start up, amazing! The ending with Makoto and Majima's final scene as he leaves her in the shadows was damn depressing, I even felt a bit bad that Sagawa got topped off too even if he had it coming to him. My issues are the series continues the romanticised version of yakuzas it started to go down from 4 onwards, really these guys are a bunch of criminals, them crossing the line shouldn't be such a big deal. My other key criticism is the character of Goro Majima, there really isn't much that made him seem like the character I enjoyed so much in Yakuza 1 and 2. He comes across as a more mellow and sarcastic Kiryu then anything else, which would be fine if he wasn't the character we all know he'll grow into. Sort of feels like Yokoyama has a hard time trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Some other characters are shockingly in the game for so little, even if they should feel like they could have played a bigger role (Like Nishitani and Lee) that I would have hoped a better structure could have been put in place. Overall though the story gets a plus from me in how it doesn't try to pull out random twists and relying on one specific plot element like previous titles, a grounded yakuza crime story at the heart of it.

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I thought it wasn't very romanticized compared to almost all previous titles. We've got Yakuza kidnapping and selling women as sex slaves, involved in kicking out, beating, willing to kill or just to ruin the lives of those not willing to sell them property. Torture not only of other Yakuza just for not following orders (with the idea that Majima wasn't the first and that it was a regular thing) to having a guy around for that kind of thing because he's good at inflicting pain. Lots of stuff about loan sharking, including Kiryu opening the game with being 'loaned out' to beat a guy unconscious for not paying back his loans. You've got all the lieutenants internally fighting and willing to throw different live away just to get ahead and who detail some of the stuff they've done. Lot's of talk about how the man Kiryu admired the most also killed a ton of people to get to where he is.

I thought this game did almost too good of a job with showing that Kiryu was an exception to the rest, to the point where a lot of 'at least he never killed anyone' seemed kind of dumb because he certainly supports and is a part of a system that does murder and more.

Well that and the highway sequence, I mean even if somehow none of the people he does heat moves die WTF did they think happened to all those people he shot and the helicopter which crashed?!

 

[Megasoum]

So what are you supposed to get from side quests?

I know one of them gave me an item but I just finished two that didn't give me anything.

 

[Fury451]

So what are you supposed to get from side quests?

I know one of them gave me an item but I just finished two that didn't give me anything.

Items, money, satisfaction of helping others, sometimes employees. Varies.

 

[Floody]

So what are you supposed to get from side quests?

I know one of them gave me an item but I just finished two that didn't give me anything.

Some give you nothing, some give you items or people to use in Kiyru's and Majima's job

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Real Estate and running a Cabaret Club

and a lot just give you softcore porn.

 

[Megasoum]

Some give you nothing, some give you items or people to use in Kiyru's and Majima's job

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Real Estate and running a Cabaret Club

and a lot just give you softcore porn.

Sweet! lol



Edit: I'm terrible.. I think I'm on my 10th try of the first 10 000y fight in the Punchout Artist challenge lol

 

[Hostile_18]

Getting 5 million in Outrun may be my undoing lol. Anyone got any tips?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

jesus yall werent kidding about fully upgraded brawler kiryu.

Fully upgraded brawler+ being drunk+ super spicy knife means that a super spicy knife heat stabbing attack takes away like 1-2 full health bars off a mr shakedown. You can wreck him in a matter of seconds if you keep your heat up.

 

[RAWRferal]

Getting 5 million in Outrun may be my undoing lol. Anyone got any tips?

Don't crash.

I know that seems really fucking obvious, but seriously... Even if you have to brake severely and gear down.

Be gentle with the analog stick.

Be wary when going over crests/hills and be prepared to brake.

Also as someone quite helpfully said earlier in thread, gear up at about 140km/h for the best speed boost.

Good luck!

 

[MYeager]

Well that pizza substory was weird as fuck.

That's one of the very few that actually bothered me.

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Sure he pimped her out, took her Visa so she couldn't leave and recently beat her up, but he feels sorry about it and she agrees to marry him and then they have pizza and laugh? WTF? I worked with victim services with women who had abusive souses who'd take their IDs so they couldn't leave so that one I just was like come on. The pizza guy watching also just what the hell.

Finally beat the game. Man that was a ride, I love Majima.

I still don't get why

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Kiryu and Majima went back to the families after how they were treated.

Guess I need to start playing the other ones in the series.

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Kiryu did because he felt like he had to make up for the trouble he caused, and also because the person he admires most in the world made his way up the Tojo Clan ladder. He wants nothing more than to be like him and also feels like he has this huge debt to repay because the man adopted him. At the same time he has a sense of honor that he wont budge from, and part of that is that he though couldn't narc on Kazama and yet he feels responsible for a lot of the pain that followed from defying orders.

He knows though he couldn't be a civilian also. He solves problems with his violence because it's what he's good at. If he didn't have a code of honor...well he'd be one of the antagonists of Yakuza 2.

Majima's torture isn't as bad as what he puts himself through for how he feels like he wasn't there for Saejima. He yearns to get back into the life because it's the only life he knows and he wants to be there for when Saejima gets out. In the game young Majima always knew being a Yakuza meant not leading a long life, in Y0 he learns to live it loud and crazy because if you're going to live short live it on your own terms.

 

[Hostile_18]

Don't crash.

I know that seems really fucking obvious, but seriously... Even if you have to brake severely and gear down.

Be gentle with the analog stick.

Be wary when going over crests/hills and be prepared to brake.

Also as someone quite helpfully said earlier in thread, gear up at about 140km/h for the best speed boost.

Good luck!

Thank you, I'll need it lol.

I take it Analogue is better than D pad for this one? (Space Harrier I find so much easier on the D Pad but the turning seems slower on this game).

 

[Hostile_18]

Scratch that I did it and with 8.5 million no less! Thanks for the help

 

[ShadowgeistX]

Try keeping a mental note of which move a girl uses more often. Using its counterhand as your default for the match may work out in terms of getting more consistent victories. My sample size is pretty small, but I think it worked for me. It prevented Fransisca and Momoka from getting more hairline fucking victories against my Jennifer (for the most part?).

This worked for me during the real estate portion. Also you can read the girls' status/mood in the scrolling text at the bottom before choosing one. Even with high physical stats, their mood (or whatever you want to call it) can cause them to lose. A better mood gives you better defense and much better chances of super effective/critical attacks.

Catfight still sucks though, lol.

 

[Mazre]

Credits are rolling

Incredible finale, filled with some great fights, drama, and music.

Outstanding game in an outstanding series, really had a huge amount of fun. Bring on Kiwami and 6

 

[tiebreaker]

The destiny calls substory is freakin hilarious.

 

[Harmen]

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I thought it wasn't very romanticized compared to almost all previous titles. We've got Yakuza kidnapping and selling women as sex slaves, involved in kicking out, beating, willing to kill or just to ruin the lives of those not willing to sell them property. Torture not only of other Yakuza just for not following orders (with the idea that Majima wasn't the first and that it was a regular thing) to having a guy around for that kind of thing because he's good at inflicting pain. Lots of stuff about loan sharking, including Kiryu opening the game with being 'loaned out' to beat a guy unconscious for not paying back his loans. You've got all the lieutenants internally fighting and willing to throw different live away just to get ahead and who detail some of the stuff they've done. Lot's of talk about how the man Kiryu admired the most also killed a ton of people to get to where he is.

I thought this game did almost too good of a job with showing that Kiryu was an exception to the rest, to the point where a lot of 'at least he never killed anyone' seemed kind of dumb because he certainly supports and is a part of a system that does murder and more.

Well that and the highway sequence, I mean even if somehow none of the people he does heat moves die WTF did they think happened to all those people he shot and the helicopter which crashed?!

Yeah, the

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no kill thing was a bit odd given the highway scene

, I agree. I interpreted that as being different due to circumstances. In

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the highway section he is straight up defending himself and people in the car by neutralizing the threats in the only way possible. In the finale it would've been the execution of a (now) defenseless man where he was having a personal conversation with (or just had one, anyways). In short, in the latter situation he can make a choice. In my opinion there is a pretty big difference between the contexts. But they could've adjusted the dialogue to that, rather than aiming for "once you kill someone, there is no going back" sentiment the finale seemed to have.

Credits are rolling

Incredible finale, filled with some great fights, drama, and music.

Outstanding game in an outstanding series, really had a huge amount of fun. Bring on Kiwami and 6

Just to be sure that you didn't miss them, there are after credit cutscenes.

 

[Nightengale]

Nothing in gameplay is canon.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

so the empty space in the platinum girls list in the cabaret club... do you ever get a last platinum girl to fill it up?

 

[Wheatly]

Just beat the game this weekend. The feels train definitely hit me.

But as someone else mentioned in the previous page

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I don't understand why Majima joined Shimanos family again when he was obviously being played by him / and was tortured by him in the past. I don't feel the game conveyed why Majima wanted to be a Yakuza so damn badly

 

[semiconscious]

it's been said up here already, but, yeah: yuki is absolutely the best! ...

 

[SolVanderlyn]

RC Car Racing is dope as hell

 

[Admiral Woofington]

now I go back to fighting Mr Shakedowns as Majima and after experiencing Kiryu with spicy knife, I feel weaker.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Why is this Cabaret Club game so much fun and why does the dress up portion make me realize I'm single as fuck lol. Grown ass 26 year old man playing Cabaret Girls Dress Up Party.

So Kawaii

 

[xezuru]

All of my cabaret are the classiest can be while maintaining max stats. Ai is probably my favorite but she's basically another character after makeover hue.