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Yakuza KIWAMI |OT| Translator's Note: "KIWAMI" means "EXTREME"

Alright . I paid for this day one to support Sega but am now free to get to it. Consensus here is it's a good time?

Concerned about burnout after pumping many hours into 0 but whatever.

It's good, but not as good as Zero.

The game has a few crazy additions in its combat that makes it really interesting but the Hard difficulty is unfairly hard until you manage to buy most of the upgrades. So you might wanna play this on Normal.
 
It's good, but not as good as Zero.

The game has a few crazy additions in its combat that makes it really interesting but the Hard difficulty is unfairly hard until you manage to buy most of the upgrades. So you might wanna play this on Normal.

Everyone keeps saying it's not as good as 0, but I'm enjoying it just as much if not more. I like the tighter, more focused setting and story. I'm also appreciative that upgrades aren't tied to money, so I don't have to grind real estate/cabaret for upgrades.

The combat is way more difficult than 0 though.
 

sotojuan

Member
Kind of. There are certain patterns that some players do follow. But it's WAY more lenient than that Cat Fighting game in Y0, which is RNG and totally unfair RNG at that.

Do you know Majima's pattern? I guess I can pick it up by playing him a few times.
 
Everyone keeps saying it's not as good as 0, but I'm enjoying it just as much if not more. I like the tighter, more focused setting and story. I'm also appreciative that upgrades aren't tied to money, so I don't have to grind real estate/cabaret for upgrades.

This is pretty much how I feel. I like how it's focused on one character this time. In 0, the game kept switching leads on me just when I started to feel like I was making progress. It got to a point where I wasn't even sure I was going to buy Kiwami because I was feeling burnt out by the time I finished 0.
 
Everyone keeps saying it's not as good as 0, but I'm enjoying it just as much if not more. I like the tighter, more focused setting and story. I'm also appreciative that upgrades aren't tied to money, so I don't have to grind real estate/cabaret for upgrades.

The combat is way more difficult than 0 though.
It has lesser contents, the story/twists are much more easier to predict, the pacing is way inferior to Zero, the enemy balancing is worse than Zero (at least on hard) and the composition of cutscenes are literally copy/pasted from the 2005 version. (which at times feel very outdated)

It's a good game and you can totally love it. But it shouldn't be hard to see why most people are liking it way less than Zero.
 

Aenima

Member
Kind of. There are certain patterns that some players do follow. But it's WAY more lenient than that Cat Fighting game in Y0, which is RNG and totally unfair RNG at that.

My only problem with the 0 version was the button mashing mechanic. I hated it, and as soon i got the trophy for that minigame i dont touched it again. The Mesuking is a much more interesting version with the skill customisation and without the button mashing.
 
Everyone keeps saying it's not as good as 0, but I'm enjoying it just as much if not more. I like the tighter, more focused setting and story. I'm also appreciative that upgrades aren't tied to money, so I don't have to grind real estate/cabaret for upgrades.

The combat is way more difficult than 0 though.

This is how I feel about it, as well. I'm going through Kiwami just like, "Shame on everyone who says 0 is the better game."

I got exhausted jumping back and forth between Kiryu and Majima in 0, though. I prefer the style of 4&5 where you play a character's campaign to completion before moving onto the next. I get why 0 was set up the way it was, though, due to the story.
 
This is how I feel about it, as well. I'm going through Kiwami just like, "Shame on everyone who says 0 is the better game."

I got exhausted jumping back and forth between Kiryu and Majima in 0, though. I prefer the style of 4&5 where you play a character's campaign to completion before moving onto the next. I get why 0 was set up the way it was, though, due to the story.

I can see the appeal of a complete 1-character campaign, the first character switch, where you basically re-learn everything can be really exhausting until it picks up again, but I vastly prefered 0's approach to 4 and 5's. In 0 you can pace your story/sidequest ratio much better since you know when you switch characters, it's never for long. In 4 and 5 I always had a hard time jumping to the next scenario and forced myself to finish as much sidequests as possible at once because I knew I wouldn't be able to come back until the end of the game.

Also, switching between the same characters every few chapters makes it easier to memorize their movesets.
 

Mesharey

Member
I'm in the final chapter, finished all the side quests that are available when I use that item, now the map is empty, but I'm still missing like 20 quests.. weird, no idea how to get the rest.

I didn't do the racing, bowling and Mesuking quests yet.
 
I'm in the final chapter, finished all the side quests that are available when I use that item, now the map is empty, but I'm still missing like 20 quests.. weird, no idea how to get the rest.

I didn't do the racing, bowling and Mesuking quests yet.

Mesuking is 7 of them. Komaki Training in West Park is a bunch too
 

I3rand0

Member
I think I hit a bug.
Majima isn’t triggering at club shine.

I go in, and the only thing I can do is rina.
I also got the text for the magazine one. And that isn’t triggering either

I'm having the same issue with the Club Shrine encounter. I think it's bugged too.
 
I'm having the same issue with the Club Shrine encounter. I think it's bugged too.

You have to be ready to move up from E to D rank with him. I had the same issue, looked it up, and it's just a weird bug where you get the text message way earlier than you ought to. Go fight him some more until the E meter is maxed.
 
I'm kinda confused by the cutscene at the beginning of chapter 8.
Why did the doctor run? From what I understood, the doctor asked Nishiki for the 30 mill to pay off his debts, but he apparently got the money from somewhere else and then ran after giving it to Nishikis subordinate? I don't see why he ran though.
 

hyp

Member
talk about distracting,
the "Trouble Finder" accessory makes progressing through the main story slowwwww. it shows [!] on the map indicating subs and street drama you can meddle in.
it's just too fun to get involved in the random shit that goes on in this world.
 
I'm kinda confused by the cutscene at the beginning of chapter 8.
Why did the doctor run? From what I understood, the doctor asked Nishiki for the 30 mill to pay off his debts, but he apparently got the money from somewhere else and then ran after giving it to Nishikis subordinate? I don't see why he ran though.
Because he
promised an obvious Yakuza member that he would get his sister an organ for 30 mil but he was lying.

Naturally Nishikii's gonna cut the lungs out of him if it turned out that he was lying so he just bolted after clearing his debts (which ironically turned out to be to Nishikii indirectly).
 
Was there any significance to the girl in the match selling quest? Her character model was noticably more detailed than the other sidequest characters, she had a full first and last name and even the fade out and fade in at the start and end of the quest was different than usual.

Since she gave you the celebrity perfume I assume she's a real-life non-AV celebrity cameo?
 
Was there any significance to the girl in the match selling quest? Her character model was noticably more detailed than the other sidequest characters, she had a full first and last name and even the fade out and fade in at the start and end of the quest was different than usual.

Since she gave you the celebrity perfume I assume she's a real-life non-AV celebrity cameo?
I dunno but the "girl selling matches" is a substory that also happens in other Yakuza games too. I remember Saejima in Y5 having a quest, and there also being a quest like that in one or two of the other games.

I think the devs just REALLY like that story.
 
Because he
promised an obvious Yakuza member that he would get his sister an organ for 30 mil but he was lying.

Naturally Nishikii's gonna cut the lungs out of him if it turned out that he was lying so he just bolted after clearing his debts (which ironically turned out to be to Nishikii indirectly).

Ahhh ok, thanks.
It didn't occur to me that the doctor perceived Nishiki to be a threat, and would run from him.
 
Holy fuck that fight in club
Debola against the two gang member bosses
was some hot garbage. Why did they make the boss fights in this game 10x more tedious than 0? That was the worst one yet.
 
I dunno but the "girl selling matches" is a substory that also happens in other Yakuza games too. I remember Saejima in Y5 having a quest, and there also being a quest like that in one or two of the other games.

I think the devs just REALLY like that story.
Yeah, I remember that one as well. Nagoshi must love that story xD
 

hamchan

Member
Game done. Enjoyed it. I can see totally see the remnants of it being the first game in the series with some of the tedious boss battles (
Shimano and Jingu omg so frustrating
) and parts in the main story that would be the equivalent of side quests in latter games, like Date's and the Florist's son sections. Still, it was a good time to revisit a story I went through a decade ago and as a follow up chapter to 0 it worked super well.

Also lol @ Haruka and Kiryu
abandoning the dog at the end. WTF guys!

I've probably put 500 hours into this series so far. I feel I can play these games for as long as they can keep pumping them out.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Can't imagine caring about the last fight so much if I had not played 0 before. They didn't give that much time for Kyriu and Nishi to be bros in this one.

Agreed. Having played 0 before this, a lot
of the deaths in this one hit far harder than they would have otherwise, Reina, Nishiki, and Kazama specifically. Just finished the game and I still feel terrible about Nishiki. Guy just wanted to be respected, and it was incredibly hard to get that when you're always in Kiryu's shadow.
 

xclk07

Member
There are only 2 spawn points for Thug Majima to enter into a fight, right? I can NOT get this bastard to appear. Got the other 3, but not the Thug Majima.
 

jdstorm

Banned
You have to be ready to move up from E to D rank with him. I had the same issue, looked it up, and it's just a weird bug where you get the text message way earlier than you ought to. Go fight him some more until the E meter is maxed.

Where do you find Majima if you got the bugs? For me he hasn't shown up in a really long time.
 

sotojuan

Member
Any decent substories guides out there? I've been spoiled by CyricZ's Yakuza 0 guide on GameFAQs. Figured I'd go for most of the substory and Majima trophies.
 
so i need help here about majima, here's my questions :

- where does he hide himeself for the last battle? "settle the score with majima"

- how do i trigger more fight in mesuking minigame with him? (did three with pocket fighter, was excepting the same considering the dialogue at the end of the first fight)

- i'm missing some abilitiies hidden under nishida's email... but i already did all the one he sent to me, and he's not sending new ones (considering my first question, i'm obviously rank SSS)

- How can i trigger Idol Majima? Since i beat him once, he should now appear in the streets, but that's never the case
 
I don't know why but I just don't have that same drive to finish Kiwami as I've had for literally all other Yakuza games.

The Majima everywhere system is wayyy too annoying if you want the full DoD style.

I didn't enjoy Pocket Racing in the first one, don't here either. There aren't really that many side acitivites to play.

I think I'm just gonna power through the main story and call it a day. Maybe I'll come back to do the Amon fight in a few weeks.
 

alt27

Member
Kind of. There are certain patterns that some players do follow. But it's WAY more lenient than that Cat Fighting game in Y0, which is RNG and totally unfair RNG at that.

I completed all the mesuking, was a good laugh .

The opponents generally have patterns on what they will pick . Pretty easy to pick up on . Much easier than Y0 cat fighting
 

xclk07

Member
so i need help here about majima, here's my questions
- where does he hide himeself for the last battle? "settle the score with maxima"

Batting Center.

- how do i trigger more fight in mesuking minigame with him? (did three with pocket fighter, was excepting the same considering the dialogue at the end of the first fight)

Have to beat Idol Majima twice... it's the end point of the Rank S path upgrades

- i'm missing some abilitiies hidden under nishida's email... but i already did all the one he sent to me, and he's not sending new ones (considering my first question, i'm obviously rank SSS)

There's a video which spells out all the email locations here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCLtplwW6ig

- How can i trigger Idol Majima? Since i beat him once, he should now appear in the streets, but that's never the case

These are rnd street encounters - I'm not "sure" that one is more likely to find the difft. versions of Majima near where you had the rank up battles, but that has seemed to be the case for me. So, NW side for Idol Majima.
 
- where does he hide himeself for the last battle? "settle the score with maxima"

Batting Center.

- how do i trigger more fight in mesuking minigame with him? (did three with pocket fighter, was excepting the same considering the dialogue at the end of the first fight)

Have to beat Idol Majima twice... it's the end point of the Rank S path upgrades

- i'm missing some abilitiies hidden under nishida's email... but i already did all the one he sent to me, and he's not sending new ones (considering my first question, i'm obviously rank SSS)

There's a video which spells out all the email locations here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCLtplwW6ig

- How can i trigger Idol Majima? Since i beat him once, he should now appear in the streets, but that's never the case

These are rnd street encounters - I'm not "sure" that one is more likely to find the difft. versions of Majima near where you had the rank up battles, but that has seemed to be the case for me. So, NW side for Idol Majima.

thanks a lot! Guess i just need to be lucky to encounter idol majima! Also weird, i was at the batting center yesterday but nothing happened for the "settle the score", do i need to launch a baseball minigame?
 

xclk07

Member
thanks a lot! Guess i just need to be lucky to encounter idol majima! Also weird, i was at the batting center yesterday but nothing happened for the "settle the score", do i need to launch a baseball minigame?

No... I'm not there yet, but the vid I saw, he's waiting there for you and you have to go and speak to him.
 

Rizzi

Member
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Hell yeah.

I didn't even get a trophy or anything for it. ;_;
 

jdstorm

Banned
Is Mesuking just complete luck?

Agree with others.

Sort of.

Most opponants have 1 incredibly strong ability so just pick a character with more health and then pick the same ability as your opponants strength. Eventually you will get a good hit on them and win.
 
okay is there any trick to get
Zombie Majima
to spawn or something

cause i would really like the move you get from beating him ASAP
 

Shanaynay

Member
Chapter 8:
another shit boss, this time those 2 brothers in Debolah, those bosses are getting old real fast.
at least i won without death but it was just frustrating.

I think it's the first time in the serie where i'm not looking forward to future bosses.
 

xclk07

Member
okay is there any trick to get
Zombie Majima
to spawn or something

cause i would really like the move you get from beating him ASAP

It's a rank up battle the first time... I forget which... D maybe? So you have to fill the Majima gauge up and then you'll get a call.
 
Today in "Don Draper's Hat Asks a Silly Question That No Doubt Requires a Simple Answer":

Where can I get a wooden katana?

The weapon guy in the adult shop doesn't sell them.
 
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