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Yakuza KIWAMI |OT| Translator's Note: "KIWAMI" means "EXTREME"

sotojuan

Member
Has anyone beaten all Majima Pocket Races? Specifically Goro-kun's Super Speedway, he boosts at the last minute and if I try to I fly off the track.
 

Chesskid1

Banned
just finished, really liked it overall.

will prolly get all the easy trophies i have left in the future. doubt i will ever plat a yakuza game.

yakuza 3 is in the mail and i'll start that next. i actually imported the UK version since it was the same price and came with a bonus CD, so it'll prolly be 2 weeks or so before it arrives, enough time for a little break from yakuza.

really sucks i can't play yakuza 2 now but i don't wanna wait.
 

Opa-Pa

Member
Does anybody know where Shinohara goes if you decline his coliseum challenge? I wasn't in the mood when he asked, but now I can't find him.
 
Just got to chapter 6. So fucking good. Beat Majima and now I should settle in a second and buy some upgrades . Forgot to do that yet lol

Story and characters are so good. It really does feel different even after coming off if zero. No burnout here.

Question: I also haven't spent any CP. Any suggestions on what the gear in battle do? I'm inclined to buy the other column stuff (run longer etc?
 

jdstorm

Banned
Just got to chapter 6. So fucking good. Beat Majima and now I should settle in a second and buy some upgrades . Forgot to do that yet lol

Story and characters are so good. It really does feel different even after coming off if zero. No burnout here.

Question: I also haven't spent any CP. Any suggestions on what the gear in battle do? I'm inclined to buy the other column stuff (run longer etc?

The Battle tree gives you some of the best gear i would recomend leveling up to at least the Dragon shirt primarily because the gear from that tree gives you extra experience by the gear you wear which helps with levelling up abilities quicker.

On the other tree, Endless Stomach is the most useful ability. The stamina/running is OK but level 2 or 3 running is more then enough.
 

dimmer

Member
Just got to chapter 6. So fucking good. Beat Majima and now I should settle in a second and buy some upgrades . Forgot to do that yet lol

Story and characters are so good. It really does feel different even after coming off if zero. No burnout here.

Question: I also haven't spent any CP. Any suggestions on what the gear in battle do? I'm inclined to buy the other column stuff (run longer etc?

I first completed the left column and then the right and i was fine. There is plenty of EXP to be collected in this game,so dont worry about that. I would advice take the first two from the left column then take up to the yakuza training gear(second item of the right column) and then go all the way down from the left
 

Yu Narukami

Member
Sorry for asking this here. Does 3 spoil Kiwami 2? I'm asking because I may buy 3 after this. Will I understand the beginning of 3 if I don't know the ending of 2?
 
Why wasn't
Yumi
in 0? I feel like that's a pretty big oversight :/
She was supposed to be in it but they changed her mind for some reason.

Remember the female doctor at the end with the INCREDIBLY detailed face? I believe that was supposed to be the female face for Yumi but they just didn't include her in that game for whatever reason.
 
The Battle tree gives you some of the best gear i would recomend leveling up to at least the Dragon shirt primarily because the gear from that tree gives you extra experience by the gear you wear which helps with levelling up abilities quicker.

On the other tree, Endless Stomach is the most useful ability. The stamina/running is OK but level 2 or 3 running is more then enough.

Excellent. Thank you.

Sorry for asking this here. Does 3 spoil Kiwami 2? I'm asking because I may buy 3 after this. Will I understand the beginning of 3 if I don't know the ending of 2?

Yes. 3 is it's own self contained story
 

aravuus

Member
I don't really see how the endless stomach thing is a very useful ability at all. Just get the trouble finder on the left column (it displays side quests on the map) then focus on the battle bonuses.
 
I don't really see how the endless stomach thing is a very useful ability at all. Just get the trouble finder on the left column (it displays side quests on the map) then focus on the battle bonuses.
Eating everything available at an eatery gives you 1 CP point. This makes that less of a grind.
 

aravuus

Member
Eating everything available at an eatery gives you 1 CP point. This makes that less of a grind.

Yeah, but if you're eating everywhere for the CP, it's gonna cost you much more to get the ability than what you'll ever get from the diner completion list entries.
 

ST2K

Member
Well, I wrapped up Kiwami. Not as good as 0, but still solid fun.

Now I have to figure out where to go from here. Yakuza 0 was my first game in the series. I don't have a PS3, so I can't play 3-5. Kiwami 2 probably isn't coming until after 6... I don't know what I should do at this point.
 
Yeah, but if you're eating everywhere for the CP, it's gonna cost you much more to get the ability than what you'll ever get from the diner completion list entries.

Useful for the Platinum I suppose. Not much else.

In Yakuza 4 and 5, you can get health beyond just your first health bar as well as different status buffs so eating a lot was useful there.
Well, I wrapped up Kiwami. Not as good as 0, but still solid fun.

Now I have to figure out where to go from here. Yakuza 0 was my first game in the series. I don't have a PS3, so I can't play 3-5. Kiwami 2 probably isn't coming until after 6... I don't know what I should do at this point.
Pray to Nagoshi DA GAWD for a remaster of 3,4 and 5 on the PS4.

Else you just wait for Kiwami 2 then move on to Y6 I guess.
 

ST2K

Member
Pray to Nagoshi DA GAWD for a remaster of 3,4 and 5 on the PS4.

Else you just wait for Kiwami 2 then move on to Y6 I guess.

I get the feeling I'll miss a shit ton if I jump from 2 (or Kiwami) to 6, so... I don't know about that.

I seem to recall Sega saying they wanted to port the series to PC. I wonder if that's a more likely possibility for folks to play those games any time soon.
 
I get the feeling I'll miss a shit ton if I jump from 2 (or Kiwami) to 6, so... I don't know about that.

I seem to recall Sega saying they wanted to port the series to PC. I wonder if that's a more likely possibility for folks to play those games any time soon.
With how much a rift there often is between different branches of the same company, it wouldn't surprise me if SEGA EU/SEGA US is up for that but SEGA JP isn't.

Honestly, I wouldn't expect a PC release for this series so soon.

And yes, you will miss out on stuff when Yakuza 6 releases but to be honest, it's only going to affect your enjoyment of the beginning of the game then it's back to being a mainly standalone story with almost entirely new characters.
 

Vorheez

Member
She is younger than both of them by a few years, so she's presumably still at the orphanage in 0? I agree it's an oversight tho.

She was supposed to be in it but they changed her mind for some reason.

Remember the female doctor at the end with the INCREDIBLY detailed face? I believe that was supposed to be the female face for Yumi but they just didn't include her in that game for whatever reason.
Ah really? That's disappointing... the story would have been far more impactful if we had already spent an entire game with Yumi as a character.
 
so stupid it saves twice everytime u save

I don't care about the double save one bit, but you know what makes me unreasonably mad?

In 0 you could skip the title screen before the full title logo even appeared.

In Kiwami you have to wait like 2-3 seconds after the "Press Any Button" prompt appeared before you can skip the title screen. It's less snappy than before!!
 

Mesharey

Member
Ah really? That's disappointing... the story would have been far more impactful if we had already spent an entire game with Yumi as a character.
I remember they mentioned her like once or twice, but yeah they should've added her, 0 was my first one too.
 
Why wasn't
Yumi
in 0? I feel like that's a pretty big oversight :/

The whole Yumi thing just irritates me. Even as late as Yakuza 6, the series tries to push the whole, "Yumi was the only woman that Kiryu ever loved" shtick, but the writing itself steps on it constantly. No Yumi in 0, the ability to get Kiryu laid in 1/Kiwami and Kiryu's downright eagerness to do so, Kaoru's whole existence in 2... Like, at a certain point, it just gets goddamn ridiculous. Kiryu and Yumi might be the most unbelievable piece of schlock romance plot I've seen in games, just because of the way the rest of the canon treats it.
 

Zalman

Member
I just finished the game. Here's my perspective as someone who has only played Yakuza 0. Big spoilers, of course:

God damn I'm surprised by how many characters they killed off. Reina, Kazama and Nishiki all felt like "main cast" characters to me that would be a big part of the series going forward. I guess they could still be in some way, but it was shocking to see them all go. I'm a little sad about it, to be honest. I loved all of them. Even Yumi, I really wanted her to live on. (Weird that she wasn't in 0 though.) I guess having this many likeable characters is a testament to the storytelling in this series.

One thing I will say is that I'm disappointed in what Majima has turned into. I can't imagine how weird it must have been to have been a long-time fan and then played Yakuza 0. Majima's character is completely different there, and personally I much preferred him that way. Maybe it's because I played 0 first, I really don't know what the general consensus is here, but that's just my take.

Overall I really loved the game, but I do think 0 is better as it picks up much earlier than 1 does. I think it was around chapter 9 where I really got into it. Still, it's a great game and I can't wait for Kiwami 2.
 

Mesharey

Member
^

I totally agree with you, specially about Majima, he's way different here, I loved him in 0.

That reminds me, I have all the remaining sequels 3, 4, 5 and even Dead Souls (because my sisters plays them) but I'm not sure if I should play 3 or wait.
 
Yakuza 1 Majima is a bit of a weird place because this is the only point in the story where he's involved
with "the bad guys".

Rest of the series, he's a frenemy to Kiryu. Wants to save his life and help him when he's in trouble but takes every opportunity he can to fight him 1-on-1 and stab him in the guy. It can be argued that before his sworn brother comes out of jail, Kiryu's the best friend he has.

He became a
fan-favourite after Y1 so they kept him in but decided to make him more of a hero rather than an anti-hero.
Culminating with his ultimate good guy situation in Y0.
 
The thing with Majima in 0 that I guess a lot of people didn't pick up on was the fact that he was very, very uncomfortable with the role he played in 0. The whole point of his story was that he was keeping his head down and doing what he was supposed to, and he hated it because that wasn't who he was or what he ever wanted. Personally, I thought 0 made it pretty clear that Majima's behavior for most of the game was just an act that he was putting on so that he could get back into the family, but I guess not.

Maybe it's just because I did go into 0 with context from 4 and 5, though. It's not like Majima was completely stable before the
Ueno Seiwa hit
, after all, so it's not right to say that he just snapped/stopped giving a fuck after 0. The dude was already murderous long before 0.
 

crimilde

Banned
So I finished the game a couple of days ago and while I enjoyed it a lot, overall I loved 0 way more. The game is still very good though, even with its frustrating parts. I really came to love the series for everything that it offers.

I'll be continuing 5 now where I left it off ("I'll Yakuza all day, every day and not even care.").

Come March, after 6 gets released, 2 and 3 will be the only ones that I haven't played.
 
Maybe it's just because I did go into 0 with context from 4 and 5, though. It's not like Majima was completely stable before the
Ueno Seiwa hit
, after all, so it's not right to say that he just snapped/stopped giving a fuck after 0. The dude was already murderous long before 0.

The story hints to Majima not having killed anyone before 0. That means the Ueno Seiwa hit was supposed to be the first time he killed anyone, and then Makimura Makoto was supposed to be his first kill.

He was never very stable, but I'd say something definitely "broke" (or got released) inside Majima by the end of 0.
 
So it doesn't immediately start off where 2 finished?

It does. But here's all you need to know going into 3:

Kiryu had a fling with a lady cop in 2. She exits the picture almost immediately after 3 starts, so nothing beyond that one simple detail is important.

The guy that succeeded Kiryu (Y1/Kiwami spoilers)
as chairman of the Tojo Clan
sucked.

That's it.

If you played 0, you should already know about Daigo's existence, so it shouldn't come as a huge shock when you see him in 3 and the role he'll occupy. 2 was largely about putting him there, but now that 0 introduces Daigo's character as opposed to 2, it doesn't really matter so much.
 

danmaku

Member
The thing with Majima in 0 that I guess a lot of people didn't pick up on was the fact that he was very, very uncomfortable with the role he played in 0. The whole point of his story was that he was keeping his head down and doing what he was supposed to, and he hated it because that wasn't who he was or what he ever wanted. Personally, I thought 0 made it pretty clear that Majima's behavior for most of the game was just an act that he was putting on so that he could get back into the family, but I guess not.

Maybe it's just because I did go into 0 with context from 4 and 5, though. It's not like Majima was completely stable before the
Ueno Seiwa hit
, after all, so it's not right to say that he just snapped/stopped giving a fuck after 0. The dude was already murderous long before 0.

In 0 it's obvious that he's kept as a prisoner and he hates the situation, but it's not obvious that he's batshit insane. Especially if you play the entire cabaret club storyline, he looks like a good guy, beloved by everyone, and there's no clue that he's faking everything (and he has no reason to do so). Also, in 0 he flat out says he hasn't killed anyone before and it's a big plot point.
 
Well, I wrapped up Kiwami. Not as good as 0, but still solid fun.

Now I have to figure out where to go from here. Yakuza 0 was my first game in the series. I don't have a PS3, so I can't play 3-5. Kiwami 2 probably isn't coming until after 6... I don't know what I should do at this point.
I'm in a similar boat though I haven't played 0 yet as I'm finishing off another game. I think my plan will be to buy 6 at launch but not play it and wait for Kiwami 2.
 
In 0 it's obvious that he's kept as a prisoner and he hates the situation, but it's not obvious that he's batshit insane. Especially if you play the entire cabaret club storyline, he looks like a good guy, beloved by everyone, and there's no clue that he's faking everything (and he has no reason to do so). Also, in 0 he flat out says he hasn't killed anyone before and it's a big plot point.

I guess. Like I said, my perspective has probably been colored by the fact that I went in with context from 4 and 5. Even if he hadn't yet actually pulled the trigger in 0, the fact that he was so ready, willing, and even
had a huge plan set up to do so against 18 dudes
just made me kind of look at him and 0 and go, "this is a front."
 

Yu Narukami

Member
It does. But here's all you need to know going into 3:

Kiryu had a fling with a lady cop in 2. She exits the picture almost immediately after 3 starts, so nothing beyond that one simple detail is important.

The guy that succeeded Kiryu (Y1/Kiwami spoilers)
as chairman of the Tojo Clan
sucked.

That's it.

If you played 0, you should already know about Daigo's existence, so it shouldn't come as a huge shock when you see him in 3 and the role he'll occupy. 2 was largely about putting him there, but now that 0 introduces Daigo's character as opposed to 2, it doesn't really matter so much.
Thanks for the explanation. I wish I hadn't read your spoiler before you edited but it's rather minor so it's ok.
 

Opa-Pa

Member
In Y4, I think it's implied that he enjoyed fighting and the general yakuza lifestyle, but I don't think Majima was the same maniac before that mission. The game is very clear in that
both him and Saejima lament their mission, but are ready to see it through despite the consequences.

He's clearly restraining himself in 0, and you can see glimpses of his sadism (just hear him laugh in excitement as he fights lol), but he's still a collected, fairly reasonable and sensitive guy. I think those are the cores of his personality, and what we see post 0 most of the time is the actual front and an exaggeration of his love for fighting, because we clearly see him being dependable and caring when it counts... He just really, REALLY likes fighting.

Even in Dead Souls we see him getting flustered and embarrassed around children that show kindness to him, and in 5
he'd rather fight his brother to death than put Haruka in danger
. That's definitely the same Majima we see in 0, IMO. I think the only oddball is his role in the original Y1 and that's because he wasn't really meant to be a major character going forward.
 
Looks like you're missing these

35 Kestrel Punch - Check around the hotel district
55 Double Drop - Pink Street North
59 Back Fist - Underground District

19 will pop eventually

found the double drop and kestrel punch, thanks!

But i was mistaken, i'm missing the last one, card 60, not 59! Also still nothing for 19, are you sure doing the same opponent will work?
 
I got a question, and this is a Yakuza 3 spoiler.

They refer to Kazama as Shintaro Fuma, why is that?

Keep in mind I haven't played 2, since I am waiting for Kiwami 2.
 
I got a question, and this is a Yakuza 3 spoiler.

They refer to Kazama as Shintaro Fuma, why is that?

Keep in mind I haven't played 2, since I am waiting for Kiwami 2.
The localization was pretty stupid back then.

They changed names, removed content (Hostesses).

Fortunately they wisened up from Yakuza 4 onwards. Just know that they're talking about Kazama when they say Fuma.

By the way, you should participate in the yakuza community thread if you want to talk about stuff like that. This is the Kiwami OT after all.
 
The localization was pretty stupid back then.

They changed names, removed content (Hostesses).

Fortunately they wisened up from Yakuza 4 onwards. Just know that they're talking about Kazama when they say Fuma.

By the way, you should participate in the yakuza community thread if you want to talk about stuff like that. This is the Kiwami OT after all.
Alright, thanks. I am just afraid of going into community threads because of spoilers.
 
We usually make it a rule to spoiler anything serious, but if you have questions it's worth popping into from time to time since the Yakuza 3 OT isn't a thing lol.
 

Ludens

Banned
I don't understand why sometimes I can hear Majima calling Kiryu, but I can't see him. He is not hidden, on the radar I have nothing, how can I find him? I'm rank B.
 
She is younger than both of them by a few years, so she's presumably still at the orphanage in 0? I agree it's an oversight tho.

There's one throwaway line about her in 0 - Kiryu and Nishiki mentions that "she's still in school". That's all there has been as far as mentions of Yumi goes :(
 
I don't understand why sometimes I can hear Majima calling Kiryu, but I can't see him. He is not hidden, on the radar I have nothing, how can I find him? I'm rank B.
That means he's hiding somewhere or that his fight can be triggered nearby.

He's either hiding in a big traffic cone that'll be shaking, under a manhole, under a trashcan or some punk will start a fight with you and then he'll show up mid way (These punks start a dialogue with you before the fight starts, and they walk alone)
 
I have a feeling that they may have thought Yakuza 1 was already so focused on the relationship between Kiryu-Nishki-Yumi. So in the prequel, they chose to focus solely relationship between Kiryu and Nishki.
 
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