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Approach her right after class and ask her something about said class. Then transition that into another conversation. Don't worry about the fact that she might have a boyfriend because first it doesnt matter until you ask her out and second if she isnt interested in you she probally would say that she has a boyfriend even if she is single.
 
What did people do before Myspace? How did they find out if someone was in a relationship?

Those must have been the dark ages.
 
DevilWillcry said:
Secondly, I don't even know if this girl has a boyfriend. I even tried to look her up on Myspace to see if she has a boyfriend (I know it's creepy, and I felt dirty for doing it), but I don't even think she has a Myspace. I've casually listened in on a few of her conversations in class and she never seems to mention anything about a boyfriend. But then again, I don't feel like I've heard enough of her conversations to be sure. She's very good looking and thus likely to have a boyfriend, so I'd like to be sure before I even try talking to her. Is there a way to know for sure that she has a boyfriend before I embarrass myself?

Just because she has a boyfriend doesn't mean that she will admit it to you in conversation. Sorry. Welcome to girls.
Finally, I don't think she knows I exist. I'm a pretty reserved guy and I generally only talk in lecture when I'm asked to. I also get some mild social anxiety when approaching and talking to new people, so I guess I'm a little "shy". As you can imagine, this type of attitude makes me pretty much invisible. I'm not a bad looking guy and I'm pretty good at establishing solid connections once the conversation has started. The Problem is: how do I approach this girl without looking like an idiot?

If she thinks you're cute, she knows you exist even if you haven't noticed her noticing. Girls tend to be more subtle with that stuff.
 
Wii said:
If she touches her knee with her elbow, you're golden!


If she bites her bottom lip, touches her nose, and rubs her belly, it means you're game.

And don't put the pussy on a pedestal, which means (I think) that the only difference between this girl being a friend and being a girlfriend is you having sex with her. So don't put that part "on a pedestal" you know how to make friends with people? Do that and take it from there.
 
Sit down behind her, squeeze her arm and say "excuse me, you are fucking awesome. We should grab lunch after this". Make sure you make good eye contact and you are golden.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
It means stop acting like women are a totally different species. They're human. They fart, they burp, they shit. Lots of guy assume that attractive girls only go for certain guys, so they shoot themselves down before they've even taken off.
That's... irrelevant? I still don't 'get' it.

Would you think it was rude if some random girl started up a conversation with you? Your average girl (even with a boyfriend) isn't going to be offended that you made some small talk.
But no random girl has ever started up a conversation with me. I don't even know what "small talk" is. I spent too many goddamn years of my life purposely avoiding useless conversation and now it turns out it's what I need! Even with a group of friends I rarely talk. Got nothing to say.

I don't know, I worked in retail toy store for a couple years. So I had to make small talk with hundreds of people a week. 99% of people like talking about themselves or something they've done, so they'll rarely turn down the chance to talk about it.
It's an entirely different situation though. For example I'm night and day when I'm teaching class and when I'm talking with my students outside of class. Something gets triggered inside my head in these situations and I can't just go and say "Act like this." whenever I want. Working at Toys R Us for a couple of years made me comfortable talking to people when I'm working retail. Talking to people in other situations is an entirely different case and the former doesn't apply at all.
 
DevilWillcry said:
I have this pesky girl problem that I'm hoping GAF can help me with. There is this girl in my psychology class that I'm attracted to. I'd like to approach her and talk to her but there are a few problems that I feel are preventing that:

First of all, I don't know where to approach her. I think she has another class right after psychology and then she leaves, so I can't catch her in the student lounge. I suppose I could talk to her before class begins, but it would just seem so awkward to talk to her and possibly ask her out in front of other people in the class (I could get rejected, and then psychology class would be awkward for the rest of the semester). Would it be rude to stop her and talk to her in the hallway after class?

Secondly, I don't even know if this girl has a boyfriend. I even tried to look her up on Myspace to see if she has a boyfriend (I know it's creepy, and I felt dirty for doing it), but I don't even think she has a Myspace. I've casually listened in on a few of her conversations in class and she never seems to mention anything about a boyfriend. But then again, I don't feel like I've heard enough of her conversations to be sure. She's very good looking and thus likely to have a boyfriend, so I'd like to be sure before I even try talking to her. Is there a way to know for sure that she has a boyfriend before I embarrass myself?

Finally, I don't think she knows I exist. I'm a pretty reserved guy and I generally only talk in lecture when I'm asked to. I also get some mild social anxiety when approaching and talking to new people, so I guess I'm a little "shy". As you can imagine, this type of attitude makes me pretty much invisible. I'm not a bad looking guy and I'm pretty good at establishing solid connections once the conversation has started. The Problem is: how do I approach this girl without looking like an idiot?




Mannnnnnnnnnn, i always looked up at you as the "big gaffer". Now your just a bitch. You wimp :P


When you think you look like an idiot its cute to most girls. Believe me. When you don't really know what to say i'm sure they already know your not like every other asshole they have been with. Common sense my friend.
 
o god, these threads make me cry, but i gotta chip in.

I've seen good advice so far, but I gotta tell you, you have to, I mean you absolutely have to learn how to take rejection. Like most things, learning how to approach women takes practice and it doesn't seem you've had much. So go ahead, approach her, talk to her about shit you like that you may think she likes. Using something you like makes it comfortable for you to get started and to plug in when she isn't talking. Just don't go talking to her on and on, if you start to bore yourself speaking, you are boring her as well. Again, you are going to get rejected, maybe this time, and the next but you gotta keep trying.

Also, you should look into yourself and establish an inner happiness. When you feel good about yourself, there's nothing holding you back from doing anything you want.
 
Pterion said:
These threads are truly depressing. I'm serious. :(

I always seems to blush when reading them for some reason.

I like you Devil so let us know what happens. What campus is this by the way? If her name is Amy you're fucked.
 
they're depressing for me because they hit close to home.. I can do the small talk friendly nice guy thing but I am too much of a pussy to make a real move. I just don't think I can handle that kind of rejection.

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I have a hard time with the "there's other fish in the sea" thing. When I become fixated on someone I have a hard time thinking of anyone else, especially if they've shown me an interest.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I hear this all the time but it really seems to lack any meaning?
It means don't view women at some unattainable position like they're some sort of higher power you have to approach with perfect behavior, when in fact they are just human beings like yourself.
 
a good topic to bring up is usually tranny porn. First of all, she wont see it coming and second of all you'll be remembered, if she doesnt like u after that... It obviously wasnt meant to be man...
 
Sounds like me a few years back, but college soon sorted that out for me!

Best thing you could do is just if you see her walk past, just say 'Hey, you're from my Psychology class, right?' or if you're on your way to class then say 'Hey, you're in Psychology now, right?' and then just introduce yourself and go from there. Nothing special, just breaking the ice with something that you have in common. That's all you need to do.
 
Just sit next to her and talk to her.

Just take something you noticed about her and comment on it. Any woman worth your time will be able to say something back that you can respond to.

After the initiation steps this strange phenomena starts to happen. It isn't seen very much in nature, but it is a GAFer having a conversation.
 
What I have learned from this thread:
-Don't put the pussy on the pedestal.
-Stop over thinking.
-Don't be too forward.
-Don't drag your feet when asking her out to avoid the friend zone.
-Start with harmless small talk (class, music, appropriate jokes, etc.) and transition into more personal conversations as I get to know her better.
-If things don't "click" with her then bail out (but still talk to her casually).
-Rejection may happen, it's not the end of the world.
-GAF hates Myspace

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the advice. I'm feeling a bit more confident now that I have something that at least resembles a plan. As most of you can tell, I've never been much of a lady's man. I have psychology class tomorrow morning, I'll let you guys know how it goes. Wish me luck :D.
 
Wii said:
Oh man, you have no chance if you're asking GAF.

Tips:
- Quit being a pussy and at least make smalltalk
- Just pretend she does have a boyfriend and drop a joke about it, she'll correct that fact if she wants you.
- Funny and cocky
- FHTUA


Amen!!
 
NeoGAF girl threads always seem to be - "Help, I have no idea how to approach this chick and ask her out" or "I've been going out with my girl for x amount of months/years but y situation just happened"... the threads are never "I just started dating the girl, she seems fairly into me, but I don't know how to take it to the next level"... which is where I ALWAYS find myself.

Anyways, to give my best advice to the OP, since it was something I had trouble with initially when I got to college, but then got over it and always managed to meet at least one girl in my non-CS classes (who ironically enough, always had a b/f)... just try sitting next to her during class and make small talk. If she seems into you, you can ask her for coffee or something, but if she mentions a b/f, don't worry about it, just keep acting casual to her (don't just ignore her, that looks weird!)
 
Approach her with another girl who is a friend of yours or something, if possible. Just say whats up and ask her how she is doing in the class or what she think of the class or something? fuck, I dunno..thats the easy part.. the point is, she will probably assume the girl you're with is your GF and will take a lot of the pressure off of you.

Whether or not she has a boyfriend is pretty irrelevant. I just assume all girls have a BF or "some guy they are seeing" because its usually true. If she isn't interested she will obviously have "some guy she is seeing".
 
Sit next to her and make a joke about the teacher. If she laughs you'll know there's a chance. Ask her if she wants to do a study session with you, like in the school cafe. Then, ask if she wants anything to eat - if she wants something simple, like a salad or coffe, buy it for her. I know some people disagree, but it's high time you learn to influence women with your money.

She'll become interested in you, and think you'll buy her more stuff. Of course you never will, unless you get some pussy. It's a psychology class right? Think Pavlov
 
haunts said:
Approach her with another girl who is a friend of yours or something, if possible. Just say whats up and ask her how she is doing in the class or what she think of the class or something? fuck, I dunno..thats the easy part.. the point is, she will probably assume the girl you're with is your GF and will take a lot of the pressure off of you.

Whether or not she has a boyfriend is pretty irrelevant. I just assume all girls have a BF or "some guy they are seeing" because its usually true. If she isn't interested she will obviously have "some guy she is seeing".
This is initially what I had planned, but all of my female friends have late classes the days I have psychology. I don't really have a female friend in my class with me that I feel comfortable enough to approach this chick with. It looks like I'm flying solo on this one. Although, it seems like it is for my own good.
 
Oh.. well.. seriously.. this is the easy part.. The hard part is dealing with her after 4-5 dates and wonder wtf is going through her head as you look at her across the room..

Or when the 4-5 dates go well but then all of a sudden she gives you the cold shoulder in class after that and with no rhyme or reason.

Sorry im not helping.. :lol
 
I tell this to everyone.

Whats the worst that can happen if you talk to her? or ask if she has a boyfriend?

She rejects you? Shes taken? Just talk to her and find out. If shes taken, move on. If shes not, then just continue talking to her. If you don't have anything in common, it won't work. If you do, good for your guys. Ask if she wants to get some Coffee or Tea sometime.

Is it really that hard?
 
just talk to her about class or something. Just don't let this moment pass you up it's a crucial moment in your life when you need to be fearless and figure out your own damn problems and stop being such a pussy. Regardless though - fhuta!
 
everytime ive had a situation like this it turned out to be totally anti climatic, or the girl didnt end up having anything in common or something... the best experiences ive had is when it was really no big deal in my mind for whatever reason.
 
When you talk to her, don't try to please her. Just act like you would around a guy and try to figure out if you really want to be with her. From what I can tell you are fixated on the face, and you need to focus on whether she is someone you can spend serious time with.

Besides, sycophants aren't sexy.
 
how can you have a crush on a girl you haven't even talked to yet? I only start to like girls once I have a conversation with them and can find out if they're mentally retarded (which the majority unfortunately are) or not.
 
funkmastergeneral said:
how can you have a crush on a girl you haven't even talked to yet? I only start to like girls once I have a conversation with them and can find out if they're mentally retarded (which the majority unfortunately are) or not.
I know what you're saying. I didn't say I have a crush on her. I said I was attracted to her and I would like to talk to her to see if she is a dingbat or an intelligent girl. The problem is that I didn't know how to go about approaching her.
 
DevilWillcry said:
I know what you're saying. I didn't say I have a crush on her. I said I was attracted to her and I would like to talk to her to see if she is a dingbat or an intelligent girl. The problem is that I didn't know how to go about approaching her.

Ahh, I see. How big is the lecture? And does she surround herself with friends? I'd imagine if she has a whole gaggle of bimbos surrounding her during the lecture it'd be tough to squeeze in and be able to talk to her. However, if she's by herself just come into class and sit down next to her, but don't make it look obvious you scoped her out. be causual man. and start talking about stupid bullshit like how shitty the homework was.
 
Sorry OP I don't intend to hijack your thread but I don't want to create a thread for this.

Its my ex's birtday tomorrow, been a while since I've seen her and it ended quite amicably but I just can't think of an appropriate gift and I don't want to spend a lot. I don't want to spend a lot. Please GAF help me. Amen.
 
She's sooooooooo going to see through you like through a window.

Mash said:
Sorry OP I don't intend to hijack your thread but I don't want to create a thread for this.

Its my ex's birtday tomorrow, been a while since I've seen her and it ended quite amicably but I just can't think of an appropriate gift and I don't want to spend a lot. I don't want to spend a lot. Please GAF help me. Amen.

Who cares, she's your ex. Buy her whatever. Some chocolate, or some flowers. Really:p
 
Ether_Snake said:
Who cares, she's your ex. Buy her whatever. Some chocolate, or some flowers. Really:p

No, I'm not worried about that, I'm asking for ideas. I bought my Mom some shampoo for Christmas once. I'm not good at buying shit for other people, I'm too self concerned.
 
Mash said:
Sorry OP I don't intend to hijack your thread but I don't want to create a thread for this.

Its my ex's birtday tomorrow, been a while since I've seen her and it ended quite amicably but I just can't think of an appropriate gift and I don't want to spend a lot. I don't want to spend a lot. Please GAF help me. Amen.

Chocolate or something. Girls love it.
 
Thanks Funkmaster, I've narrowed it down to chocolates, a rabbit ear'd vibrator, or a gift certificate that say "YOU ARE WORTH TEN QUID TO ME!". Any other suggestions are still welcome.

OP, what's your plan then? Approach her before class? In class? E-stalk her?
 
domokunrox said:
I tell this to everyone.

Whats the worst that can happen if you talk to her? or ask if she has a boyfriend?

She rejects you? Shes taken? Just talk to her and find out. If shes taken, move on. If shes not, then just continue talking to her. If you don't have anything in common, it won't work. If you do, good for your guys. Ask if she wants to get some Coffee or Tea sometime.

Is it really that hard?

Truth. Just say "fuck it" and strike up a conversation with her. Listen to domokunrox... you're not with her right now, if she rejects you or is taken, you're still not going to be with her, so you're not losing anything. Take a chance, roll the dice, and who knows? Maybe you talk to her and within a month you'll be hitting it with the fury of Zeus.


pics plz
 
Don't put the cart in front of the horse.

The only thing you should care about right now is just making small talk. I'm sure there is something worth discussing, anything. Unless she fell asleep from the start to end, she has an opinion about the class. Go find out. Make some humorous observations (when applicable) and be friendly.

Provided you have that window of opportunity. If she is encircled by her friends or some dudes, unless you bump into her somewhere else (like waiting for the bus stop or in some line), then the chances of you talking to this girl are almost 0. Not to discourage you.

Don't worry about the boyfriend thing. Those things are so disposable at the college level that it is almost a non-issue.
 
hteng said:
just ask if you can copy her homework ? lol ok i'm kidding, just ask her about school work, i'm pretty sure she's helpful

This.

I wish I was still in college. This is such a damn brilliant idea. It's even better if there isn't any homework to copy. She'll be thrown for a loop and freak out about not doing it herself. That shit is funny.

Flirting is mostly nothing but advanced teasing for adults. Just fuck with her. Even if she doesn't like you, it's totally fun to fuck with people. Develop inside jokes with her, give her a nickname, start playing the "points game" with her. Do whatever.
 
WTF are you all talking about? Small-talk? blah. Worry about that stuff after.

Right now, just talk to her as you're all leaving class and ask her if she wants to meet up with you later and grab some lunch or something. If she says yes, worry about the small-talk during the lunch/drink/whatever. If she says no, whatever. You didn't really start anything and she's not interesting in you, so neither of you loses anything and an awkward situation is averted.
 
-things don't have to be perfect. take advantage of every opportunity.
-a girl doesn't have to be single to talk to the opposite sex.
-girls don't approach a quiet guys across the room. if they are out going, they talk to their friends or people around them.
-girls can smell confidence.
-if approaching certain girl is too complicated, don't bother with it. talk to someone that sits near you. which, see my first line of advice.. take advantage of every opportunity when its in front of you.


now, with that said, let me elaborate on examples. i've had random girls ask me a question or ask for a pencils who didn't give a fuck about me. i've had random people comment on my clothes for no reason, and be gone before i had a chance to reply.

so, again, thing's don't have to be perfect. you don't need a reason to open your mouth and have sound fly at someones head.
 
BooJoh said:
It means don't view women at some unattainable position like they're some sort of higher power you have to approach with perfect behavior, when in fact they are just human beings like yourself.
Yeah, but uh, that's the problem.
 
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