Night_Trekker
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I just started playing Drakengard. Nier is now officially on my radar.
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"You're a WHAT!?" Nier Gestalt|Replicant |OT|
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TheApatheticOne
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So GAF, let me be clear, Im very poor. Every game I have preordered has been covered in full by trade-ins. Now, I can squeeze out one more game. Now, I previously had 0 interest in this game (not in a negative way, it just was never on my radar), but you all have pretty much made it seem like I'm a horrible person that enjoys pushing old women holding babies down steep flights of stairs for not owning this game.
Damn you GAF, I assure you that I do NOT enjoy that! So, let me ask you this...
1)How hard is the game? Length? Any grinding required? Also, how about the saves? If I die, do I have to travel the world again to replay the part that killed me, or do I start right where I was?
If the answers are to my liking, I will be picking this up today.
Damn you GAF, I assure you that I do NOT enjoy that! So, let me ask you this...
1)How hard is the game? Length? Any grinding required? Also, how about the saves? If I die, do I have to travel the world again to replay the part that killed me, or do I start right where I was?
If the answers are to my liking, I will be picking this up today.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The important thing about Nier is that its in many respects a very traditional ARPG, particularly its structure and pacing.
The first hour or so are basically a quick guided tour of the game's many features - the Quicklook just shows part of that process, specifically a basic training dungeon culminating with the first magic "unlock" and boss encounter.
I've got to honest and say that the more I play the game, the more disappointed I am with the critical reception its got. It just seems to me that most commentators are overly focussed on graphics over gameplay and in some cases have shown a bloody-minded unwillingness to accept that when you trade scope for focus (in visual terms) compromises will need to be made.
The saddest thing is that this looks like its going vindicate the FFXIII's team's strategy of trading feature-set for polish.
I say sad even though I quite liked FFXIII (enough to put 110 hours in), Nier is a better game in every single respect bar visuals.
The first hour or so are basically a quick guided tour of the game's many features - the Quicklook just shows part of that process, specifically a basic training dungeon culminating with the first magic "unlock" and boss encounter.
I've got to honest and say that the more I play the game, the more disappointed I am with the critical reception its got. It just seems to me that most commentators are overly focussed on graphics over gameplay and in some cases have shown a bloody-minded unwillingness to accept that when you trade scope for focus (in visual terms) compromises will need to be made.
The saddest thing is that this looks like its going vindicate the FFXIII's team's strategy of trading feature-set for polish.
I say sad even though I quite liked FFXIII (enough to put 110 hours in), Nier is a better game in every single respect bar visuals.
TheApatheticOne said:
About the saving,the part I stopped playing,in the temple,with some puzzles(like do not run to get through this area while avoiding missiles)had a long stretch without being able to save,but for the most part,they are well placed...this one all of a sudden wasn`t,after some awesome first time stuff but if you have to redo it,it sucks.
I`m getting this game though because everything before that was awesome I just rented the game since it was still pretty much up in the air on release if the game would be long and good enough...now I know it is so i`ll buy it.
TheApatheticOne
Member
Well, thanks for the prompt answers.
Well...... crap. Guess I'll be picking this up later.
Well...... crap. Guess I'll be picking this up later.
UnblessedSoul
Member
Would of bought if Nier replicant was released with english subs over here instead of just Japan only
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Just play the game, it's essentially the same damn thing.UnblessedSoul said:
SlasherJPC
Banned
Glad to see more jumping on this band wagon. Once again just going to say this game gets better and better as you progress.
pancakesandsex
Member
Sacha said:
Yes I can get to the 6 chambers but cannot find the next key.
This cannot be reiterated enough:
When you first get your fishing pole and lure, DO NOT start fishing near the old man that gives you it.
Then DO NOT head left of him to fish on the pier closer to the huge fishing boat.
Please run towards the lighthouse, and instead of turning left in the caverns of the town to the lighthouse, continue running to the beach area where the kids are playing with the fat seals. Fish there.
Or else you will waste 40 minutes swearing at the top of your lungs at why fishing is SO GOD DAMN HARD!
I got good enough to fish a shark out with level 0 fishing skill though but man was I frustrated. Then fishing at the proper location and getting the
first try was nice.
EDIT: The game has been alot of fun so far, and all I've been doing is questing so far. 12 hours into the game and I have close to 20% of quests done and
.
Its really a hoot. Too bad the Main Character looks like Gary Busey merged with Nick Nolte and then came back in zombie form.
Horrifying. Literally.
When you first get your fishing pole and lure, DO NOT start fishing near the old man that gives you it.
Then DO NOT head left of him to fish on the pier closer to the huge fishing boat.
Please run towards the lighthouse, and instead of turning left in the caverns of the town to the lighthouse, continue running to the beach area where the kids are playing with the fat seals. Fish there.
Or else you will waste 40 minutes swearing at the top of your lungs at why fishing is SO GOD DAMN HARD!
I got good enough to fish a shark out with level 0 fishing skill though
but man was I frustrated. Then fishing at the proper location and getting the
Shaman Fish
EDIT: The game has been alot of fun so far, and all I've been doing is questing so far. 12 hours into the game and I have close to 20% of quests done and
this is just after meeting Kaine for the first time
Its really a hoot. Too bad the Main Character looks like Gary Busey merged with Nick Nolte and then came back in zombie form.
Horrifying. Literally.
Jinaar said:This cannot be reiterated enough:
When you first get your fishing pole and lure, DO NOT start fishing near the old man that gives you it.
Then DO NOT head left of him to fish on the pier closer to the huge fishing boat.
Please run towards the lighthouse, and instead of turning left in the caverns of the town to the lighthouse, continue running to the beach area where the kids are playing with the fat seals. Fish there.
Or else you will waste 40 minutes swearing at the top of your lungs at why fishing is SO GOD DAMN HARD!
I got good enough to fish a shark out with level 0 fishing skill thoughfirst try was nice.Shaman Fish
Also, if you're playing the 360 version, ignore the instructions and just pull back on the left stick when the fish bites (it'll be a big dip). If you press A as directed when the fish first bites, you'll always lose it. Just pull back on the left stick when it bites and whittle down its health bar until it's either gone completely (Nier will bring in the fish automatically), or if you think the health bar is low enough, you can chance it and press A to attempt to bring in the fish. This doesn't always work though - safest bet is letting Nier bring it in when the health bar reaches zero.
I had trouble with fishing on the 360 version until I realized you shouldn't press A.
Jinaar said:
My number-one reason for wanting to play the Replicant version of the game. Gestalt Nier looks like ass. I'll take the stock JRPG bishounen any day.
Nier himself is sort of shockingly ugly but for me that's part of the charm. He's a pretty normal unattractive human being who also happens to be a father and a village handyman. He has a huge heart underneath all those rough edges and leaving aside all of the fantasy aspects of the game he's easier for me to relate to than most ARPG characters because of it.
Besides, you'll spend most of your game time looking at Nier's well muscled back and not his ugly mug. The dude is very well cut!
And replying to TheApatheticOne Nier is pretty friendly about save points and game overs. I died to one of the bosses a couple of times and it starts you back out in the boss room instead of back at the last save point. And I had used all of my healing items in the previous fight and it even gave me those back also!
Besides, you'll spend most of your game time looking at Nier's well muscled back and not his ugly mug. The dude is very well cut!
And replying to TheApatheticOne Nier is pretty friendly about save points and game overs. I died to one of the bosses a couple of times and it starts you back out in the boss room instead of back at the last save point. And I had used all of my healing items in the previous fight and it even gave me those back also!
Dwight Schrute
Member
So many added scenes in NG+ ! Some things make... way more sense... Mindblown.
Windom Earle
Member
JonStark said:
NG+ gave me a total SotC vibe. So awesome and
sad at the same time
TheApatheticOne
Member
matmanx1 said:
Nice! I know it varies from person to person, but nothing turns me off more than having to replay large sections of game. The more and more I read, I'm very excited to play this.
pancakesandsex
Member
RE: Fishing - It took me a bit to figure out the mechanics as well. Essentially it's like FFXI fishing, except you have to hold down on the stick and rock it back and forth depending on where the fish is swimming. At first I was pulling back on the stick and releasing it, which makes you lose the fish, don't do this!
Ok, GAF hype + $45 at Kmart means I'll be getting this soon. Quick question though, most people that are praising the game are saying it makes up for the disappointing FFXIII (which I loved). Can someone reassure me that this game is really good on its own and not just compared to FFXIII? Or alternatively, anyone that genuinely likes both?
I saw a lot of similar comments regarding Resonance of Fate, and to be honest that game never really grabbed me (played for about 12 hours). I know they're 3 completely different games but comparisons are still being made.
I saw a lot of similar comments regarding Resonance of Fate, and to be honest that game never really grabbed me (played for about 12 hours). I know they're 3 completely different games but comparisons are still being made.
pancakesandsex
Member
lljride said:
I also like FF13, this game is really good on it's own.
â Narayan
Member
This game is the shit. Buy this game. Buy this fucking game.
TheApatheticOne
Member
lljride said:
I picked up Resonance of Fate due to all the praise it was receiving here, and already sold it. Not that it was a BAD game, just not my cup of tea, although everything about the game and that I saw of it said that it should be. GAF rarely leads me the wrong way though. With this being a bit more simplistic and action-y it looks like, Im sure that it will lead itself to be a bit more my style at least.
ULTROS!
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TheApatheticOne said:
Same here, I sold Resonance of Fate not because it was a bad game but it wasn't my cup of tea. Nier is more of my style or something with a TB/ATB system.
Crash Station
Member
I should've asked this a while ago. If I liked Drakengard, will I like this?
WickedLaharl
Member
this game is fucking awesome.
in fact it so awesome that anyone whom is an arpg fan must play it.
the music, locations (the view when you get to the lost shrine is amazing), crazy ass bullet hell sequences, magic, ect. are so good.
plus having a story start out the way this one did helps to.
in fact it so awesome that anyone whom is an arpg fan must play it.
the music, locations (the view when you get to the lost shrine is amazing), crazy ass bullet hell sequences, magic, ect. are so good.
plus having a story start out the way this one did helps to.
TheApatheticOne
Member
thetrin said:
Work blocking GAF would be one the the best/worst things they could block. I love how active everyone is here, and wish ya'll were closer as obviously we all come here due to common interests. However, GAF is the best salesman on earth when something is good. GAF has sold me on so many games I had no idea about or had previously no interest in.
After this thread, chalk another one up for GAF. GAF 1, TheApatheticOne 0.
Nier get.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Can't... stop... playing ! So much story revealed in NG+ TT
FrostuTheNinja
Member
JonStark said:
I'd like to go back to Nier as soon as possible but I don't want to burn myself out.
Is there really that much more story? Are they extended or new/extra scenes? And are they voiced cut scenes or more written dialogue like
at the beginning of new game+?
WickedLaharl
Member
yeah i was pretty down on the game before. i mean it's fucking cavia and for the most part they make pretty crappy games.
but they did good here - real good! so i'll try not to be so hard on them in the future
but they did good here - real good! so i'll try not to be so hard on them in the future
cosmicblizzard said:
I loved both Drakengards and I love Nier. If you remember the
cubes and red balls
In many ways, Nier very much feels like the Bastard Son of Drakengard, even though the plot connection between the two is pretty tenuous. (I haven't finished my first play through of Nier though, so the relation between the two gameworlds might be more than just
Caim and his dragon bringing the Black Scrawl disease to Nier's world in Drakengard's Ending E
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
luxarific said:
Fucking hell that sounds amazing.
Cavia is the greatest.
ZephyrFate
Banned
You didn't play Drakengard 1 did you? This is pretty bog standard for Cavia titles.ULTROS! said:
FrostuTheNinja said:
There are new (voiced) cutscenes and new little dialogues
(but not "texts" like at the beginning of NG+)
Rahxephon91
Banned
No Bullet Witch's universe isn't as developed as Drakengard or Nier I guess. It doesn't really have many characters and I don't think any of them die.ULTROS! said:So Bullet Witch is also like that?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Cavia takes great joy in this sort of thing.
I think Bulletwitch is actually a great example because
The only standard for Cavia is that there is no standard. They will find a way to take things you like and attempt to make you hate them. Eventually the things you hate may turn into things you like, that's when Cavia will find a way to make you hate them again.
Think about Drakengard 1. That game was pretty well fucked up. Still people began to love it and clamored for more of the same in the sequel. Cavia knowingly did their best to disappoint the hell out of them.
I think Bulletwitch is actually a great example because
the one douchey toolkit you hate/expect to die throughout the entirety of the game never dies.
The only standard for Cavia is that there is no standard. They will find a way to take things you like and attempt to make you hate them. Eventually the things you hate may turn into things you like, that's when Cavia will find a way to make you hate them again.
Think about Drakengard 1. That game was pretty well fucked up. Still people began to love it and clamored for more of the same in the sequel. Cavia knowingly did their best to disappoint the hell out of them.
SlasherJPC
Banned
mjc said:
Soon you will be one of us!
BlazingDarkness
Member
dude, you need to learn how to spoiler tag properlyULTROS! said:
Windom Earle
Member
Ending D sure will make people hate Cavia again
Azure Phoenix
Member
ULTROS! said:
Thanks a lot for that god awful use of the spoiler tag, now you've just spoilt a significant portion of this game for me before I can even afford to get it. As BlazingDarkness said, learn to use the damn spoiler tag properly in future.
Just finished the game in a little under 14 hours and enjoyed my playthrough alot. A few drawbacks were the constant re-using of old dungeons and the fieldmusic that went from awesome to annoying in a few hours (i don't think vocals are suited for music you'll hear over and over again but that's just my opinion). The bosses were easily the peak of the game and the story kept me interested till the end (also enjoyed the references to other games).
Thanks alot for making me buy this game gaf.
Thanks alot for making me buy this game gaf.
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