Hm, no idea. It's been forever since I played that game and I remember just bumping into her for that to show up :S
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Ys Community Thread | "Do you know the name Adol Christin?"
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Hm, no idea. It's been forever since I played that game and I remember just bumping into her for that to show up :S
manzo
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I've finished the X68K version multiple times. In fact, it's my favourite version of Ys 1.
The X68K version has two songs not available in any other version; Zeptik Village and the mountains after it. Beautiful songs.
Yeah. It's not the only one, either. Basically all of the new tracks in later versions of Ys 1 and 2 were originally unused tracks. There are still several that have never been used in an official capacity, as far as I'm aware. And, although it has found use elsewhere, I'm a little disappointed they didn't find a place to stick the original Koshiro version of Theme of Adol in Eternal/Chronicles.
So I started Memories of Celceta this weekend, just beat the
. It's great so far, but it seems like there are just waaaaay too many enemies around. Which not only slows the system down but makes it a bit of a hassle to get through areas (especially when you are overpowered). The environments are probably the largest I've seen in a Ys game, a nice contrast to the last game I played, #5, where everything was so small.
Other than the number of enemies, I'm not nuts how there's the loot system and minor crafting elements... it seems pretty optional so far, but one thing I liked about earlier Ys games was that they were pretty to-the-point, no superfluous systems. Also am I the only one getting sick of how every single RPG nowadays has to shoehorn in loot (oh wow I get a sword with fire resistance +2! yay!) and crafting (yay, collect 10 boar hides so I can refine them into armor slightly better than what I have)...?
Selray town section
Other than the number of enemies, I'm not nuts how there's the loot system and minor crafting elements... it seems pretty optional so far, but one thing I liked about earlier Ys games was that they were pretty to-the-point, no superfluous systems. Also am I the only one getting sick of how every single RPG nowadays has to shoehorn in loot (oh wow I get a sword with fire resistance +2! yay!) and crafting (yay, collect 10 boar hides so I can refine them into armor slightly better than what I have)...?
discoalucard
i am a butthurt babby that can only drool in wonder at shiney objects
RE: your second spoiler, I remember seeing it in the PS2 version. I was under the impression it was added specifically for it, so maybe it was supposed to be in the PC version but dummied out.
I think you're talking about Olha:
There's a set of codes you can use in the PS2 version of Napishtim that will allow you to view secret scenes between Adol and Olha in a swimsuit on Moonset Shore. I believe they're "rewards" for beating the Boss Rush Time Attack on Hard, and may exist in the PC version as well according to fan translator Doopiapunta as he's translated lines pertaining to it.
Apparently there's an alternate scene with Olha wearing a slightly skimpier bathing suit that requires a different code to unlock, or possibly by beating Boss Rush on Nightmare. There's little documentation on that but the code definitely works. This might also be on PC, as a screenshot exists:
filename: "ys6timeattacknightrushuv3.jpg"
However, the piece of art I was talking about actually comes from Oath of Felghana's configuration menu files. By using image extraction tools one can isolate two unfinished portraits of Olha and Isha wearing one-piece suits and a note in Japanese attached. Possibly leftover placeholder art from Napishtim (Oath was built on Napishtim's engine, so data invariably crossed over).
Link to a thread on Ancient Land of Ys about this
This is all information I came across in preparation for this community thread.
discoalucard
i am a butthurt babby that can only drool in wonder at shiney objects
Ah, I get ya. I didn't know about the Felghana pics (though I'm behind a work firewall ATM, I'll check back later). I also keep confusing Ohla and Isha even though I'm replaying Ys VI right now.
At any rate, is there any matrix that indicates which songs are in which versions of Ys I, II and III? Ys I in particular has a lot of different songs exclusive to various ports, or previously unused songs were officially used in Eternal/Chronicles. If there isn't one, I'll try to make one myself. I feel this is something I maybe have seen years ago at some place like Falcom Daisuki, but then I just realized it closed down like five years ago.
At any rate, is there any matrix that indicates which songs are in which versions of Ys I, II and III? Ys I in particular has a lot of different songs exclusive to various ports, or previously unused songs were officially used in Eternal/Chronicles. If there isn't one, I'll try to make one myself. I feel this is something I maybe have seen years ago at some place like Falcom Daisuki, but then I just realized it closed down like five years ago.
Ys Music Files has you covered.
http://tk-nz.game.coocan.jp/ysmusic/bgm/bgm_ys1.html
http://tk-nz.game.coocan.jp/ysmusic/bgm/bgm_ys2.html
http://tk-nz.game.coocan.jp/ysmusic/bgm/bgm_ys3.html
I definitely consider myself an unusual/weird Ys fan as a lot of the stuff I like about these games are in the fine details/hardly ever discussed. Some of my favorite moments in Ys are the quiet/calm rooms before the final boss/dungeon. Napishtim probably has my favorite usage of this. I love the foreboding/mysterious ambiance/vibes tracks like Pressure Stairs provide. It's these idle/chill moments that inspire and center me. Memories of Celceta did this too as did Origin, but I can't find the tracks on YouTube (it's the "first" room in the final dungeon that's essentially a 3-way road to the other core sections of the dungeon in Celceta though). I'm also obsessed with the Well of Souls in Ys7. There are these prehistoric fish monsters in the water in that dungeon with ridiculously cool bestiary descriptions. It's the small stuff like this that makes me freak out about these games, hah!
And Napishtim too! I wish...
Shoujo Ys? Mite b cool. Anything in there interesting from the perspective of somebody who's finished the first two games multiple times?Just got a Ys manga from 1990 (I think?) this week. This guy right here is Adol Christin.
I can take more pictures of it if anyone is interested.
I keep running into this site whilst searching for Ys stuff. Is it a fansite? It's pretty thorough.
I think the reason we've yet to hear about any more PC ports is because Xseed is up to their eyeballs getting TiTs FC and SC stable and running on Steam. They must be running poor Sara ragged.
Though I think Carpe Fulgur might be lending a hand on those projects? Or is it just strictly translation their helping with?I want to believe that at some point, they'll reveal Zweii II, Gurumin and Napishtim coming to Steam within a short timeframe in a surprise announcement.
Doesn't seems to be related with the main events of Ys I & II, although it has Dark Fact (or a guy that looks a lot like him) and the Darm Tower in. Maybe it's some kind of spin-off or "retelling"? All I know is that it was released around in the late 80s.
Also, can't find this manga to read online, so I assume it's kind of rare.
Will take some pictures later (I'm out home right now).
Yeah. It's a fansite made by venerable tk_nz with information about the music of practically every single Falcom game/album released. This is a very serious source.
Augemitbutter
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everything was metal.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Adol is a saiyan? Suddenly things make sense.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I don't watch anime so it's the only thing that really stuck out to me.
What's with the blonde though.
What's with the blonde though.
I think it's more fun with just Adol, personally.
Wildarmsjecht
Member
Just beat the second Ys I feel like this was way easier than the first in terms of bosses. But it was an ultimate pain in the ass in terms of navigations. Seriously, fuuuuuuuuuck the palace brah. Stupid confusing corridors. Anyway, maybe its because I grinded so much but I felt like it was easy to level since you got exp for like...doing main story stuff.
Still enjoyable. Mad feels at the end. I really wanted to end up with Feena...guess I'll settle for what's her face.
8/10, will play again.
Should I continue with the series in numerical order like this or what?
Still enjoyable. Mad feels at the end. I really wanted to end up with Feena...guess I'll settle for what's her face.
8/10, will play again.
Should I continue with the series in numerical order like this or what?
Might as well play Origin next as it kinda sorta continues that story.
There's really no particular order you need to play in. Going in release order from Napishtim > Oath > Origin provides a nice experience as each games' combat and overall design improves on the previous ones. Release order is actually the complete opposite of numberical/chronological order, but they're all unique enough that they're enjoyable on their own.
I played Napishtim only recently, but replaying Origin and Oath afterwards made me notice a number of plot points and references in those games that you'd only catch if you played Napishtim first. It's weird that way, but release order might be the best option.
JB2448
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https://www.facebook.com/XSEEDGames/posts/10152065255143354
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/23/xseed-will-try-bring-ys-ark-napishtim-pc/
Unsure if this is old news, but Napishtim on Steam is seemingly a matter of time, at this point.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/23/xseed-will-try-bring-ys-ark-napishtim-pc/
Unsure if this is old news, but Napishtim on Steam is seemingly a matter of time, at this point.
chaosblade
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Pretty much the same thing they have been saying. Sara is busy with the Trails games though so don't expect it until after SC.
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Random but...
(Ys vs. Sora no Kiseki: Alternative Saga Picture)
Does Adols image in this look like his eyes are cross eyed? I can't tell if he's looking to the right, left, or ahead.
Maybe it's just me...
That famous wandering eye of his. The left searches for adventure, the right for the unrequited love of a chaste young lady.
Goddammit, the true final boss of Ys Origin is really a pain in the butt. I can't tell if I'm doing it wrong or not. He is too damn long and the fact that he heals himself when changing forms certainly doesn't help. I can barely reach its final form. I can't take anymore for today, so I'll have to beat the previous boss again. No cutscenes skipping is bad, too.
Sometimes the boss shows its weak point fairly quickly, other times it takes a ton of hits.
Sometimes the boss shows its weak point fairly quickly, other times it takes a ton of hits.
The pearl moves into different parts of it's body, but sometimes it can be tough to see which one it enters. If you target the right one it can pop quickly but it can be a bit of a guessing game.
By the time he moves into the final phase my health was low enough that, combined with level 3 boost regen, I got boost every few seconds so I just burst in his face until he died.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I could never tell which part to attack so I just used the jump attack and hit all of them.
Also, I would need to try it again but I think using the boost mode makes him heal? I think I noticed that on my last playthrough, he healed (or healed more) when I used boost versus when I didn't.
I had one attempt where I actually got his HP all the way down without going through the final form, but the game was like NOPE and gave him half the HP bar back so I had to do like two more rounds and then the final form.
Also, I would need to try it again but I think using the boost mode makes him heal? I think I noticed that on my last playthrough, he healed (or healed more) when I used boost versus when I didn't.
I had one attempt where I actually got his HP all the way down without going through the final form, but the game was like NOPE and gave him half the HP bar back so I had to do like two more rounds and then the final form.
I feel like it's more that you're only allowed to burst down a certain amount of its health at a time, and that there are particular milestones percentages that it'll reset to once its health dips below that amount.
For instance, let's say that it has a milestone at 80% health.
- If you can get it down to 78% off one orb exposure, then it'll reset its health to 80% at the next form change. Not much of a loss.
- If you get it down to 82% on the first expose and bring it down to 62% on the next one, then you're kinda SOL since it'll go back to 80% on the transition.
And yeah, you'll be in for a pretty rough time if a particular milestone doesn't proc the associated health boost for some reason.
For instance, let's say that it has a milestone at 80% health.
- If you can get it down to 78% off one orb exposure, then it'll reset its health to 80% at the next form change. Not much of a loss.
- If you get it down to 82% on the first expose and bring it down to 62% on the next one, then you're kinda SOL since it'll go back to 80% on the transition.
And yeah, you'll be in for a pretty rough time if a particular milestone doesn't proc the associated health boost for some reason.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I always hated that aspect of the fight. I wonder why they didn't just make him stop taking damage for that cycle whenever you took off a segment of his health. Maybe they wanted to make it seem kind of hopeless.
Started my first playthrough of Ys Book I & II. I'm already past Dark Fact but not without taking some lumps from certain bosses like Vaguillon who I feel is even tougher here than in Chronicles on Nightmare. Seriously, you simply can't avoid being damaged by him even in his real form. And I had a pretty tough time in Darm Tower because I forgot that the silver equipment gets taken from you early on, and since I got the Silver Shield and Armor faster than the money needed to buy the good stuff in Minea I was left with poor defenses for a good portion of the climb (unlike the Chronicles version, you don't seem to get free gear from chests in order to make up for it). Dark Fact however fell like a chump, probably due to the lack of level cap in this version. I was Level 36 by the time I got to him.
As expected, Esteria was a lot more compact in this version. Never mind the missing Barbados port town, which didn't exist before the remakes. The field between Minea Town and Zeptic village was a lot more condensed in this version: it's just the one screen. Both Roda trees, the entrance to Rasteenie Mine and the pond with the Golden Vase are all within a stone's throw from each other; whereas in the Chronicles version the field between Minea and Zeptic was comprised of multiple screens and somewhat maze-ish if you ventured off the beaten path.
I've already played through Dawn of Ys, which took liberties with Falcom's Ys lore and sometimes outright ignored them. But I guess it all really started with Book I&II. Originally Adol is supposed to wash ashore on Esteria, starting the running gag about him and his luck with ships. And this was retained in Chronicles. But here, Adol simply strolls up to port on a ship and is immediately contacted by Sara the Fortuneteller. There's no mention of the Stormwall or the fact that the island had been isolated for months.
Sara's another point of contention. In all other versions of Ys I,
Sara is murdered
she's either kidnapped or simply missing
she reappears out of the blue to guide you to Celceta
Ah, whatever. It's fun and the music sounds great. I should stop over-analyzing and just keep playing the game.
Sorry for the late reply guys, but I've finally sit down and took a few pictures from the Ys manga.
Man, this is so confusing.
Here's Dark Fact, aka everyone's favorite professional douche on this thread.
And also the people responsible of this manga:
There's also quite a bit of nudity too :$
Since (as far as I know) there's no way to read this manga online, I've been thinking about to scan the whole volume (this is volume 2 BTW). This would be the first time I do something like this and I can't guarantee the best quality, but it should be "good enough".
Didn't The Dawn of Ys take place just before the end of Ys II? With
?
Man, this is so confusing.
Here's Dark Fact, aka everyone's favorite professional douche on this thread.
And also the people responsible of this manga:
There's also quite a bit of nudity too :$
Since (as far as I know) there's no way to read this manga online, I've been thinking about to scan the whole volume (this is volume 2 BTW). This would be the first time I do something like this and I can't guarantee the best quality, but it should be "good enough".
Didn't The Dawn of Ys take place just before the end of Ys II? With
Adol fighting Darm at the opening cinematic with that badass rendition of Termination as BGM
Ys Community Thread |OT| Fantasy, adventure, danger, frap, sword, magic and goddess all in one!
Hm, might be too long. Wait, what's a frap?
If we still assume that Hudson's Ys IV takes place after their Ys II and before Ys III... that would mean that after Ys II they left Esteria for two years, came back and then after they finished their task in Celceta they left again to wander for another 1-2 years before arriving in Felghana. That would put Adol at roughly 21 years old instead of 19 as Falcom insists he was in Oath in Felghana.
Now, Mask of the Sun doesn't have a scene like that. Instead it depicts Adol reminiscing about the battle against Dark Fact, Darm and about the Goddesses before finding a bottle on a beach somewhere on Esteria so he hasn't actually traveled anywhere significant yet. He even visits Luta Gemma to get that bottle read before finally setting off for Celceta. There's never any mention of journeying with Dogi to Felghana or anywhere at all, so the proper sequence of events is maintained.
Yeah, Hudson kinda wrote themselves into a corner there. It makes more sense to slot the Felghana adventure in-between II and IV in that two year gap. Otherwise they were just bumming around the countryside for 2 years not getting a damn thing done.
Hm, might be too long. Wait, what's a frap?
I feel like Ys already crossed that line long ago so it's not that strange? Ah well. Anyway this seems just like that Ys II Special, where they took the basic Ys plot and just went nuts with it.
Flashback, yo. When the game starts proper you see Adol and Dogi coming back to Esteria on a ship after being away for 2 years. So they were already traveling together, as we saw in the Ys 3 opening cinema.
If we still assume that Hudson's Ys IV takes place after their Ys II and before Ys III... that would mean that after Ys II they left Esteria for two years, came back and then after they finished their task in Celceta they left again to wander for another 1-2 years before arriving in Felghana. That would put Adol at roughly 21 years old instead of 19 as Falcom insists he was in Oath in Felghana.
Now, Mask of the Sun doesn't have a scene like that. Instead it depicts Adol reminiscing about the battle against Dark Fact, Darm and about the Goddesses before finding a bottle on a beach somewhere on Esteria so he hasn't actually traveled anywhere significant yet. He even visits Luta Gemma to get that bottle read before finally setting off for Celceta. There's never any mention of journeying with Dogi to Felghana or anywhere at all, so the proper sequence of events is maintained.
Yeah, Hudson kinda wrote themselves into a corner there. It makes more sense to slot the Felghana adventure in-between II and IV in that two year gap. Otherwise they were just bumming around the countryside for 2 years not getting a damn thing done.
Have you 100% Origin? I've been playing it off and on for over a year and I'm still not done.
Just noticed this:
Awesome. But the second row doesn't wrap around cleanly, there seems to be something missing that should go there but none of the other achievements seem to fit.
I have to use my girlfriend's laptop to play games on Steam, so I don't play as much there. Not enough to get obsessive about Steam achievements anyway.
prodystopian
Member
I'm just starting Ys Oath and I'm at the first or second boss
I played Napishtim last year so I'm familiar with the mechanics, generally, but is there anything I need to know about this game specifically? Can I do the dash jump like in Ark? Are there any other mechanics I might not know about? I can't seem to get the lunge attack to work, but I've played with the rest of the stuff mentioned in the pause menu (boost mode, magic, the other attacks).
I beat the wizard in the store room and I'm now on the lady with wings.
I played Napishtim last year so I'm familiar with the mechanics, generally, but is there anything I need to know about this game specifically? Can I do the dash jump like in Ark? Are there any other mechanics I might not know about? I can't seem to get the lunge attack to work, but I've played with the rest of the stuff mentioned in the pause menu (boost mode, magic, the other attacks).