Thankfully they ditched the dash jump, instead you will eventually acquire an awesome double jump.
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Ys Community Thread | "Do you know the name Adol Christin?"
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Thankfully they ditched the dash jump, instead you will eventually acquire an awesome double jump.
Celceta will be ~20 dollars for PS+ members, 28 dollars otherwise on PSN.
In case anyone was waiting for a sale.
In case anyone was waiting for a sale.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
There isn't a Dash Jump or anything similar in Oath in Felghana fortunately, what you see is what you get pretty much.
Edit: Oops, beaten on the new page.
Edit: Oops, beaten on the new page.
What's wrong with the dash jump?
Activating it is unintuitive and unreliable. The timing is difficult to pin down.
Dunno, I never had any problems with it. Seemed to me more like he is happy that something got easier for no reason whatsoever.
It felt very unresponsive and inconsistent. I played the ps2 version and I heard that had some input lag so maybe it was that? Idk, nevertheless I doubt it would change much even in the glorious PC version.
Edit: oops...Psxphile beat me to it.
I played the PC version and it did require a certain timing, so you couldn't just spam it right after the directional input.
Higgins113
Banned
I still have nightmares about that dash jump
Do you have the hammer? That's like the dumbest part of the game btw.
Not yet.
Dogi just broke Adol out of the prison cell.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Doesn't it tell you what floor you are on?
Augemitbutter
Member
a trap.
good man. i want to do that next playthrough. i need 100% Ys. i hate collecting stuff though.
Gosh, this is tempting. Wonder if my memory card has enough room left...
My Celceta platinum is one of the biggest pains in the ass I have ever done, but because of that one of the ones I am most proud of. A few hours of comparing my map to one online, crossing out each harvest point that we both had. Chests was even worse... And honestly, I liked the game so much I felt it deserved me putting in the effort to 100%.
This exact thing happened to me when I was playing Book I. Got to the door, realized I forgot to head back to Luta and get the Blue Amulet after getting Volume Gemma before continuing on. Went all the way back to Floor... 10, was it?... don't remember (same floor as the hallway trap), got the Amulet, headed back up but was killed and had to do it all over again because I didn't save after getting the amulet. :\
If you think Darm Tower was difficult to figure out you're going to LOVE Solomon Shrine. At least the music is nice.
The Last Wizard
Member
How is celceta?
I liked it a fair bit. The core exploration and lite dungeon crawling is fairly addictive and it was actually fun to change up party members and try out different things. The first playthrough is actually pretty difficult and crafting can be surprisingly useful. The narrative is pretty unremarkable and there's no scene skip (however, you can fast forward). The game is also a bit blurry and has an unstable framerate.
Aarglefarg
Member
I bought Celceta a few days ago, and it is my first Us game. I am liking it a lot, for its exploration and for the combat not slowing things down too much. Exploration like this is something I want from more games.
I guess the shortcomings of Celceta and strengths of Seven are not as apparent on Easy difficulty.
prodystopian
Member
I've been playing a good bit of Oath and got to the
. I really hate the double jump + float required for a couple jumps. Really enjoying the game though. I just hate missing powerups.
Abandoned mines
I've seen a lot of people on my twitter timeline trying it out. Good to see.
Tizoc
Member
Why are some people saying that Ys is 'hard'? I've seen people who found Oath and Seven hard just from the first boss or two.
I mean yeah I died a lot against the first both of Oath at the start but at that point I forgot to save before fighting Durlan so I kept replaying the fight a dozen times til I beat the boss.
I too died a couple of times against later bosses but not enough to scar me or fighten me.
No whenever a boss in Oath got too strong I'd grind a little, upgrade my weapons and when I got back I was all 'COME ON LET'S GO! LET'S GO MUTHAFUCKA, LET'S DO THIS SHIT! ADOL CHRISTIN IN THE HOUSE BITCH, I BE ALL 'ATATATATATATATA' WITH MY SWORD ON YO ASS! YOU FIRIN' YO LAZER AT ME?! CHUMP, I JUMP OVER THAT SHIT THEN I GET BACK TO SLASHIN' YO FACE!
ADOL CHRISTIN BITCH, YOU TELL THEM THAT'S WHO SENT YOU TO HELL, AND IF THEY EVEN DARE SHOW THEIR DEMON ASS ON THE MORTAL PLANE AGAIN I'LL HUMILIATE THEM EVEN WORSE THAN THE LAST EVIL GOD WHO GOT ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY UP HERE!'
Heck the first boss of Ys Seven wasn't even a challenge, you just memorize patterns and dodge accordinly.
I mean yeah I died a lot against the first both of Oath at the start but at that point I forgot to save before fighting Durlan so I kept replaying the fight a dozen times til I beat the boss.
I too died a couple of times against later bosses but not enough to scar me or fighten me.
No whenever a boss in Oath got too strong I'd grind a little, upgrade my weapons and when I got back I was all 'COME ON LET'S GO! LET'S GO MUTHAFUCKA, LET'S DO THIS SHIT! ADOL CHRISTIN IN THE HOUSE BITCH, I BE ALL 'ATATATATATATATA' WITH MY SWORD ON YO ASS! YOU FIRIN' YO LAZER AT ME?! CHUMP, I JUMP OVER THAT SHIT THEN I GET BACK TO SLASHIN' YO FACE!
ADOL CHRISTIN BITCH, YOU TELL THEM THAT'S WHO SENT YOU TO HELL, AND IF THEY EVEN DARE SHOW THEIR DEMON ASS ON THE MORTAL PLANE AGAIN I'LL HUMILIATE THEM EVEN WORSE THAN THE LAST EVIL GOD WHO GOT ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY UP HERE!'
Heck the first boss of Ys Seven wasn't even a challenge, you just memorize patterns and dodge accordinly.
Don't play the games on Normal.
Tizoc
Member
I get the complaint from some that have played it on Easy or Normal =V
Player's skill level has been decreasing on average as games get easier and more handholdy. Kids these days struggle with the first levels of 2d platformers.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
You just need to grind properly and even on the hardest difficulties the bosses are just pattern memorization.
I played Oath on normal and found the bosses to be incredibly difficult. I'm not that good at action games in general though so I guess that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I did eventually beat it and played Origins on normal afterward and found it to be far easier. How does Seven compare to the two?
You just have to adjust. The bosses have way more health.
wintermute0
Banned
Ys is a great series. I've played all the games with the exception of Ys: Memories of Celceta, and that's because I don't own a Vita. If I ever get one Celceta will be the first game I pick up.
It's one of the reasons I bought a vita. Thankfully the vita has tons of shit I want to play.
Don't worry it will. It starts out really dry but opens up more and more as you go.
Tizoc
Member
I kinda hope that's not the case though. I mean if someone can beat the Souls games and find their difficulty to their liking, Ys games should be easy to them in comparison! Imagine if someone who is really good in the Souls games tells you that Ys 3 (OiF) is hard, lol!
...but it's like what Pancakes posted
Nah you could still beat bosses without the need to grind, although the extra little health and defense help a bit
...but yeah, bosses in Ys are pattern memorization just like it is in other platformers and action games of the pre PSX era.
I kinda hope that's not the case though. I mean if someone can beat the Souls games and find their difficulty to their liking, Ys games should be easy to them in comparison! Imagine if someone who is really good in the Souls games tells you that Ys 3 (OiF) is hard, lol!
...but it's like what Pancakes posted
Nah you could still beat bosses without the need to grind, although the extra little health and defense help a bit
...but yeah, bosses in Ys are pattern memorization just like it is in other platformers and action games of the pre PSX era.
Souls games have slow combat. Ys Oath in Felghana requires more twitchy reactions.
Tizoc
Member
I don't know about twitchy, but this is pretty much what goes in my mind when playing Oath in Felghana when it comes to its combat/battles:
'ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA'
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Provided you don't grind, Oath in Felghana on Nightmare is a good deal harder than Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.
To be fair, Demon's/Dark Souls isn't really that hard (that is, I find its difficulty overblown).
The most soul crushing thing about Felghana's Nightmare difficulty is
that it's not even the highest difficulty in that game
Demon's Souls is a bit harder than most modern games, but the False King was the only thing giving me real problems there. I haven't played much of Dark Souls, maybe that's harder.
Dark Souls is a lot easier imo. Less convoluted upgrade paths, overhauled ammo-based magic system, smoother difficulty slope, no 50% max HP reduc on death, "fairer" bosses.
But I digress, this is an Ys thread after all.
Thread's gone quiet. Expected, but somewhat discouraging. Ys Eight when!?
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Slowly but surely wrapping up Book II. Now in Solomon Shrine and working my way through familiar yet not-so-familiar territory.
Have to say, because of the way the bump system works in the TG-16 ports I've been abusing the Fireball magic way more than I ever did in Chronicles since I got it. It's so much easier to just wail away from afar, and MP is abundant in this version. And once you get the Hawk Idol not only does it give your Fireball homing capacity but it can pretty much one-shot normal mooks because the magic doesn't fade away after just one hit, causing it to strike multiple times until dead. Just have to be careful, as sometimes it causes enemies to bounce back into Adol and damage him inadvertently. I can attribute at least one death to this phenomena.
I leveled up so much in the Rance Village basement thanks to a never-ending stream of "goons" as the game affectionately likes to call demons in this version. Bought out the Armory (wow at those prices doe) and pretty much played the rest of the game straight. Though I died in the poison hallway in the lava area because I forgot to equip the Roda Leaf. The game sees fit to drain your HP so fast in there you barely have time to process what's happening before it's too late. Ouch.
Arrived in Zeptic (holy fuck WOW at the new armory prices) and just making steady progress into the final phase of the game. Not much to say here, really. It's pretty much identical to Chronicles in how some things play out.
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Slowly but surely wrapping up Book II. Now in Solomon Shrine and working my way through familiar yet not-so-familiar territory.
Have to say, because of the way the bump system works in the TG-16 ports I've been abusing the Fireball magic way more than I ever did in Chronicles since I got it. It's so much easier to just wail away from afar, and MP is abundant in this version. And once you get the Hawk Idol not only does it give your Fireball homing capacity but it can pretty much one-shot normal mooks because the magic doesn't fade away after just one hit, causing it to strike multiple times until dead. Just have to be careful, as sometimes it causes enemies to bounce back into Adol and damage him inadvertently. I can attribute at least one death to this phenomena.
I leveled up so much in the Rance Village basement thanks to a never-ending stream of "goons" as the game affectionately likes to call demons in this version. Bought out the Armory (wow at those prices doe) and pretty much played the rest of the game straight. Though I died in the poison hallway in the lava area because I forgot to equip the Roda Leaf. The game sees fit to drain your HP so fast in there you barely have time to process what's happening before it's too late. Ouch.
Arrived in Zeptic (holy fuck WOW at the new armory prices) and just making steady progress into the final phase of the game. Not much to say here, really. It's pretty much identical to Chronicles in how some things play out.
Was there ever any new information for that very Ys-like teaser artwork they showed a while back?