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Ys I & II Chronicles+ |OT|: A Valentine's Day Double Date With Two Goddesses!

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
Fantastic. I assume I need to take her to the mines as well for the other one.

Actually, there's one specific spot you need to back her into in order to trigger her FALCOM-WRITTEN AND FALCOM-APPROVED (no, seriously) measurement dialogue.

...And something specific you need to be wearing in order to really creep her out in the process.

Is the level cap in Ys1 really level 10? I hit that pretty damn quick already.

Yep! Ys II is much more generous, though -- I *think* it's 75 in Ys II, though I might be mistaken.

-Tom
 

Jucksalbe

Banned
I say this because I can't be the only one who gets stupid from time to time:

Don't forget to equip your weapons and armor!

I died pretty fast at the first enemy...
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Oh man that bat demon was a pain in the ass. Question though, is it normal that when I fight bosses the game seems to automatically apply this gross (I think bilinear) filter over everything and then revert back to no filter when it's over?

You can see the filter here:

ibcwfxeDoeDHm4.png
 

Carm

Member
Is anyone having an issue with using the dpad and using the b button for running not working? Using the analog stick it works, but when hitting b to run while using the dpad, adol just stops.
 

Hatsuu

XSEED
Oh man that bat demon was a pain in the ass. Question though, is it normal that when I fight bosses the game seems to automatically apply this gross (I think bilinear) filter over everything and then revert back to no filter when it's over?

You can see the filter here:

I'm fairly sure Sara can (and will) explain this better than I can, but yes, that is something currently unique to Chronicles Mode. Because of the zoom in for boss battles in Chronicles mode, unfiltered looks very... unattractive. You can fight battles in Complete mode without the filter though.
 

Mrbob

Member
The cap is 10? Wow. I think I might be halfway there already.

Took me awhile to get used to the auto combat of the game by running into enemies. I still take too many hits from them but it is getting easier.

I can get both Complete (4:3) and zoomed in widescreen of Chronicles mode (30:17) to work in Ys1. After testing them both out I came to the conclusion I like 4:3 better. Maybe on a smaller screen and from a bigger distance Chronicles mode would be better. But sitting close to a 23" Monitor everything feels way too big zoomed in. Any chance this view can get pushed out with a patch?
 
I say this because I can't be the only one who gets stupid from time to time:

Don't forget to equip your weapons and armor!

I died pretty fast at the first enemy...

The first time I played Ys, I was raging for a while cause I kept dying so quickly. I had actually just forgot to equip my shit.

=| I'm an idiot.
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
The cap is 10? Wow. I think I might be halfway there already.

Took me awhile to get used to the auto combat of the game by running into enemies. I still take too many hits from them but it is getting easier.

I can get both Complete (4:3) and zoomed in widescreen of Chronicles mode (30:17) to work in Ys1. After testing them both out I came to the conclusion I like 4:3 better. Maybe on a smaller screen and from a bigger distance Chronicles mode would be better. But sitting close to a 23" Monitor everything feels way too big zoomed in. Any chance this view can get pushed out with a patch?

That's on the agenda to be looked into for a future patch, yeah. No guarantees it'll be doable, but Sara can work miracles, so I'm betting she'll be able to pull it off somehow or another.

Probably through voodoo magic of some sort.

-Tom
 
OH MAN, I'm fiending to play this again but a friend promised to gift it to me as a late birthday gift but he can't until tomorrow (actually, he said "payday," God I hope that's tomorrow).

Oh man that bat demon was a pain in the ass. Question though, is it normal that when I fight bosses the game seems to automatically apply this gross (I think bilinear) filter over everything and then revert back to no filter when it's over?
Gross! x_x;
 

Sara

Member
Yeah, that filter is only in the Chronicles display mode, and I don't like it either, but the way the Chronicles display mode zooms out the screen, it scales EVERYthing -- even the pause menu! It doesn't scale it well, either. If you left Point on during that zoomed-out period it would look beyond nasty. I'll post a screenshot later to show you what I mean, I think. Maybe I can make this an advanced setting for those who REALLY can't stand it, though. But basically at that point the entire game isn't drawing at its native res, so there isn't much of a way to make it look good unfiltered, short of just not zooming out at all and leaving you much less safe in the battles. I'll also clarify that yeah, it's ONLY in Chronicles display mode and ONLY during boss battles. I'm not even sure it happens in Ys II.
 
I think this is most likely going to end up being the real definitive version of the game. The only thing I wish it had was the ability to scale a certain whole number factor within a set resolution, and put black bars around the rest in Complete mode. For example, at 1920x1080, you can fit 640x480*2 (1280x960), but 640x480*3 (1920x1440) is too large. It'd be nice to be able to center that 1280x960 2x image with black bars all around the side within a 1920x1080 image, so you could still have the game full screen but not looking all nasty due to an uneven scaling factor if you're not using filtering.
This is probably possible through your video card drivers. If you have an nvidia card, in the nvidia control panel, you can go to "adjust desktop size and position" on the sidebar, select "no scaling," perform scaling on the GPU (as opposed to display), and check "override scaling mode set by games and programs." That way, you can have a crisp 1280x960 centered on your screen at 1920x1080 resolution. Not quite as convenient as the option being in-game, but it's a makeshift solution.
 

Aeana

Member
This is probably possible through your video card drivers. If you have an nvidia card, you can go to "adjust desktop size and position" on the sidebar, select "no scaling," perform scaling on the GPU (as opposed to display), and check "override scaling mode set by games and programs." That way, you can have a crisp 1280x960 centered on your screen at 1920x1080 resolution. Not quite as convenient as the option being in-game, but it's a makeshift solution.
Yes, it is possible. I just think it'd be nice to have it as part of the game.
 
That's on the agenda to be looked into for a future patch, yeah. No guarantees it'll be doable, but Sara can work miracles, so I'm betting she'll be able to pull it off somehow or another.

Probably through voodoo magic of some sort.

-Tom

Any chance of future DD only games having a physical copy if x people preorder like with Class of Heroes 2? I know its a steam game but it still would have been nice to have a boxed copy of this or something like Corpse Party.
 

Volcynika

Member
Any chance of future DD only games having a physical copy if x people preorder like with Class of Heroes 2? I know its a steam game but it still would have been nice to have a boxed copy of this or something like Corpse Party.

A retail PC game from a niche publisher seems like a tall order. You'd be better off buying the PSP release.
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
What are the battle systems like in these games?

Yep. As Volcynika noted, this one is all about ramming into enemies at high velocity and trying your damnedest to make sure you're lined up slightly off-center so you deal damage without taking any in return. All set to '80s-style glam rock.

Felghana and Origin play out more like... well... think Devil May Cry or God of War, I guess? But faster-paced.

-Tom
 

Eusis

Member
A retail PC game from a niche publisher seems like a tall order. You'd be better off buying the PSP release.
I think our best hope is that Xseed offers premium packages through their website, as I don't see them managing to get this to GameStop, maybe Amazon if we're lucky.

Would've been awesome/crazy to get a $70+ Oath in Felghana package that replicated the original Japanese release though!
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
What the EVERLOVING FUCK at what I'm assuming is the end boss of Ys 1.

No seriously. What?

Did you climb the tower? If not, then no, that's not the final boss -- and there's a trick to beating him, which involves making sure you have the right weapon equipped.

A weapon that's not very easy to find, and requires completing numerous side-quests.

(Just a hunch, but I'm betting that's the boss you're referring to!)

-Tom
 

Taruranto

Member
Yep. As Volcynika noted, this one is all about ramming into enemies at high velocity and trying your damnedest to make sure you're lined up slightly off-center so you deal damage without taking any in return. All set to '80s-style glam rock.

Felghana and Origin play out more like... well... think Devil May Cry or God of War, I guess? But faster-paced.

-Tom

May i ask a question about The Ark of Napishtim?
I know Konami has the license, but any chance for Xseed to acquire it and publish it on Steam? It's a pretty great game (not to mention how it ties all Ys' lore together!), so it's a shame to see it always ignored. (also the PSP version kinda sucks...)
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Did you climb the tower? If not, then no, that's not the final boss -- and there's a trick to beating him, which involves making sure you have the right weapon equipped.

A weapon that's not very easy to find, and requires completing numerous side-quests.

(Just a hunch, but I'm betting that's the boss you're referring to!)

-Tom

Yea this is the top of the tower. I'm using the
silver sword and armor
and have
the blue gemma amulet
equipped as well, but I can't get this punk down past half health.
 
May i ask a question about The Ark of Napishtim?
I know Konami has the license, but any chance for Xseed to acquire it and publish it on Steam? It's a pretty great game, so it's a shame to see it always ignored. (also the PSP version kinda sucks...)
It's been addressed before but Konami wouldn't have any say in the PC release of Napishtim and it's something XSEED is already considering.

I personally can't wait, that game has a very special place in my heart, it turned me around from a very dark few days I had to go through.
 

Sara

Member
Yea this is the top of the tower. I'm using the
silver sword and armor
and have
the blue gemma amulet
equipped as well, but I can't get this punk down past half health.

My advice is to just plain rush him down with no regard for your own safety. Seriously.
 

Eusis

Member
It's been addressed before but Konami wouldn't have any say in the PC release of Napishtim and it's something XSEED is already considering.

I personally can't wait, that game has a very special place in my heart, it turned me around from a very dark few days I had to go through.
Yeah, it'll take a miracle to see the PS2 additions, but just seeing it on Steam from XSEED isn't going to be an issue unless there's something we don't know about.
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
This is just... wow.

I'm gonna find out where the guy who designed this boss sleeps, and I'm going to take a giant shit in his mouth at night.

Ahem.

Um yea, I'm gonna go cool off.
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Ok got him. Switched to the mode with the frames, and for some reason he seemed way slower and the fight was actually managable.
 
Actually, there's one specific spot you need to back her into in order to trigger her FALCOM-WRITTEN AND FALCOM-APPROVED (no, seriously) measurement dialogue.

...And something specific you need to be wearing in order to really creep her out in the process.



Yep! Ys II is much more generous, though -- I *think* it's 75 in Ys II, though I might be mistaken.

-Tom

...reflex armor?
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
...reflex armor?

...Now I've got "The Reflex" stuck in my head. ;)

No, think about the items in your possession. What item could you equip that would be the absolute creepiest possible thing a woman could see as she's being backed into a corner for purposes of measurement?

...Wow, never thought I'd be asking THAT question...

-Tom
 

Aeana

Member
It's creepy enough that it's an achievement for a female character, but there's also one for Talf? And he's like, what, 10? I don't understand why you guys put that one in.
 
...Now I've got "The Reflex" stuck in my head. ;)

No, think about the items in your possession. What item could you equip that would be the absolute creepiest possible thing a woman could see as she's being backed into a corner for purposes of measurement?

...Wow, never thought I'd be asking THAT question...

-Tom

.....Ooooh!
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
It's creepy enough that it's an achievement for a female character, but there's also one for Talf? And he's like, what, 10? I don't understand why you guys put that one in.

Because it's in the game (yes, that was also Falcom, not us!), and if I had to feel dirty getting footage of it for the ESRB, you guys have to feel dirty getting an achievement out of it! ;) Heheheh...

-Tom
 
It's creepy enough that it's an achievement for a female character, but there's also one for Talf? And he's like, what, 10? I don't understand why you guys put that one in.
You'd have to blame Falcom for that one.

At least XSEED is having fun with it ("Police Are On Their Way").
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Hmm I'm pretty stuck in Ys II here.

It's the first boss, I can't hurt him at all with melee. I assume I'm supposed to get him with Fire Magic but my MP is 0/0 and nothing I do seems to increase it. I've found 5 of the 6 shrines, do I need to get all 6 to get access to MP or something?
 

Tain

Member
Okay, to make sure I have this all straight:

Display Mode is either the framed 4:3 view of Complete or the 16:9 view of Chronicles. Makes sense. Chronicles seems to show just a little bit less in terms of the playfield, is that correct? The artwork selection is simple enough. But what is the difference in Game Modes when you start a new game?
 

epmode

Member
So, uh.. How do you quit the game without alt-F4? I see the option at the initial menu but I lose it after loading a game.

edit: Oh, it's in Files. WHY DO I POST WITHOUT LOOKING
 

Sara

Member
Okay, to make sure I have this all straight:

Display Mode is either the framed 4:3 view of Complete or the 16:9 view of Chronicles. Makes sense. Chronicles seems to show just a little bit less in terms of the playfield, is that correct? The artwork selection is simple enough. But what is the difference in Game Modes when you start a new game?
When starting a new game, that's just the artwork selection. Since art selection is tied to the savegame, unlike music.

Hmm I'm pretty stuck in Ys II here.

It's the first boss, I can't hurt him at all with melee. I assume I'm supposed to get him with Fire Magic but my MP is 0/0 and nothing I do seems to increase it. I've found 5 of the 6 shrines, do I need to get all 6 to get access to MP or something?
You need to go to a Goddess Statue to gain access to MP.
 
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