Explosion (4,5/5)
Just Press Start (9)
Hardcore Gamer (4,5/5)
Tech Gaming (85%)
Positive impressions overall.
The sooner people understands that Metacritic is useless, the better.
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Ys: Memories of Celceta |OT|: The Ys-iest Purchase You'll Make All Year (Now For EUs)
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Explosion (4,5/5)
Just Press Start (9)
Hardcore Gamer (4,5/5)
Tech Gaming (85%)
Positive impressions overall.
The sooner people understands that Metacritic is useless, the better.
Randam_Hajile
Member
Same here. I get really sick of Amazon constantly bashing and denting my collectors edition boxes. >_<
Hmm, maybe it IS worth paying that extra $5 with GameStop for Bravely Default on second thought... Amazon can be good at times, but it's a real crapshot if you want pristine packaging. If you're more tolerant however it's just fine.
cpp_is_king
Member
If Metacritic is useless, then so are the reviews you just posted. Because that's where Metacritic's score comes from.
I think the point he was trying to make is that Metacritic doesn't do well to distinguish between point systems out of 5 and point systems out of 10 (a 3 out of 5 is generally a more favorable review on a 5-point system than a 6 out of 10 is on a 10-point system), and also gives individual review sites a specific degree of "weight" based on readership or... something. Which is all very arbitrary. Any time you base your score on the idea that one person's opinion is more valid than another's, there's a problem.
Ideally, Metacritic would adjust scores based on the stated median for each site, and would give every single site equal weight.
-Tom
Man, I feel like such a boner deluxe for doubting this game at the start. I'm in full blown love with it now. I'm on my second dungeon (which is actually the place I probably should have FIRST gone to) and everything's finally clicked. I thought the pacing was off/poor, but I ended up accessing the "second" dungeon first which is why it took me so long to get a feel for the game. At first, the design of the forest wasn't doing it for me, but there are SO MANY wrap around logs/bridges which create shortcuts & shit, it's just...so perfect. Love, love, love the character specific field abilities too. I think I went from thinking this game was going to have ass-dungeons to instead feeling like they can chill with the best of them!
Crimsonsky
Member
There's nothing really wrong with the story. So you have to read a bit, are you really that impatient? The combat isn't going anywhere, it'll be there in just a few minutes.
Maybe it's just me, but I want a narrative in my RPG's now. The days of games like Class of Heroes and Etrian Odyssey and "Rogue-likes" is just behind me. I need more engagement than what those games offer. I like a good dungeon as much as the next guy, but it isn't enough to sustain a game. Not for me anyway, not anymore.
Maybe it's just me, but I want a narrative in my RPG's now. The days of games like Class of Heroes and Etrian Odyssey and "Rogue-likes" is just behind me. I need more engagement than what those games offer. I like a good dungeon as much as the next guy, but it isn't enough to sustain a game. Not for me anyway, not anymore.
Regarding Amazon shipping damage, it may just depend on where you live. I received my Amazon copy of the Limited Edition in Bermuda on Saturday and it's pristine. It was delivered to a more businessy area in the US, so perhaps business deliverers take more care in their handling.
For me a game with a good story and characters is a nice little bonus, but it's not something I weigh heavily, or even really want. For me it can still be something that sours the rest of the game, even one that plays well, if the story is truly awful (Tales of Graces) but it can't elevate a game that is boring or no fun to play in the first place (speaking generally, not talking Ys here). This is all, of course, just my opinion (who else's?)
The story here is inoffensive and some of the ideas in it are actually rather interesting. It doesn't take anything away from the game but it doesn't add much to it either. Just wish it was a little less wordy.
disastermouse
Banned
Was Ys ever on a non-handheld console? If so, which ones?
Literally every Falcom game other than Seven and Celceta. Ys I-III debuted on computers, IV and V were console native (PC Engine CD/Super Famicom and Super Famicom respectively, with the two versions of IV being very different though neither actually developed by Falcom themselves) and VI, Oath in Felghana, and Origins came on PC first and only Oath had a worthwhile PSP version, VI's PSP port was infamously bad and Origins simply never showed up.
There's a spinoff Strategy game that's DS only, may've hit Europe (can't remember) but wasn't considered particularly great as I recall, then there's an MMO and some other stuff out there for PC.
Yeah, the female shouldn't be attacking on sight.
Oh god...lol. I was definitely sneaking up on a male.
Let's pretend this never happened.
Well, almost. There's not a single piece of art from Dawn of Ys in there, for whatever reason. Still not sure why that is.
Let's see how thorough an answer I can give you.
Ys I appeared on the Sega Master System, Famicom, PC-Engine (TurboGrafx-16) CD, Sega Saturn and PS2 in Japan. Of these versions, the Sega Master System and TurboGrafx-16 CD versions were released stateside, along with an MS-DOS version.
Ys II appeared on all of the above-noted consoles except the Sega Master System, which only ever got Ys I for some reason. It got released stateside for TurboGrafx-16 CD only (I think the MS-DOS version was solely Ys I, but I might be mistaken on that).
Ys III appeared on the TurboGrafx-16 CD, SNES and Genesis, pretty much worldwide. It also got a PS2 port in Japan, though the entire battle system was changed for it, and while some like it better, many (myself included) consider it a major step down from the original console versions.
Three very different versions of Ys IV appeared on the PC-Engine CD, Super Famicom and PS2 in Japan. Of these three, only the PC-Engine CD version is worthwhile IMHO. You'll occasionally see some love for the Super Famicom version too, but you will NEVER see any love for the PS2 version.
Ys V only ever appeared on the Super Famicom and PS2 in Japan. There was also an "Ys V Expert" released for the Super Famicom. The PS2 version is very different from the Super Famicom version.
Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim was released on PS2 worldwide. This version of the game features 3D polygonal models in place of character sprites and new 3D CG opening and ending cutscenes, though a cheat code can be used to disable the new cutscenes and view the original anime opening and ending movies if you're playing the American or Japanese version of the game. The 3D polygonal models for the characters, however, cannot be disabled in this version.
...And that should be everything, as far as non-handheld consoles go. Oath in Felghana is PC and PSP only, Ys Seven was a PSP exclusive until it got a Chinese PC port, Ys Origin is a PC exclusive (with a cell phone port, apparently?), and Ys Celceta is a Vita exclusive.
Let me know if I'm missing anything!
I hate to break it to you, but THAT'S NOT MILK.
-Tom
Dogfacedgod
Member
It's huge!
They really did put "everything" in it.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to pick this up.
Ok. So I'm at the last dungeon.
and I'm SO DISAPPOINTED THAT FALCOM DIDN'T PUT THE AWESOME TEMPLE OF THE SUN track!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y8PvAz4uhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdMlxmOwgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvthDkAKL5E
WTF FALCOM?!!
and I'm SO DISAPPOINTED THAT FALCOM DIDN'T PUT THE AWESOME TEMPLE OF THE SUN track!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y8PvAz4uhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdMlxmOwgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvthDkAKL5E
WTF FALCOM?!!
On the plus side, the track they DID use is pretty amazing. And is an arrangement of a Mask of the Sun track, too, which makes it kind of special!
-Tom
Sithlord77
Banned
Excellent. Ordered. Should have mine in a week or two as it's gonna ship from Canada to Uk.
Anyway how is this game? I've only ever played through one Ys game and that was Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim on PS2 which I really enjoyed. Loved the soundtrack. Dabbled a bit in Ys 7 on PSP or was it Oath? Anyway I really liked that too especially the action rpg gameplay and music. Didn't get very far in it as I got sidetracked with life stuff.
I'd've fought tooth and nail for that track if anyone else objected to its inclusion on the CD set. It's one of my favorite overworld themes of all time! In fact, I've even ranked it as such once before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aep5QeaAtNw
Sooooo good...
-Tom
i really like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuLvRhOhGNM&list=FLdFPe-A9gof6G07viF_7Unw&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuLvRhOhGNM&list=FLdFPe-A9gof6G07viF_7Unw&index=3
So Tom dunno if you have any idea or not, but is Trails FC still on track for its Winter 2013 steam release? It's already December and I don't recall hearing much about it since they announced it so, uh, just getting a little worried I won't have time to power through it in time to have a save for SC lol.
nailbombxx
Member
These beaver things in the water dungeon are so cute yet absolutely terrifying at the same time. THEM CLAWS.
Winter, probably still happening. 2013, though? Almost definitely not. Sorry. Can't even 100% guarantee it'll make it by the end of the season, but... it should.
You'll have more than enough time between FC and SC, though, I think. SC is still relatively far out.
-Tom
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
A bit late to the party, but wanted to say Great OT!
Also reminded me I need to pick this up D:
Also reminded me I need to pick this up D:
Cool, thanks! I still have the recently translated Ys V to play and another Felghana run to do anyways, so I imagine I'll stay busy somehow in the meantime lol. Oh and speaking of Ys stuff and the PC: are you guys planning to put Ark of Naphtism up on steam? It and Ys 5 are now the only games in the series I haven't played in some form, and I've been thinking about importing the PCv and using a fan translation for while now but have been holding off because I wanted to give you guys the benefit of the doubt (and my money!) that you might eventually bring it over. I mean is it something you guys are even capable of doing considering Konami (?) localized it last time? Do they still have the rights to the game in the west, or was that just for the PSP/PS2 versions that they did? Thanks for any and all answers!
Far as I know, Konami only owns the rights to the PS2 and PSP versions. The PC version should be up for grabs, and we're definitely considering it.
-Tom
bishopcruz
Member
Tom,
Just don't. Don't even try. There is no excuse, there will never BE an excuse. The lack of that track is unforgivable. And I'm not even joking. Music was far and away the weakest link in this game, which amazes me because I came to love the Ys IV OSTs, and this one really lost the plot. The arrangements themselves were pretty good, (well save Leo, his song got butchered.) but the number of tracks is just bad. And I'm only a little joking.
I just cannot understand how Falcom, in making a game that is over twice the length of any of the Ys IVs, decides to cut out like half of the music. It's not that there wasn't room for it, hell there are MORE dungeons and overworld areas, and it's not like the game was too big size wise, it's what around 1 gig? I've never been one to call Falcom lazy, but this OST sure felt that way. 35 tracks. Ys IV had 55 for the Perfect Collections alone, not counting the mega-mixes. Even if you take out the Ys I and II reused music, that still leaves a full 46 tracks, not even counting the SFC exclusive ones.
No character themes for your party, no theme for Lisa. The best dungeon music left out, the best field music left out. It just makes me sad.
I mean, how can you not have:
Field
Karna
Bronze District
Crimson Wings
Just to name a few. It's not like 1 or 2 favorite tracks are missing. Over 20 tracks from previous Ys IV games were cut or replaced. That is really really sad.
I mean not evenGame Over made it. And Theme of Adol 1993 barely even counts.
Were the Japanese as pissed about this as I am? I mean Ys IV and Vs osts have always FELT like the bastard stepchildren of the Ys world, but this is vindictive.
Wolf Akela
Member
What's with the gold... rabbit thing I found in Celceta Forest at the beginning? 0 damage.
Dogfacedgod
Member
I ran into that guy couple times. Chased it quite a while too to no avail. I figure it will be revealed later in the game.
Think it's a gold pikkard. But not sure when you can kill it, I think there is a trophy or something for it at least.
My anecdotal evidence says yes but I haven't extensively tested.
Well this mechanic has quickly begun to annoy me!dwarf ring, being small sucks~
Love this game though.
You get the ability to retain full strength and defense with it later on, so that should be something to look forward to.
-Tom
HiddenAway
Member
Might want to pencil in an EU date for February 2014 (skip to 1:41)...
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetw...iler/cid=EP1063-PCSB00497_00-EVI0000000000158
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetw...iler/cid=EP1063-PCSB00497_00-EVI0000000000158
Vita wallpapers are now up on the main website, if anyone's interested:
http://www.worldofys.com/celceta/vita-wallpapers.html
-Tom
http://www.worldofys.com/celceta/vita-wallpapers.html
-Tom
bishopcruz
Member
Well finally tackling the final dungeon after a break for a few days. All quests are done, trailed Mishy everywhere, and made 2 of the Ultimate weapons.
Still have no idea how to get the chest on the first map of Lake P, though, it's driving me crazy. Curious to see how it all turns out, after being disappointed in the change that was the location of (late game)
Still have no idea how to get the chest on the first map of Lake P, though, it's driving me crazy. Curious to see how it all turns out, after being disappointed in the change that was the location of (late game)
The Mask of the Moon. It was so much cooler when it was the mask of eyes.
SixStringPsycho
Member
I'm really loving the gameplay on this one. It reminds of Ys seven. But one thing is bothering. In no way the music in this game compares to that of ys seven or oath. I mean. Everytime a boss showed up in either game the music pumped me uo. In this one, it feels bland. I don't know. Somethings missing.