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Ys: Memories of Celceta |OT|: The Ys-iest Purchase You'll Make All Year (Now For EUs)

I am close to the end of the game, and I could not put it down. I really loved this game so much. Anyway, I'm curious about the "non-canon" Ys IV. From what I read from HG101, the premise of the story is similar, but each took a different interpretation of the plot. If that's the case, I am curious about the characters. Is Duren or Karna from the other Ys IV games have a different personality than the ones I know from Memories of Celceta?
 

Zafir

Member
My copy finally came from VG+. Perfect condition and no import fees so I'm happy. :)

Just need to find time to play it what with how much came out this autumn.
 
I really hate the "go around and talk to everyone in town" segments of this game, especially when you miss one person and have to run around the town talking to everyone again just to find that one conversation so you can play the game again.
 

Levyne

Banned
I really hate the "go around and talk to everyone in town" segments of this game.

Yes. Me too. I was very glad in one of the later cities when you literally could skip it.

"Oh, have you seen everything you wanted to?"

"YES, DAMNIT"

When I first did it in Comodo, it was fine, I wanted to talk to people. Just for some background knowledge on some characters, flesh out the city, etc. But in every place after I ended up having to re-search the buildings after missing one scene on the first go around.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Should I have gone to the tree first or to seelray first? I went to seelray with Ozma but I almost feel like I missed something.
 

kuroshiki

Member
I am close to the end of the game, and I could not put it down. I really loved this game so much. Anyway, I'm curious about the "non-canon" Ys IV. From what I read from HG101, the premise of the story is similar, but each took a different interpretation of the plot. If that's the case, I am curious about the characters. Is Duren or Karna from the other Ys IV games have a different personality than the ones I know from Memories of Celceta?

I only played Dawn of YS long long time ago, but I don't think Duren, Ozma, Cali, Freida was in there. Heck, whole this 'mask division' romun soldier was not there either, naturally the brother of Karna was there but not big exposure.
 

Levyne

Banned
I think finding Comodo first feels more natural, almost as if you have to go out of your way to avoid it, but it doesn't really matter. You're reunited with Karna and Ozma in that order as well. Which, admittedly, doesn't mean much but if you just finished Karna's introductory story segment it kind of felt a bit weird to be "reunited" after just leaving Comodo.
 

jdkluv

Member
I only played Dawn of YS long long time ago, but I don't think Duren, Ozma, Cali, Freida was in there.

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pa22word

Member
Is it just me or is this game kind of blurry?

That's because it's rendering at an internal resolution that's lower than the native resolution of the Vita screen.

I think finding Comodo first feels more natural, almost as if you have to go out of your way to avoid it, but it doesn't really matter. You're reunited with Karna and Ozma in that order as well. Which, admittedly, doesn't mean much but if you just finished Karna's introductory story segment it kind of felt a bit weird to be "reunited" after just leaving Comodo.

Yeah it kind of blows my mind you can even head to Selray first o_O

I'll have to do that on my NG+ run lol
 

hawk2025

Member
I am close to the end of the game, and I could not put it down. I really loved this game so much. Anyway, I'm curious about the "non-canon" Ys IV. From what I read from HG101, the premise of the story is similar, but each took a different interpretation of the plot. If that's the case, I am curious about the characters. Is Duren or Karna from the other Ys IV games have a different personality than the ones I know from Memories of Celceta?



How long did it take you?
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Beat the game earlier today. It was alright. Combat was fun but nothing extremely deep. The story was shallow. Unbelievably so, however, by the end of the game I appreciated is some what "artistic" choice. It was a novelty in all honesty. Overall I had a good time.
 
That's because it's rendering at an internal resolution that's lower than the native resolution of the Vita screen.



Yeah it kind of blows my mind you can even head to Selray first o_O

I'll have to do that on my NG+ run lol

How much lower? I noticed this in Gravity Rush and Uncharted but those games just looked more softer than native. This game looks actually blurry which is what gets me.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
How much lower? I noticed this in Gravity Rush and Uncharted but those games just looked more softer than native. This game looks actually blurry which is what gets me.

A lot lower if I'm using the method from that resolution thread correctly (probably not). Like 640 x 360(?), but the blur makes it hard to count the steps.
 

Yuterald

Member
Yo, Tower of Providence is some real Ys talk. Did I just see a reference to Ys Napishtim?
Did they just refer to the weather system from Ys 6? That winged god was there and got ideas for that tower, lol!?
So cool.
 

pa22word

Member
Should I sell the Gold Pedestal Replica?

If you don't care about trophies I would. As is I'm not entirely sure how the item trophy works. Do you have to have 100% of the items on you or do you simply have to have had them at one time? Depending on the answer you might want to hold onto it considering there's only one drop for the item afaik.


Near the end of the game and find out there are missable trophies. Sucks!

Eh, considering it's impossible to 100% the trophy list (item completion trophy + selray blacksmith weapons) in a single run anyways it's not that big of a deal to me imo.


Also speaking of trophies, what are the last 6ish hidden trophies for? I initially assumed difficulty, but there's more hidden trophies than difficulties remaining to clear for me ?_?
 

Dio

Banned
I'm in Ancient Burrow on Nightmare.

This game is amazing. Also, Nightmare is actually reasonably hard - it's definitely harder than Seven was. However, it isn't topping Oath in Felghana on Inferno; now THAT was hard.
 
How long did it take you?

I just beat the game, and it took me 34 hours. I took my time and did every sidequest in the game. Lol at the last two bosses;
The boss at the Iris was really easy. After I destroyed the 3 pillars, he was subdued very easily with Duren's Dragon Kick and Adol's Aura Fencer. The dual at Mt. Vesuvio was easy as well because I spammed Aura Fencer.

Overall, the high point of the game was the gameplay. The skills in the game were actually useful thanks to the attribute stats. As always, the music was awesome; although they recycled the soundtrack too many times.I didn't mind about the story and the characters. It was serviceable, but not to a point where the characters were unlikable. Anyway, the low point of the game was definitely the first 3 towns. I did not like how I have to look around town and talk to everyone. It was ridiculous how that one NPC from the inn happened to be person that initiate advancement in the plot. There were some repetitions, but it didn't deter the game too much. Yeah, I got hooked to Ys: Memories of Celceta from start to finish.
 
I was gonna wait a bit but I decided to ask for this as a Christmas gift this year instead.

I still need a bigger memory card though.

*still bitter about missing the Vita Memory Card sale*
 

jdkluv

Member
I'm in Ancient Burrow on Nightmare.

This game is amazing. Also, Nightmare is actually reasonably hard - it's definitely harder than Seven was. However, it isn't topping Oath in Felghana on Inferno; now THAT was hard.

bitch pls. I've beat Brandish 2: The Planet Buster aka the finest game ever just one day ago.
 

pa22word

Member
I'm sitting at 97% of the map, where is the last 3% of the map? From what I can tell I've cover every area fully.

Have you done the last area yet? You get around 1.3ish percent off the final run, and a little bit of that is after the PNR.

Also can anyone who 100%'d the map post their map screen shot here? It'd be really helpful to those of us stuck in the high 90s to compare and find what we've missed.
 
Just beat the game. Game was incredible. But it soured a bit with that ending. Not to Mass Effect levels, but holy shit.

They were LI-TUH-ERALLY one scene away from having a more than decent ending. I just wanted some closure instead I get "hey we're gonna give some closure. LOL NOPE THE END"
 

pa22word

Member
Just beat the game. Game was incredible. But it soured a bit with that ending. Not to Mass Effect levels, but holy shit.

They were LI-TUH-ERALLY one scene away from having a more than decent ending. I just wanted some closure instead I get "hey we're gonna give some closure. LOL NOPE THE END"

I don't really get the hate with the ending tbqh. (safety spoiler tag)
Prior to the finale every character's arc came to a close with satisfactory (if not a little bittersweet for some) endings and Adol ended the threat to the world by tossing the one ring o--er, the Mask of the Sun into the Volcano and finishing Gruda for good. Just because it didn't have the archetypical send off for Adol where you see him ridding of into the sunset while all the party members wave him off doesn't make it a bad ending.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
One of these days I'll know more about this series than the fact that it has cool character design and awesome music 100% of the time.
 
I don't really get the hate with the ending tbqh. (safety spoiler tag)
Prior to the finale every character's arc came to a close with satisfactory (if not a little bittersweet for some) endings and Adol ended the threat to the world by tossing the one ring o--er, the Mask of the Sun into the Volcano and finishing Gruda for good. Just because it didn't have the archetypical send off for Adol where you see him ridding of into the sunset while all the party members wave him off doesn't make it a bad ending.

It wasn't necessarily a bad ending, it just could've been better and avoided this by adding just one more scene imho. Sure the
send-off
is cliched but the story wasn't tearing down walls of story writing, and it's cliched in the sense that it works and isn't a hated one per se.

I'm left in assuming there was some closure since there's that extra scene at the end of the credits (and there's more games), but as a guy who just invested 20+ hours with these characters I was disappointed that
I couldn't at least get to say goodbye
. The last bit is a bit similar to Bioware's added scene since that was a big complaint. I grew attached yo.

Having said that, now I'm really looking forward to getting the Steam games as I understand the
blue haired dude in the flashbacks is in it
. I've seen the gameplay vids and it'll be awkward going from 3D huge map to somewhat pixel-art and zones, but I'll manage. As long as the party members are as great as this.

Hopefully they eventually remake the other 2-3 main series games after this one.
 
I bought the game two days ago. Is my first Ys game. I'm liking it, but I need to complain about something in the story, even if is a minor thought.

Leeza sucks. Is the low tier of a cast of highy charismatic characters, and:

Her actions trying to steal the mask and fighting her friends only because "Obviously Evil Guy" told her bullshit should be handheld better than "HEHEHE I fucked up ;P

"Quick witted and courageous" my ass.
 
I hope not. Solo Ys is best Ys. They don't need the party treatment.

Well I'll form a better opinion once I play the other 3-4 titles currently available on Steam. But party systems are really great imho.

edit: to those that have Played Ys I and II, are they worth playing? I've been seeing some gameplay videos and from what I see, Ys Oath in Felghana and Ys Origins might be more in my field as they control somewhat similarly in terms of combat. While Ys I and II have the bump system where you run into enemies. I'm not sure if in a game where combat was largely where my enjoyment came from, if I could enjoy the bump system.
 

RangerBAD

Member
Well I'll form a better opinion once I play the other 3-4 titles currently available on Steam. But party systems are really great imho.

edit: to those that have Played Ys I and II, are they worth playing? I've been seeing some gameplay videos and from what I see, Ys Oath in Felghana and Ys Origins might be more in my field as they control somewhat similarly in terms of combat. While Ys I and II have the bump system where you run into enemies. I'm not sure if in a game where combat was largely where my enjoyment came from, if I could enjoy the bump system.

It takes a little time to get used to, but it's not as bad as you think. Plus, you get to see the full evolution of the series' battle system.
 

pa22word

Member
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Finally :D

Also to the people also hunting this one it's important to know that you must have 99.7% before you hit the game's PNR
(the battle with stone gruda)
in order for the game to give you the trophy.



Eh, I still disagree. While a sendoff wouldn't have hurt the game at all I like that it ended with ambiguity as to the characters fates after the events of the core plot because it lets me piece together in my mind what they ended up doing in the future after Adol went off to do the events of Ys V, and that's always more satisfying than it just giving me a dump at the end imo.

I also disagree that it's anyway near comparable to what Bioware did in ME3. (ME3 and Celceta spoilers)
In ME3 the ending left the universe in such a state that it was basically completely FUBAR'd, whereas here the game ends with a state of harmony, thus you aren't left with big 'ol character blue balls wondering if they survived or lived good lives post the events of the game. It's also kind of heinous to compare the two of them because all of the characters also completed their respective arcs here. Ozma, karna, Calilica, Frieda, and Duran all wrapped up their development within the core plot, and leaving what they did with their new found state of being in a post-Eldeel Celceta up to the players to work out on their own is in no way comparable to Bioware dumping the entire cast on a planet out in the middle of nowhere.

Also does anyone know if I can score the Nightmare trophy on a NG+ run? Just wondering because I plan on cleaning up the rest of the game's trophies all in one go if I can.

Speaking of NG+ though, it's kind of disappointing how they did it. Only bosses and optional bosses seem to scale with you, everything else doesn't, which means 95% of the game is going to be a complete snoozefest on NG+ due to how overwhelmingly powerful you are lol
 

Eusis

Member
I hope not. Solo Ys is best Ys. They don't need the party treatment.
Admittedly STRICTLY speaking about remakes (not in just Ys Seven form) I've felt Ys V would be one of the best targets for an Ys VI-style remake much like III got in Oath in Felghana. Seemed to me that Ys VI was sort of what Ys V should've been design wise (adding jumping and an actual attack button... but having a gameplay pace and soundtrack more appropriately Ys) so I'd really like to see them carry through with that, though given the praise Ys V's story got it should probably be mostly left alone much like how Oath in Felghana wasn't a drastic re-write of Ys III, just one adapted to fit better with the rest of the series.
 

pa22word

Member
Admittedly STRICTLY speaking about remakes (not in just Ys Seven form) I've felt Ys V would be one of the best targets for an Ys VI-style remake much like III got in Oath in Felghana.

Eh, I disagree with this simply because I feel the with the way Ys V is set up in its sort of meeting point between Zelda and Ys sort of way it would be best served remade in the style of this game (Celceta), with a vast overworld to explore and adventure through.

How do you fill in the map around Highland?


Don't worry about that smudged area in Highland for 100%. It's inconsequential to your map progress. Dunno why they left it like that, because you're right in that it does leave you to think you missed something there.
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
Well I'll form a better opinion once I play the other 3-4 titles currently available on Steam. But party systems are really great imho.

edit: to those that have Played Ys I and II, are they worth playing? I've been seeing some gameplay videos and from what I see, Ys Oath in Felghana and Ys Origins might be more in my field as they control somewhat similarly in terms of combat. While Ys I and II have the bump system where you run into enemies. I'm not sure if in a game where combat was largely where my enjoyment came from, if I could enjoy the bump system.

Ys I & II show their age a bit more than the other titles in the series, but are still fantastic games (Ys II in particular). I might suggest playing Felghana beforehand, just to see what solo Adol games are typically like (since there are more in that style than there are in the bump system style), but I think Ys I & II would probably be good choices to check out immediately after THAT, and before Ys Origin (since you'll get more out of Ys Origin if you're familiar with the story, characters and settings of Ys I & II).

Just remember, when you play Ys I & II, that they're products of 1987 and 1988, and try to put yourself in the mindset of that era. The stories don't hold up very well nowadays, but for the time, they were pretty mind-blowing... and some of the features found in Ys II, like the ability to talk to every monster in the game once you have the right spell, are really incredible even by today's standards, much less 1988's.

Also, even if you don't like Ys I, be sure to give Ys II a try. It's much less obtuse, much better-paced, and has so much more breadth of content to it that it really is a far superior game in almost every regard.

-Tom
 
Well I'll form a better opinion once I play the other 3-4 titles currently available on Steam. But party systems are really great imho.

edit: to those that have Played Ys I and II, are they worth playing? I've been seeing some gameplay videos and from what I see, Ys Oath in Felghana and Ys Origins might be more in my field as they control somewhat similarly in terms of combat. While Ys I and II have the bump system where you run into enemies. I'm not sure if in a game where combat was largely where my enjoyment came from, if I could enjoy the bump system.

I replayed Ys I-II earlier this year and I believe they are worth playing, the music and gameplay are great , but I would not recommend it as your first Ys.

I REALLY recommend you to play Ys: The Oath in Felghana(in case you're curious, it's a ramake of Ys III) before going into I-II.

Origin is great, but I'd recommend you to play I-II before for story reasons.
 
All right so Ys Oath, then I and II, then Origins. All right I'll give them a try. From what I understand they're fairly short. I also appreciate the XSEED marketing team coming to give their thoughts on the order and story.
 
All right so Ys Oath, then I and II, then Origins. All right I'll give them a try. From what I understand they're fairly short. I also appreciate the XSEED marketing team coming to give their thoughts on the order and story.

That's the order I'd recommend. I really love Origin, but to get the most out of it you have to finish it 3 times(it's not as bad as it sounds, really).

I kind of want to play it again over how much I love it.
 
That's the order I'd recommend. I really love Origin, but to get the most out of it you have to finish it 3 times(it's not as bad as it sounds, really).

I kind of want to play it again over how much I love it.

Not as bad as it sounds? It's awesome every time. It's a bonus feature!
 
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