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Zach Braff wants your Kickstarter money for a Garden State follow up
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It depends on what is on offer. A soundtrack and a production diary is pathetic. Profit sharing or copies of end products are more interesting.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
It would have involved sacrifices like not getting to keep all of the money.
And is this the first movie campaign that doesn't even come with a copy of the movie in some form?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Kickstart less Scrubs.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
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Yup, how many seasons of Scrubs? in which he got paid as an actor AND producer / writer, on top of the bank he made from Garden State etc...
Sure, his film career didn't take off the way they thought it would but still, he could finance this shit himself.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The only thing eye rolly here (besides that this is a celebritystarter) is that $2m is becoming the new Go-To Goal.
Shatner's Bassoon
Member
That plot synopsis was cringe inducing.
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brb, will register www.investstarter.com - instead of stupid cheap rewards you would get your investment back + bonus in case the project succeeds.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
FunkyMunkey
Banned
A "genuinely good" service that has already let a millionaire milk it and scam for tens of thousands of dollars, you mean? The people at KickStarter are only in it for the money.
And Mr. Braff can use 1/100 of his wealth to finance this if his heart is truly in it. Asking others to fund it, and then pocketing the money it makes, is ridiculous. KickStarting a project is NOT the same as investing, buying stocks, any of that. It's giving people free money for an idea, in return for a tiered and mostly shitty(unless you're already rich and donate a lot) consolation prize.
Burger
Member
I would actually invest in things if it followed the traditional definition of the word, instead of these 'donations'.
teruterubozu
Member
Garden State and Veronica Mars was almost 10 years ago. Get over it.
Shatner's Bassoon
Member
Now I'm listening. We'll need to workshop it a bit more though.
Maybe Rob can turn into something during the film? or we can get Adam Sandler and Kevin James to play the children using some poor CGI.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Yup.
Also think there's a few special cases were you are happy just to donate and help a product you want, but of course that goes for me at least for way smaller fish and not someone like Braff lol
I wonder why noone has done such thing on the web similar to kickstarter. That would allow thousands of "little people" to actually invest into things. I mean kickstarter is: take all the risk, get almost nothing in return (boxed copy of a game for $150, digital copy of something for just $50 hahaha) and that's it. It should get renamed to ripoffstarter.com
I know right? It didn't even attempt to subvert or deconstruct the tropes, like say (500) Days of Summer. It was just a straight manic pixie dream girl movie.
The more I think about it, the more I hope this fails.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yes.
The people in charge are hypocrits, yes, but I do not believe it is out of "greed" or malice.
I believe, from everything that I've read, that they genuinely believe that they are Changing The World. It's just that they fucking suck at it.
This is what happens when a bunch of hipsters make a company that ends up making shitloads of money overnight. They are so caught up in their own "Fuck The Man" mentality that they honestly don't understand that they are now a company just like any other company.
And regardless of all of the above: Kickstarter is a business. Getting a cut is how it stays one. I don't see what is so bad about this. Would you approve if Kickstarter didn't make any money at all? Is that more noble? How much money is "only in it for the money"? What does that even mean? What is Kickstarter supposed to do other than give other people a fundraising platform? From where I'm standing, they only have one obligation: to make money. It's not up to you to White Knight them into changing their rules, or enforcing them. They will learn soon enough that they need to shape the fuck up.
Well, yes.
That's just a given.
The great thing is, however, that I don't need to give Zachary Braffington any of my money. And I don't need to worry about people that do. If Kickstarter's reputation gets tarred because of something they did, that's their problem.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Depends on the budget. We may be able to get them to voice two gay Manikins. The story will have to be based in a mall or something.
Burger
Member
Kickstarter has a brand plus you think these celebrity assholes want to use a site where they give away the lions share of the profit?
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Give me a digital download and I'll chip in.
For now I'm awaiting better rewards.
For now I'm awaiting better rewards.
Burger
Member
Louis C.K. sells his special in high def DRM free for $5.
Zach Braff wants $20 for a soundtrack that you get to stream from a link. Pre order now.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
I'm a sucker, but a damn blissfully ignorant one!
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Kickstart this shit.
GOONIES 2
Not a direct sequel but more a tale of Chunk and Sloth living together. The main story can progress through character appearances from the original movie to please the fans, but the main story is Chunk and Sloth living together.
GOONIES 2
Not a direct sequel but more a tale of Chunk and Sloth living together. The main story can progress through character appearances from the original movie to please the fans, but the main story is Chunk and Sloth living together.
and a millionaire.
I find it weird how GAF generally seemed to love the Veronica Mars thing and now when others try and do the same they're getting trashed for it. I'm really in two minds about this. On the one hand these people are rich and are basically asking for free money, but then again, more fool whoever is willing to throw their own money at them. It's probably no coincidence that Melissa Joan Hart and Zach Braff are both heavily involved in producing their own content, not just acting in it. They're smart. If they can get a free lunch, then they will take it.
Some sort of profit share should be the minimum expectation for these type of projects. If the studios themselves actually opened up the financing of individual indie projects and the investors get a profit-share in return, then that could be really interesting.
But seeing has-been actors plug and finance their latest shit nobody cares about on Kickstarter, and they'll maybe follow you on twitter for a couple of months, is insulting.
Some sort of profit share should be the minimum expectation for these type of projects. If the studios themselves actually opened up the financing of individual indie projects and the investors get a profit-share in return, then that could be really interesting.
But seeing has-been actors plug and finance their latest shit nobody cares about on Kickstarter, and they'll maybe follow you on twitter for a couple of months, is insulting.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
I think, or would like to think, that posters here understand that people have the right to invest their money in such projects if they so wish. But at the same time, many of us feel that Braff is taking advantage of such individuals by posing the request in the first place. It's a disgusting use of public appeal, especially when he most likely has the money to do it himself, or could at least get a loan for it.
The difference is the project itself.
A Veronica Mars Movie has been highly requested by fans of the series for years, but was just not happening, despite many tries by the creator and fans alike. This movie would simply not exist if it wasn't for this Kickstarter.
A new indie movie, made by someone that made a popular indie-movie once, that is a well-off actor to boot, is just not that appealing. Esp. considering this movie would (and will) still exist even if this Kickstarter fails.
Also, if the lower tier rewards don't even include an actual (digital) copy of the finished product, people tend to not want to give you their money to make something. I don't even see how that is in compliance with Kickstarter rules, it wouldn't be if I was in charge.
Yes.
Burger
Member
If you donate $7000 you still don't get to see the film. Well you do, you just have to pay for it.
I know, in my view it should be simple for any kickstarter. Once you hit the market value of the product (or at least something reasonably close to it), include the product as a reward.
If you kickstart a low-budget media PC that's worth a 100 dollars, than you should have a 100 (I'll go so far and accept 150 because productioncost/other rewards) dollar reward tier of the actual PC. Shouldn't be any different for a movie, there should be a mandatory 15 dollar reward tier that rewards you with a digital copy of the movie. That's what your kickstarting after all.
Kickstarter, at least I believe, isn't just about getting something made just so that it exists for you to own, but to get something you really want made... And then actually GET IT. But meh, their website, their rules. I just hope Braff doesn't get rewarded for this.
Douglas Quaid
Member
Braff you fuckin' scrub.
Crowdsourcing - the newest way for rich people (leveraging their fame) to exploit dumb middle class/poor people.
Crowdsourcing - the newest way for rich people (leveraging their fame) to exploit dumb middle class/poor people.
Ken Masters
Banned
He would risk someone's life before his own money
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, this one is ridiculous. I'm with Dynamite on this one. They guy is still a bankable star that could take any number of projects to any number of studios to get made and just also happens to be a multi-millionaire. Asking for donations when you're far, far richer than the people who have your hand held out too is just crass. Then add in the fact that the rewards are written is such a way that it legitimately seems that the actual "reward" is donating your money to Braff.
No thanks.
No thanks.
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