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Zelda: A Link Between Worlds |OT| All in all you're just another Link in the wall
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Haha, wow, that's basically a one-hit kill from almost everything. Do you use fairies?
Me too.
I'm going to be bottling a load of them once I've got more bottles, yes.
No fairies in Dark Souls. Stick to potions!
I think it would be more difficult, but perhaps still reasonable to have more hearts (i.e as many as you want), but not using anything in a bottle. Only withstanding 1 or 2 hits would be tougher than the 5 hits you get with faeries. Granted, I'm not hardcore enough to do such a run myself.
whyyyy won't anybody tell me how/where!!
Bottles (from the top of my head):
- Bought from that merchant in Kakariko
- Found under the bridge in the east of Hyrule
- Found in the southeast in Hyrule, contains a letter that tells you to bring Premium Milk to a guy on Death Mountain. You get the bottle afterwards.
- Found in the Lorule version of your house, bomb the back of the house and enter from there.
- Received as a reward for throwing 3000 rupees into the fairy fountain in Lorule
And some additional text here, so you can't tell the number of bottles from the length of the spoiler alone.
Wouldn't want to spoil that, would I now?
- Found under the bridge in the east of Hyrule
- Found in the southeast in Hyrule, contains a letter that tells you to bring Premium Milk to a guy on Death Mountain. You get the bottle afterwards.
- Found in the Lorule version of your house, bomb the back of the house and enter from there.
- Received as a reward for throwing 3000 rupees into the fairy fountain in Lorule
And some additional text here, so you can't tell the number of bottles from the length of the spoiler alone.
Wouldn't want to spoil that, would I now?
Ok, I'm very close to finally giving in and buying a 3DS, I didn't like phantom hourglass that much and then skipped Spirit Tracks, however I loved A Link to the Past back in the day and Twilight Princess was also awesome. So will a link between worlds click for me? Is it enough reason to buy a 3ds?
And a little more OT is it worth to buy the XL instead of the regular 3ds?
And a little more OT is it worth to buy the XL instead of the regular 3ds?
bagandscalpel
Member
That particular location is incorrect.
It's actually obtained
paying 3000 rupees to the Rupee Fairy next to the bomb flower store in Lorule.
I didn't like Phantom Hourglass, hated Spirit Tracks, loved A Link to the Past, I absolutely love this game, I think you'll like this.
The XL seems like quite an improvement to me, but I only own the original one.
Thank you, fixed it.
It only kills everything.
gamergirly
Member
Something that is seriously pissing me off with this non-linear dungeon stuff:
WTF??? I could've used that MUCH EARLIER in the game!!!
I get a Blue Tunic halving the damage like at Dungeon 8 - Swamp Palace for me.
WTF??? I could've used that MUCH EARLIER in the game!!!
exactly what i needed to hear, off to ebay to der if i can get a good offer on the xl
thanks!HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
And people wanted Hero accessible from the beginning.
Ah, that's right, three-heart run. You're right.
WAR recon zero
Banned
hey guys.
i am about to buy a download code for this. will a code for USA work in a Canada eshop 3ds?
i am about to buy a download code for this. will a code for USA work in a Canada eshop 3ds?
So can anybody think of a good way to allow for open-ended dungeon progression without the use of the rental system?
I don't hate the rental system. I like what it allows us to do, and how it leads to more mechanical diversity in dungeons, but it seems a little inelegant. I've been trying to think of a way, but I'm stuck. Just straight up giving the player all the items, no questions asked, doesn't seem right. Having less reliance on items in dungeons would work, but then the dungeons would be less interesting mechanically.
And even with LBW's rental system, you still have to go through the first 3 dungeons before the open-ended design is actually implemented. Keeping this in mind, perhaps you could use the first 3 dungeons as a way to remove the rental system, but still have items found in dungeons, while keeping the mechanical diversity. Perhaps before you enter the first dungeons, you're given a sword and shield and bow, much like LBW. The first dungeon consists of Arrow mechanics for the first half, but then halfway through you get the hammer and the second half of the dungeon and the boss are arrow and hammer related. Then the second dungeon you get the boomerang really early on and most of the dungeon is boomerang related. And then maybe in that dungeon you have a humanoid boss that uses the tornado rod against you. Once you defeat it you get that item as well. Then the third dungeon can do something along these lines to give you the final items. Then after that you have all the items and the open-ended design kicks in. And then hopefully in this imaginary game, because the game knows you have every item, items see fairly equal use and dungeons can exploit more than one at a time.
It's more elegant, I think, but it still leaves you with 3 dungeons you have to get through before the game opens up. I can't think of an elegant solution that allows the open-ended design to be present from the very beginning.
I don't hate the rental system. I like what it allows us to do, and how it leads to more mechanical diversity in dungeons, but it seems a little inelegant. I've been trying to think of a way, but I'm stuck. Just straight up giving the player all the items, no questions asked, doesn't seem right. Having less reliance on items in dungeons would work, but then the dungeons would be less interesting mechanically.
And even with LBW's rental system, you still have to go through the first 3 dungeons before the open-ended design is actually implemented. Keeping this in mind, perhaps you could use the first 3 dungeons as a way to remove the rental system, but still have items found in dungeons, while keeping the mechanical diversity. Perhaps before you enter the first dungeons, you're given a sword and shield and bow, much like LBW. The first dungeon consists of Arrow mechanics for the first half, but then halfway through you get the hammer and the second half of the dungeon and the boss are arrow and hammer related. Then the second dungeon you get the boomerang really early on and most of the dungeon is boomerang related. And then maybe in that dungeon you have a humanoid boss that uses the tornado rod against you. Once you defeat it you get that item as well. Then the third dungeon can do something along these lines to give you the final items. Then after that you have all the items and the open-ended design kicks in. And then hopefully in this imaginary game, because the game knows you have every item, items see fairly equal use and dungeons can exploit more than one at a time.
It's more elegant, I think, but it still leaves you with 3 dungeons you have to get through before the game opens up. I can't think of an elegant solution that allows the open-ended design to be present from the very beginning.
gamergirly
Member
I've been thinking about this too. Instead of having so many dungeons open at one time, it can just be fixed with linear dungeons. 1st/2nd dungeon linear, 3/4/5/ non-linear, 6th dungeon linear, 7/8/9 non-linear, 10/11?? final dungeon. One of the biggest problems has been that too many dungeons have been available at one time.
Also, do we really need a rental system? There can be a mix of major items outside dungeons and inside dungeons. That way you can't enter some of the non-linear dungeons unless you have that item. This will force exploration inside of Hyrule/Other world for the player. Others, you can find major items inside of the dungeon like we have in ALBW (i.e. weapon upgrades). Just have it where you have to "earn" major items either through coming up with enough Rupees or through exploration in the overworld.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I really didn't notice any more variety in dungeons to be honest. You still had a specific dungeon for each weapon. And any variety inside a dungeon was quickly pointed out by the pillars with the intended weapon icons on them. So it wasn't really a significant change from previous games.
Also, having the freedom to do the dungeons in any order didn't seem to improve my enjoyment of the game. Instead, it made the exploration feel a tad more tedious. Like I had no real feeling for what to do next. I was just wandering around a big map. That's how my own experience was at least. Not that that is bad.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
2 questions :
1 - is there a way to catch fairies in bottles ? I tried it the old way (assign a bottle to a button, in the previous TLOZ you'd use it to catch them) but to no avail.
2 - How do you beat the sand dungeon boss ? I think I'm doing something wrong but I can't seem to beat it.
Thanks !
1 - is there a way to catch fairies in bottles ? I tried it the old way (assign a bottle to a button, in the previous TLOZ you'd use it to catch them) but to no avail.
2 - How do you beat the sand dungeon boss ? I think I'm doing something wrong but I can't seem to beat it.
Thanks !
1. You need to use a net, this is actually the old attp way to do it. The "just use the bottle" was introduced by oot.
2. Use the rod to form a bridge to its position, then just hit him with your sword. When you see he is charging an attack move around so he cant aim towards you. Punish the move with more hits from your sword.
I'm speaking only of mechanical diversity. In that, the items themselves seem to get more use than they did in previous Zeldas. And what you do with them seems to be more unique and interesting than many other Zeldas. The dungeons themselves may not be any more diverse
Water dungeon still uses the tired rising and lowering levels mechanic. Yawn.
Using sand pillars to navigate a dungeon, pop enemies out of the ground, lift up statues, allow boulders to cross gaps, etc. Using the ice rod to keep a seesaw bridge from tilting or to quickly navigate a lava pit while enemies are trying to attack you. Using the hookshot to pull rafts across water, or to hookshot onto a wall so you can use the wall-walking mechanic. Using the wind rod to carry you across gaps or to reach moving platforms above you. Using the hammer to pound springs into the ground that will pop you up.
Certain items in LBW didn't get enough use, like the boomerang, but the items that did seemed to get more use and more varied use than previous Zelda games.
1 - Use the net (took me a while to figure out, too. Never played ALttP)
2 - Create paths with the sand staff and attack it from them
Goddamn. I don't think I've ever been there (underlined) for some odd reason lol
Exactly why I've been saying it was absolutely the right call to not have it available from the get go. Let everyone have a different experience and then learn in the first playthrough how to best go about things in Hero Mode.
How far did you make it so far? I'm playing Hero Mode myself right now (without constraints), but I can see how easy it is to accidentally get hit by a random enemy.
Stupid regular sword knights are messing me up. It's so easy to accidentally get hit by them because I'm stupid and forget to use my bow.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
The bow becomes so valuable; it actually saved me in my first Lorule boss.
Really? That was one of the few bosses I killed without getting hit.
Figuring out the pattern becomes a bit more difficult when you know you can't take one.
bagandscalpel
Member
He really would have been more threatening if he or his clones didn't fumble their attacks as soon as they got hit.
Just look at the staff to get him for the first time or when you lose sight of him and follow how he moves on the wall after that. He shouldn't even be able to attack you much, if you're close to him when he comes out.
Green Mamba
Member
No. Have you gotten anything special in there yet? Every Lorule dungeon has one special item in it. There is something in the Ice Ruins, but no, that is not it.
Just tell me this. If I've already beaten all 8 dungeons and am going to the castle, have I already missed the red tunic?
Green Mamba, I got the special item, yes.
The scroll.
Green Mamba
Member
No.
Last q.
I'm missing one quarter heart piece. Is there one in the end game area or do I need to comb the overworld?